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#61 Optimus Prime

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:32 PM

Abyss;358802 said:

In principal, i want to agree with you.

But then, well, Whiskeyjack, Brys, Toc, hell, Bellurdan frikkin Skullcrusher just reappeared - ANYTHING is possible.

- Abyss, loves it when death is only an inconvenience...

You have a point, Mr. Meow.

Didn't see the Bellurdan=The Dying God...that bit still confuses me!

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#62 caladanbrood

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:45 PM

Well, it's not actually Bellurdan. Just part of him, as far as I could work out. A bit that got left out of Silverfox.

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#63 Sir Bob

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:57 PM

Abyss;358802 said:

But then, well, Whiskeyjack, Brys, Toc, hell, Bellurdan frikkin Skullcrusher just reappeared - ANYTHING is possible.

SNAP thats why i asked the question in the first place, glad im not the only one thinking like this

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#64 Illuyankas

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:58 PM

The rubbish parts of him. It's why the Dying God's called Failurdan.

Also, Salad was useless as a High Priestess.

Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.

#65 Abyss

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:09 PM

Illuyankas;358836 said:

...Also, Salad was useless as a High Priestess.

best deliberate name error in ages. have rep. (as soon as i'm allowed to pass some out again)

But it wasn't exactly her fault her god was a complete wuss basically good only for hugs and introspective naval gazing.

Tho as a Child of Dead Seed she was a dissapointment. It's like there's no benefit to being conceived by.... oh.... nevermind, this is just gross and pointless....

- Abyss, ..Salad! heehee.....

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#66 kalmavet7

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:13 PM

i think in this cruel malazan world we need a god of hugs. thus itchristvian serves a purpose

#67 Leanoric

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:07 AM

Tenaka Khan;358766 said:

One thought that intrigues me about the freed denizens of Dragnipur is that Hood is also among them. Does one just resign from being the Lord of Death? He seems to think so.

Oh, another thought pops up. Shouldn't the captured souls in Dragnipur - and they were only there in spirit so to say as their bodies got chopped to pieces before ending up in the dreary place in the first place - end up wherever the dead go now after Hood retired?

Just throwing it out there, dunno if this makes much sense, did not get much sleep lately...

Well, maybe that's the favour that Hood asked Paran for - release me from being Lord of Death. Just a possibility.

As for the souls being released from Dragnipur - will the dead still be dead? Presumably for high powered beings like Draconus (and Apsalar and Hood?) death is merely an inconvenience. For more regular people... who knows. SE *did* say that we would not be seeing Whiskeyjack again in the series in any physical form. This, of course, left it open for his ghostly form in Dragnipur to appear. But this leaves 3 options:

a) SE was lying. (you could argue he did this about the Hounds of Light, too, though...)

Whiskeyjack and everyone else will be expelled from Dragnipur and happy and alive. But we just won't happen to meet Whiskeyjack again in the books. Seems a little unlikely... (unless ICE will pick him up and SE never intended his comments to apply to ICE?)
c) Their spirits are released but, well, no bodies. Still dead. Sorry. Thanks for playing.

no wait, here's a fourth option:

d) Being released from Dragnipur only applies to those who were slain by Dragnipur. Other people who just happened to wander in (ie. Hood's army), well they are still dead.

In many ways c seems most likely as otherwise a whole mess of people would be being released. Pearl, Ditch, the mad artist guy, and everyone else Rake has ever killed. If the resurrection also applies to Hood's army, then almost everyone who ever died suddenly coming back to life? Well, maybe lots of them got permanently destroyed by chaos, but still...

Anyway, I think the resurrection from Dragnipur probably only applies to those powerful enough to hold their souls together and go find a new body. Powerful ascendants and gods, in other words. Just my theory

#68 matnor

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:04 PM

I've got to say I still don't understand why Dassem was fighting Rake, to me it seems he is intent on winning the fight and I cannot see any reason for him to do that. Anyone that cares to explain this to me?

#69 kalmavet7

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:17 PM

matnor;359275 said:

I'll give it a go, keeping in mind that he obviously wants Hood, not Rake:

A. it could be as simple as his aspect being Tragedy. For this most tragic of deaths it just had to be the Lord of Tragedy.

B. it might have something to do w/ whatever Cotillion told him in that last meeting

C. Karsa says he was "cheated" when Rake allowed Dassem to kill him--cheated out of a fair fight from Karsa's view. Perhaps also cheated out of what he really wanted, which was to lose so he'd be in the sword w/ Hood. Rake, of course, managed to end the fight precisely how he wanted.

as for why the allied powers wanted it to be Dassem fighting Rake I believe it's because Dassem is both confident enough to face Rake w/o flinching and yet not a threat to take the sword. I commented on this in a different thread. Basically, not just anyone is gonna challenge Rake, and ppl like Kallor cannot be trusted. Dassem is perfect for the plan in that sense. Perhaps Rake also wanted to lose to a worth opponent or something.

#70 kalmavet7

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:22 PM

Leanoric;359033 said:

i think that is part of the favor he asked for...released from one role and into another--Ice(?)

good work outlining the possibilities (inc rep-1 pt!! Edit: oops, not allowed, guess you'll have to wait, haha). I also lean towards only those powers strong enough to keep it all together will re-appear. Hood, Draconus, etc.

I'm wondering if Apsalar is a special case after she snapped the chains and was told to "go" iirc. (wish i had my book) Maybe she won't need a new body.

I thikn the army that wandered in simply stays dead, except for WJ since he does have worshipers and the BB ascension. that said, he won't be back in the flesh

#71 Sir Bob

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:56 PM

oh oh oh oh i got another one-
is orfrantl(sp) dead or just hurt i know kallor said something like "seems to a day for killing tiste" but it seemed a bit lame for a powerfull andii/soletaken to be killed by one sword stroke even if it was kallor.

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#72 Illuyankas

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:15 AM

Ah, another question I got to ask Steve in person. Orfantal is toast. Seriously, utterly and completely dead. A corpse. Sorry.

#73 Raymond Luxury Yacht

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:16 AM

Kind of a weak way to go out. Dragons are easy to kill sometimes.

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#74 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:18 AM

A sword through the throat drastically decreases one's mortality rate.

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:22 AM

But a dragon talon through one's body does not.

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#76 Illuyankas

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:25 AM

Arteries, old bean.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:26 AM

Evidently Kallor is more efficacious than we thought.

#78 caladanbrood

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:28 AM

Did we think he wasn't??:confused:

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:29 AM

It does follow a trend with SE where sometimes frighteningly powerful characters get taken out very easily. Not complaining, just noticing. It's weird when a dragon ca nget owned by one sword blow, but an entire tirbe of T'lan Imass can't kill a single Jaghut child, instead having to settle for pinning it under a rock. Just saying there's some inconsistencies with killing people.

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