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In Topic: Reading at t'moment?
Today, 04:07 AM
Azath Vitr (D, on 25 August 2025 - 10:21 AM, said:Abyss, on 25 August 2025 - 05:40 AM, said:my teeth itch every time time narrator uses 'leaped' and 'dived' instead of 'leapt' and 'dove'
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The original past tense of dive is dived; dove developed as an alternate form in the 1800s, probably by analogy with drive and drove. Dove is now more common in English as spoken in North America ("We dove right in"), while dived remains the preferred form elsewhere. As for the past participle form, dived as in "We're not hesitating; we have dived right in," is more common everywhere than dove.
Merriam Webster - quotation: The Language Nerds | Facebook
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However, it seems that the dived-dove distinction used to be something of a dialect marker in America. E. Bagby Atwood's 1953 study A Survey of Verb Forms in the Eastern United States found that dove was chiefly Northeastern, used as the dominant form in New England, Upstate New York, and the Northeast corridor as far south as Wilmington, Delaware. In Central Pennsylvania, northeast Maryland, lowland areas of South Carolina, and a few other pockets, dived and dove were relatively interchangeable. Elsewhere in the Eastern US, presumably, dived was typical, along with more unusual forms like div and duv.*
So what's happened since then? Well, I would hazard to guess that weird, wonderful old dialect forms like "div" and "duv" have waned significantly. But speaking purely from impression, it seems that "dove" has increased exponentially in the sixty years since Atwood's study.
[...] "dived" is almost certainly used by Americans in compounds such as "scuba dived," "sky dived," and "nose dived," (as opposed to the bizarre-sounding "scuba dove," "sky dove," and "nose dove"), which again, would almost certainly make American "dived" usage difficult to assess.
Dived vs. Dove in American Dialects | Dialect Blog
To me, "dived" sounds better and more poetic. That "d" at the end makes it sound a bit like what it represents. Granted, "dove" sounds more French.
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Both [leapt and leaped] are old, and leaped was more common in all varieties of English until about a century ago, when leapt became more common in British English. Today, both forms are frequently used in American and Canadian publications, while publications from outside North America tend to favor leapt.
This ngram, which graphs the occurrence of leaped and leapt in a large number of British texts published from 1800 to 2019, suggests that leapt's prevalence is a rather new development:
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And the corresponding ngram for American texts suggests that leaped still prevails, but not by much:
Leaped vs. leapt - Grammarist
"Leaped" again sounds more like the act of leaping; "leapt" is more abrupt (and also a bit more French-sounding).
Of course it's fine to be enamored of newfangledness and quasi-Frenchification.
go dived off a cliff, Azath, it still makes my teeth itch. -
In Topic: Twelve Months
Today, 04:05 AM
pat5150, on 26 August 2025 - 02:45 AM, said:About 25% into Twelve Months and it's good. ...
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In Topic: The Comics Thread!
Yesterday, 05:51 AM
Just caught up to the Marvel App's most recent issues of the (new) ULTIMATE LINE.
The X-Men book just isn't my thing on any level. I acknowledge how amazing Peach Momoko is, but neither her art nor her writing are what I want from my comics. I skim just to track the book in the wider storyline.
The 'Ultimates' is fine... it's yet another Avengers dark alt-timeline thing we've seen many many times before, and it works well enough.
Spider-Man... i phase in and out of Spidey fandom, usually just long enough for a given storyline. I did not love the origin they worked with here, but the rest of it, his family, the Harry Osborn connection, the Kingpin and lieutenants... all are being very well written (and excellent art) and in striking contrast to the Ultimates, i'm very engaged.
Black Panther... the character isn't that far off from the normal Marvel version, but they gave him a fun supporting cast, and a whole new take on the Wakanda/Virbanium/Africa thing. And again, excellent writing and art. Arguably the storyline is advancing too slowly but not bad.
Wolverine... great art, but the 'Wolverine is mindwiped into being a savage murdering assassin' has been done and done and done... the Rasputins as villains are the most interesting part and we haven't seen much of them. Mid, overall.
The whole thing works as an overall read. Part of me wishes i had waited longer bcs now i have to wait for enough floppies in the App to keep reading, alas. -
In Topic: Reading at t'moment?
Yesterday, 05:40 AM
Abyss, on 19 August 2025 - 04:22 AM, said:...now back to The 13th Paladin, bk 7 THE ETERNAL EMPIRE, which, in case you were wondering, in no way resembles some white dude's samurai movie based thinly veiled take on Japan.
Snark aside I'm still enjoying this extended run of fairly 'basic' fantasy, and to the author's credit with bk 7, Just Finished, he managed to surprise me a handful of times, take a few dark turns i did not think he had the guts to go for, generate some genuine threat for the supporting cast, write an excellent finale battle, and continue a long game storyline w a developing baddie who is becoming interesting. The supporting cast carry the series at times, and while they mostly started out as archetypes and caricatures, they've developed some depth, evolved a bit, and made the story richer. There's a dwarf character in particular who steals every scene he's in. It's not Malazan, it will never be Malazan, it's not trying to be Malazan, but there's a Prydain/Belgariad/Riftwar feel to this that, while not as effective as quickly as those works were, has drawn me in and kept me around (even if my teeth itch every time time narrator uses 'leaped' and 'dived' instead of 'leapt' and 'dove').
On to bk 8, FATHER OF THE MOUNTAIN. We're going to the Dwarven kingdom, i admit i'm kind of psyched. -
In Topic: A long lost soul needs your recommendations
19 August 2025 - 04:24 AM
dktorode, on 18 August 2025 - 11:29 AM, said:Abyss, on 18 August 2025 - 04:28 AM, said:dktorode, on 14 August 2025 - 12:09 PM, said:Hey hey guys and gals long time no see... so its been what.... 4-5 years?
Life kinda took me away from reading for a good while there, it all started with a dead kindle culminating into an unhealthy PS4 obsession (hey, don't judge me)
Judging you SO MUCH JUDGING
YOU ARE BEING JUDGED
BOTH HARSHLY AND WITH
GREAAAAAAAT JUDGMENT
Worth it tho.
Think of all the good catching up i have now.
SO MUCH JUDGMENTING SO SOOOOOO MUCH
dktorode, on 18 August 2025 - 11:34 AM, said:Abyss, on 18 August 2025 - 04:28 AM, said:
Cheers for this
You're judgmentally welcome.
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