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In Topic: Israel and Iran
31 July 2026 - 04:49 PM
Real talk - what could NATO possibly do? -
In Topic: Israel and Iran
30 July 2026 - 06:54 PM
QuickTidal, on 30 July 2026 - 05:52 PM, said:
Abyss, on 30 July 2026 - 05:44 PM, said:Escalate is a problem because it didn't work in Iraq or Afghanistan. They 'won', then left declaring hollow empty fooling absolutely no one 'victory!'. They can't raze Iran down to scorched earth, the rest of the world including Saudi and other oil rich Middle-eastern allies won't stand for it.
It's actually simpler than this. Iran is not take-able from an army standpoint as they would need a million soldiers to even try considering the terrain and the size. Iran is the size of like all of continental Europe. This is part of the reason no US president till now was dumb enough to get into this. So there's no options to bomb them more without basically asking for retaliation on all US military bases in the region, and ground troops is a non-starter...if people thought mothers were upset to see their sons die in Vietnam, that was a cakewalk compared to this.
The BEST bet was ALWAYS to talk and have Iran at the JCPOA table like it was with Obama...full access for the globally recognized group of all nuclear dealings in Iran to make sure nothing untoward was occurring. Like none of this was a fucking problem before Trump...the progress made during Obama's tenure was the most there had been since the 70's...gone because a narcissist could not stomach that Obama achieved anything, and he needed a distraction war for his other legal problems.
Now that you mention it, he could conceivably make massive concessions, possibly in secret, get Iran back to the table and get the same deal Obama had but pronounce it massively superior and better for everybody and his biggest triumph yet as president. His usual suckers would buy it, the rest of the world would roll eyes and move on.
Irony, the biggest impediment to that is Iran doesn't care about its people and has realized they just need to hold the line and let trump be trump. And if they do sit down to the table, Netanyahu will probably bomb somebody and ruin it anyways. -
In Topic: Whats making you happy right now
30 July 2026 - 05:50 PM
as a general note further to the above excision, this is the 'Whats making you happy right now' thread, can we try to stay on topic pls. -
In Topic: Israel and Iran
30 July 2026 - 05:44 PM
Cause, on 30 July 2026 - 02:00 PM, said:I have lead no armies to victories but the options in a war seem somewhat self evident. Fight, negotiate, Win, Lose.
How is America letting Trump dictate a war based on his feelings of the day, tweets and poll numbers. I have been making fun of him but now it's actually ridiculous. Peace in the morning and bombing in the evening every day for a week now.
Either escalate or backdown. Formulate a strategy and execute.
My $0.02, sadly, America's best bet is for Trump to low-ball continue this til he's gone and a new government can blame everything on Trump and exit.
Escalate is a problem because it didn't work in Iraq or Afghanistan. They 'won', then left declaring hollow empty fooling absolutely no one 'victory!'. They can't raze Iran down to scorched earth, the rest of the world including Saudi and other oil rich Middle-eastern allies won't stand for it. They can't maintain control of the Strait without massive commitment of resources and lives and likely resulting loss over something American cannot 'own' or hold.
Back down is out of the question for Trump. There is no version of that where he can leave Iran in control of the Strait. Even among his most idiot base a retreat will lose him support.
And negotiation is a fucking joke so far, on all sides.
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30 July 2026 - 05:33 PM
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