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  1. In Topic: The USA politics thread -

    16 November 2020 - 05:38 PM

    That flag dates back to the first American Revolution. It has a bajillion meanings.

    So it can mean anything you want.
  2. In Topic: The USA politics thread -

    09 November 2020 - 03:46 AM

    View PostHoosierDaddy, on 09 November 2020 - 02:33 AM, said:

    View PostGorefest, on 08 November 2020 - 10:16 PM, said:

    View PostSlow Ben, on 08 November 2020 - 09:00 PM, said:

    Rampant unchecked SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    This isn't directly at BK. Just the usual crazy shit I'm hearing around me.

    Apparently we'll be Venezuela within 6 months.



    Genuine question: why do so many Americans hate the concept of socialism? It isnt the same as communism. Socialism basically means looking after your fellow countrymen who are worse off than you are. Is that really such a horrendous distopian concept for Americans?


    A variety of reasons is of course the true answer. Some have been touched upon by Terez, SB, and others. Primarily what was identified is the... ignorance... on the topic.

    1. Ignorance. Whether it is willful ignorance or innocent ignorance, some came be laid to rest in the Cold War and socialism and it's twisted relative Soviet Communism. Just as Nazi'ism has the word "socialist" in its name, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has an irreparable link in many Americans' minds to western socialism as it is currently practiced. From there you have North Korea, China, Cuba etc. and the era of Cold War politics that still wholly stains the cloth of what most Americans think of as "Socialism." They hear that word and think Communism. Not Medicare or the NHS, Medicaid, Social Security heere in the US. They think of tyrannical communism and "enemies of the United States". A lot of that is ignorance.

    2. American Exceptionalism. Willful or not, that ignorance is bolstered by the grand idea of American Exceptionalism. You all might need each other but America has, can, and will stand alone if necessary and be just fine in doing so. Just as the USA can stand alone, we as individuals can stand alone as well. We are each exceptional individuals who have the world at our fingertips if we just reach hard enough. Work hard enough. Try hard enough. If we don't get it we obviously didn't try hard enough yet! Socialism is for the weak. American individualism tells us that we can do it on our own! And, if we can't, we definitely not should be proud about relying on one another, but rather hide it away in the attic and not mention it in public.

    3. Propoganda! Communism has failed everywhere they've tried it! (Refer back to #1 please, in America Communism = Socialism.) We haven't perfected capitalism yet, and that's the route of why there are so many struggles. The free market will cure everything! (See #2, please.)

    4. Greed. This country is bought and paid for on such a fundamental level it is incredible. The US is so far intertwined with corporate interests that it is hard to tell sometimes where there influence is not the most heavy handed in American politics. And, thanks to #1 and #2, #3 can be used ever so more effectively. And there is tons and tons of money to do #3 with because money rules everything and everybody is chasing that paper.



    View PostGwynn ap Nudd, on 09 November 2020 - 02:59 AM, said:

    Part of the reason is also the right wing media bubble. Fox News, One America, Rush Limbaugh, etc. will all purposefully conflate socialism with communism. You could say that is ignorance on the part of viewers/listeners, but I doubt the label would be as effective without the constant magnification from right wing media.


    This is 4 as the motive with 3 as its means of doing so relying on #1 and #2 to make #3 believable.
  3. In Topic: The USA politics thread -

    09 November 2020 - 02:33 AM

    View PostGorefest, on 08 November 2020 - 10:16 PM, said:

    View PostSlow Ben, on 08 November 2020 - 09:00 PM, said:

    Rampant unchecked SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    This isn't directly at BK. Just the usual crazy shit I'm hearing around me.

    Apparently we'll be Venezuela within 6 months.



    Genuine question: why do so many Americans hate the concept of socialism? It isnt the same as communism. Socialism basically means looking after your fellow countrymen who are worse off than you are. Is that really such a horrendous distopian concept for Americans?


    A variety of reasons is of course the true answer. Some have been touched upon by Terez, SB, and others. Primarily what was identified is the... ignorance... on the topic.

    1. Ignorance. Whether it is willful ignorance or innocent ignorance, some came be laid to rest in the Cold War and socialism and it's twisted relative Soviet Communism. Just as Nazi'ism has the word "socialist" in its name, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has an irreparable link in many Americans' minds to western socialism as it is currently practiced. From there you have North Korea, China, Cuba etc. and the era of Cold War politics that still wholly stains the cloth of what most Americans think of as "Socialism." They hear that word and think Communism. Not Medicare or the NHS, Medicaid, Social Security heere in the US. They think of tyrannical communism and "enemies of the United States". A lot of that is ignorance.

    2. American Exceptionalism. Willful or not, that ignorance is bolstered by the grand idea of American Exceptionalism. You all might need each other but America has, can, and will stand alone if necessary and be just fine in doing so. Just as the USA can stand alone, we as individuals can stand alone as well. We are each exceptional individuals who have the world at our fingertips if we just reach hard enough. Work hard enough. Try hard enough. If we don't get it we obviously didn't try hard enough yet! Socialism is for the weak. American individualism tells us that we can do it on our own! And, if we can't, we definitely not should be proud about relying on one another, but rather hide it away in the attic and not mention it in public.

    3. Propoganda! Communism has failed everywhere they've tried it! (Refer back to #1 please, in America Communism = Socialism.) We haven't perfected capitalism yet, and that's the route of why there are so many struggles. The free market will cure everything! (See #2, please.)

    4. Greed. This country is bought and paid for on such a fundamental level it is incredible. The US is so far intertwined with corporate interests that it is hard to tell sometimes where there influence is not the most heavy handed in American politics. And, thanks to #1 and #2, #3 can be used ever so more effectively. And there is tons and tons of money to do #3 with because money rules everything and everybody is chasing that paper.
  4. In Topic: The USA politics thread -

    08 November 2020 - 02:23 AM

    Story time:

    I couldn't say my name right for years growing up. Couldn't make the sound of an "r" right. Came out as a "w". Introduced myself the wrong damn way. Had to take speech therapy for it. Got it under control... but it still pops out occasionally and it just kind of happens. I was often made fun of because of it, because of course I couldn't tell I wasn't saying it wrong. But the soft "r" is a pretty common annunciation and so it happened all the time.

    It's so jarring when it comes out today and strikes such a discordant note it immediately brings back that though. Was just having a chat with my brother about it on my drive home. Amusing now, of course. Petrifying then. But hey, I got free chocolate in those lessons during school so at least I had that going for me.

    As for the election: it only goes to further show how much work is yet to be done, but it will be done, and the slow, inexorable grind of perfecting a horribly imperfect union will continue. With both giant leaps forward and tremendous set backs. It is the nature of America.
  5. In Topic: The USA politics thread -

    06 November 2020 - 02:40 AM

    I'm not seeing the same numbers you all are posting. Georgia looks pretty much done with Trump still up 2,000+ votes.... Pennsylvania is edging closer and closer to 99% with Trump still up ~50,000.

    I don't know. I don't think it's going to happen. It'd be too un-2020 like.

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    Tsundoku 

    07 Oct 2020 - 20:01
    40! Dun dun dunnnnn ...
    Make it a good one :)
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    The Incredible Aptorian 

    06 Jul 2020 - 07:57
    "A poor man's idea of a rich man.
    A weak man's idea of a strong man.
    A stupid man's idea of a genius."
    I'm not actually sure where it is from. But I've seen the "poor man's idea of a rich man" quote used about Trump and his gaudy taste more than once.
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    Tsundoku 

    07 Oct 2019 - 19:35
    Enjoy your last year in your 30s
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    Tsundoku 

    08 Oct 2018 - 07:56
    Like last year, except with more boobs and explosions!
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    Tsundoku 

    07 Oct 2017 - 16:52
    Happy birthday you big hunk of Indianan. May you spend it In-Diana (as in WW)
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    Terez 

    02 Feb 2016 - 21:30
    So do you agree to the terms? Cruz wins Alabama, you get my avatar for a month. Cruz doesn't win Alabama, I get your avatar for a month.
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    TheRetiredBridgeburner 

    10 Dec 2015 - 08:51
    Hey, thanks for the comment, there's a new video up now and I'm going to try and do some more today! :)
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    Tsundoku 

    07 Oct 2015 - 20:00
    Happy 35th :)
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    Terez 

    30 Jun 2015 - 07:10
    So when are you going to change the subtitle of the American Politics thread to something about Democalypse 2016?
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    Terez 

    19 Jan 2015 - 11:47
    I have allowed the weather to catch up to me. I still want to come soon though. Email me because this is awkward - terez27 at gmail dot com.
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    Terez 

    28 Nov 2014 - 02:53
    We have corn!
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    Terez 

    27 Nov 2014 - 21:13
    Don't get out much? :D I have driven through Indy a couple of times now; I had to go to IU to scan 3 books when I was up here visiting in the spring. I thought about hitting you up then, but I figured I would get around to it when I moved up here permanently. Less rush. :) Some time soon, when the weather is good.
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    Terez 

    27 Nov 2014 - 20:43
    I am about a half hour north of 74. You're in the capital eh? It's about a 3 hour drive, same as St. Louis. In other words, not too bad. :)
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    Terez 

    27 Nov 2014 - 10:39
    I think I live in your neck of the woods now. We should meet up some time. I don't bite, promise. I live in central IL but I drive to Chicago for French lessons and to St. Louis for cigarettes.
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    worry 

    18 Jun 2014 - 08:58
    One man's journey into the dark heart of clickbait headlines will leave you breathless.
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