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Cyphon, on 11 August 2020 - 08:52 PM, said:

She is literally the 4th most progressive in the senate apparently.

Also, she's going to utterly destroy Pence in the debate...like eviscerate him with words.

Fucks sake. The point is that the variables makes that a very specific situation, and it muddies the waters for barely any real benefit. Other than to say "Surgical masks are 93% effective, but N95s are 95% effective!"....like okay...that's fine. Is it enough to muddy the news with shit about the difference?

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 August 2020 - 07:59 PM, said:

Where the the fuck is this really happening other than the healthcare industry where someone is in your face for 15min or more speaking moistly at you, and all other preventative measures are failing as well?

Or have doctors and surgeons been wearing regular surgical masks for years for no reason? Should they not all have been wearing N95s? You would figure if surgical masks were not so great that hospitals would have outlawed them and demanded the use of N95's across the board, especially during flu season, and on immunocompromised floors, no?

And again, N95's need to be properly fitted to be fully efficacious...no one is doing that except health care workers. Do you think the average Joe knows about that? I doubt it. There is also a very specific way to don and remove the N95 mask...do you think anyone but health care workers are doing that? No.

Wear a fucking mask. These constant articles are doing exactly what Macros said, giving fodder to assholes to not wear one by giving breaks in the chain of "wear a mask" the give to shove a wedge into. It's doing no one any favours.

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 August 2020 - 06:39 PM, said:

Right, but my point is the devil is in the details.

N95's are for close quarters, for long periods, with COVID patients. Who mostly is that going to fall into that category? Health care and frontline workers.

The idea that you're safer with an N95 VS a surgical (the next one down on the list) in a close quarters normal situation (a mall, or restaurant) is only relevant by minor degrees.

Here's a study: https://advances.sci.../sciadv.abd3083

The relevant info here is that an N95 and Surgical (and even cloth ect.) are so close in nature of droplet-spread as to be indistinguishable by the average citizen, compared to no mask at all, with an 80% reduction in the number of actual droplets from speaking.

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Fun extra fact: N95's are a "fitted" piece of PPE. This means that for a true fit, you are to be fitted with them and that is for you individually. Buying N95's in bulk and wearing them isn't the same as being fitted with them as Healthcare workers are (normally) testing that fit.


And in most east Asian countries, regular citizens wear surgical masks, not N95's. So I'm not even sure where you get that.

Slow Ben, on 11 August 2020 - 05:47 PM, said:

I THINK Skunks have a bunch of stuff/warning things they do before they spray. It's why dogs get sprayed because they can't interpret the other signs.

That said, it's good your instincts turned you round and didn't get sprayed. That shit stinks! LOL

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 August 2020 - 06:17 PM, said:

And you assume I didn't read the article.