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  1. In Topic: 2020 Malazan Re-read: Gardens of the Moon

    31 January 2020 - 04:33 AM

    View PostGorefest, on 29 January 2020 - 07:26 PM, said:

    Ah, yes, but nobody is mentioning the Jheleck hostages who are supervised by Tulas and who have the names of the Hounds....seems pretty obvious, surely?

    Unless we assume that Tulas bound them somehow to the Deragoth? To bind their 'dog' nature and make them unable to turn back to their 'human' form?



    Yea I was gonna mention this. I thought this was the most plausible hound origins.
  2. In Topic: 2020 Malazan Re-read: Gardens of the Moon

    22 January 2020 - 05:40 PM

    View PostD, on 22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

    View PostAptorian, on 21 January 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

    The fact that he was once a High-Priest of shadow is interesting.

    I don't really want to know his background or who all his souls are but Delat the man, must have been formidable in his own right one assumes. And somewhat familiar with Kel and Dancer, maybe? At least in their official religious roles? Or was it a rivalry? Quon Tali shadow cults versus 7C? Shit, imagine an Esslemont prequel book where Quick Ben is a character opposing the Malazan invasion of 7C.


    View PostAbyss, on 21 January 2020 - 04:09 PM, said:

    I don't think we've seen anything to suggest involvement with Kellanved and Dancer pre Raraku and the Bridgeburners... tho we don't know about all his souls.

    There's obviously a lot to QB and since the first two KT books multiple peple have raised the suggestion he's descended from an Azathanii.


    The other big info pointing towards Delat being formerly very involved with Kel/Dancer and the Shadow Priesthood that I can remember is Lostara Yil remembering her time spent as a Shadow Dancer in Bidithal's chapter of the Shadow/Rashan Cult/Religion. Delat and Dancer infiltrated that chapter of the cult and assassinated almost everyone, with Delat having gotten in either by impersonating a High Priest or else by *being* a High Priest of the cult.



    I think Delat sexed her.
  3. In Topic: 2020 Malazan Re-read: Gardens of the Moon

    22 January 2020 - 05:39 PM

    View PostD, on 22 January 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

    View PostAbyss, on 21 January 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

    Re Kallor, just passed this prescript to ch 10...



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    Kallor said: "I walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I have commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I have spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?"

    "Yes," said Caladan Brood, "you never learn."

    CONVERSATIONS OF WAR (SECOND IN COMMAND KALLOR SPEAKING WITH WARLORD CALADAN BROOD),
    RECORDED BY OUTRIDER
    HURLOCHEL, 6TH ARMY



    I had utterly forgotten this appeared in GotM (or maybe it didn't in my printing....).


    This is one of the (maybe the only?) bits that oddly appears twice. The very same lines come up again in Memories of Ice.



    It's reported as a piece of history in GotM then actually happens in MoI. I think that's pretty cool considering the whole story is a history of sorts. Beautiful.
  4. In Topic: 2020 Malazan Re-read: Gardens of the Moon

    22 January 2020 - 02:56 PM

    Why did Shadowthrone and The Rope so badly want to kill Oponn in GotM? Just because Oponn likes to fuck with everything and that's their job?

    Also, I assumed Oponn would be far more involved in the entire story. It took many books before I stopped waiting on something significant
  5. In Topic: 2020 Malazan Re-read: Gardens of the Moon

    22 January 2020 - 11:22 AM

    View PostAbyss, on 21 January 2020 - 08:50 PM, said:

    View PostKeysi, on 21 January 2020 - 06:42 PM, said:

    I also note that Brood is referred to in several different ways in this book and throughout the series. Human. Barghast Ascendant. And finally as the Azathani we know and love.


    I put that down to people just not knowing what he actually is.

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    Also, lots of references to Fiddler being a pretty terrible soldier and crappie with a sword in GotM, he seems to be doing pretty well by the end. Fcuks up a Nahruk with a sword if I remember correctly.


    Bad with a sword, yes.
    Pain in the ass probably. Bad soldier, i don't think so tho i see how it might read that way.



    Page 430 of the paperback version I reading, Whiskykack having an inner monologue"To Whiskyjack's mind, Hedge and Fiddler were terrible soldiers"

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