[Werthead]

The Good:

The Comedian, Nite Owl, Dr. Manhattan, Rorschach (especially), the Owlship, the brilliant introduction, the music, the special effects, the changed ending (and only the mechanism is changed, not the actual ending or the last scene), the themes and moral ambivalence and the final shot.


The Meh:

Ozymandias, Silk Spectre. A lot of the secondary character arcs are cut short (Hollis Mason, the people on the street at the end) but confusingly they're still in the movie, presumably to be reinstated in the DVD. In one case (Rorschach's psychologist) I saw other people in the audience getting confused as his previous scene made it appear that Rorschach had killed him.


The Bad:

Nixon's fake nose and chin looked pretty ridiculous. The blood and gore was ludicrously over the top. In 300 it was appropriate to the comic book, whilst here it's wildly overdone. There isn't this much gore in the book, so why is the film almost swimming in it at times? And they got rid of Ozy's two iconic lines at the end (well got rid of one, and changed the other to something far lamer). And that's probably about it.

Overall, decent. I think those who've read the book will appreciate it more than those who haven't, but not to the same scale as say the 1984 version of Dune.

[Illuyankas]

Werthead, on Mar 7 2009, 12:48 AM, said:

The Good:

The Comedian, Nite Owl, Dr. Manhattan, Rorschach (especially), the Owlship, the brilliant introduction, the music, the special effects, the changed ending (and only the mechanism is changed, not the actual ending or the last scene), the themes and moral ambivalence and the final shot.


The Meh:

Ozymandias, Silk Spectre. A lot of the secondary character arcs are cut short (Hollis Mason, the people on the street at the end) but confusingly they're still in the movie, presumably to be reinstated in the DVD. In one case (Rorschach's psychologist) I saw other people in the audience getting confused as his previous scene made it appear that Rorschach had killed him.


The Bad:

Nixon's fake nose and chin looked pretty ridiculous. The blood and gore was ludicrously over the top. In 300 it was appropriate to the comic book, whilst here it's wildly overdone. There isn't this much gore in the book, so why is the film almost swimming in it at times? And they got rid of Ozy's two iconic lines at the end (well got rid of one, and changed the other to something far lamer). And that's probably about it.

Overall, decent. I think those who've read the book will appreciate it more than those who haven't, but not to the same scale as say the 1984 version of Dune.

Wait wait wait.

Spoiler

I'd heard about the comic book villain over Republic serial villain line change, but tell me they kept 35 minutes ago. Tell me they did.

[Werthead]

Count Rugen, on Mar 7 2009, 12:54 AM, said:

Wait wait wait.

Spoiler

I'd heard about the comic book villain over Republic serial villain line change, but tell me they kept 35 minutes ago. Tell me they did.

Brace yourself:

Spoiler

Ozy no longer says, "I did it!" The tone of the scene is sombre, so perhaps him saying quietly, "I did it..." would have been better, but getting rid of the whole line felt lame.

But far worse is what they do to the more famous line. The director decided flashing back 35 minutes would be confusing, so now the destruction of the cities happens at staged intervals, with the destruction of New York happening at the moment he tells Rorschach and Nite Owl what's going on. This obviously makes no sense coming right after his "If there was the slightest chance you could have affected the outcome..." line as at that moment they still could affect the outcome.

What he now says is:

"I set it in motion 35 minutes ago."

It doesn't work as well.

[Illuyankas]

...Well, tits.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Just saw it and loved it. This was my first exposure to watchmen of any kind, so i didn't know what to expect. Brilliant.

[Trotts]

Not yet seen it, hopefully tommorow.


One day, we'll have a Watchman Sat morning cartoon, and it will be this awesome: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

[Sixty]

Just saw this with some friends a couple hours ago (saw it matinee... )

Pretty weird/random, I have to say, but a good movie overall. Damn long, too.

I have one complaint:

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK

thanks.

(by the way, what's the original ending (in the comic)?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Sixty, on Mar 7 2009, 05:15 PM, said:

Just saw this with some friends a couple hours ago (saw it matinee... )

Pretty weird/random, I have to say, but a good movie overall. Damn long, too.

I have one complaint:

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK

thanks.

(by the way, what's the original ending (in the comic)?

Do not answer this question without spoiler tags lest ye perish.

[RodeoRanch]

Just saw it. Very impressive film and adaptation but I didn't care for it.

[Illuyankas]

Sixty, on Mar 8 2009, 01:15 AM, said:

Just saw this with some friends a couple hours ago (saw it matinee... )

Pretty weird/random, I have to say, but a good movie overall. Damn long, too.

I have one complaint:

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK

thanks.

(by the way, what's the original ending (in the comic)?

Don't read if you haven't read the comic or seen the film yet, obviously:

Spoiler

Ozy wanted to fool the world into thinking it had suffered a traumatic loss from an outside and unclearly defined enemy, as to force them to ally against this new threat, so he put the brain of a psychic into an immense monster genetically modified and built to be as alien and disturbing as possible by the best minds and artists on the planet, and then teleported it into New York. The psychic's deathcry (the teleporting system killed everything going through it) matched with the sheer otherness of the beast killed millions in the city, including most of the background and secondary scene-setting characters. Forced to believe that it was an alien intrusion, and unable to determine whether it was an attack or an friendly arrival gone tragically wrong, the world stood down from Armageddon and Ozy's plan succeeded. This, incidentally, happened to be a foe that could potentially be defeated, unlike Dr. Manhattan.

I'm pretty sure it's the fact that

Spoiler

it was a gargantuan cyclopean squid with a vagina for a face

that led them to cut it out of the movie, though.

[Dr Trouble]

ARRRRGH! I so badly want to watch this, but I have dicks for friends and no one will go with me.

And I will not go see a comic book movie by myself. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES!

[Illuyankas]

Aw, what's the matter? Afraid your virginity will grow back?

This post has been edited by Count Rugen: 08 March 2009 - 02:44 AM

[Dr Trouble]

That can happen?!? Why didn't anyone warn me?!

I may go catch the 3pm showing then Count, You 11 fingered bastard.

[Sixty]

Count Rugen, on Mar 7 2009, 08:48 PM, said:

Sixty, on Mar 8 2009, 01:15 AM, said:

Just saw this with some friends a couple hours ago (saw it matinee... )

Pretty weird/random, I have to say, but a good movie overall. Damn long, too.

I have one complaint:

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK

thanks.

(by the way, what's the original ending (in the comic)?

Don't read if you haven't read the comic or seen the film yet, obviously:

Spoiler

Ozy wanted to fool the world into thinking it had suffered a traumatic loss from an outside and unclearly defined enemy, as to force them to ally against this new threat, so he put the brain of a psychic into an immense monster genetically modified and built to be as alien and disturbing as possible by the best minds and artists on the planet, and then teleported it into New York. The psychic's deathcry (the teleporting system killed everything going through it) matched with the sheer otherness of the beast killed millions in the city, including most of the background and secondary scene-setting characters. Forced to believe that it was an alien intrusion, and unable to determine whether it was an attack or an friendly arrival gone tragically wrong, the world stood down from Armageddon and Ozy's plan succeeded. This, incidentally, happened to be a foe that could potentially be defeated, unlike Dr. Manhattan.

I'm pretty sure it's the fact that

Spoiler

it was a gargantuan cyclopean squid with a vagina for a face

that led them to cut it out of the movie, though.

Okay, I definitely liked this movie's ending better.

[Obdigore]

Sixty, on Mar 7 2009, 07:15 PM, said:

Just saw this with some friends a couple hours ago (saw it matinee... )

Pretty weird/random, I have to say, but a good movie overall. Damn long, too.

I have one complaint:

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK

thanks.

(by the way, what's the original ending (in the comic)?

This is about it.

I haven't seen the comics or anything.

TOO MUCH BLUE DICK IS CORRECT.

[Yellow]

It wasn't as good as I expected (the film, I mean, not the blue dick... that was great). A bit too over the top in places, especially with the fight scenes.

Meh, it did ok by the book, so no complaints.

[polishgenius]

Apart from the line-change (and a few other iconic moments being butchered or twisted), my main problem with the ending was this:

Spoiler

Manhattan is American. That's a pretty fucking significant part of the plot, and the whole reason Russia was so close to triggering in the first place. If the Russians had got word that Manhattan demolished Moscow, in that state, they'd have launched- even if Snyder hadn't left New York till last, which he did, pretty much ending any chance that the Russian's first move would be to get on the phone

.


The first two hours were pretty good.

[frookenhauer]

I'm watching this tonight...I'm stoked!

[Aptorian]

This wont be out in Denmark before the 20th. I am annoyed, but I refuse going looking for a crap version on the interweb,

[Rorschach]

I saw it on Friday and thought it was pretty good. Damn violent though.

Made me go straight out and buy the comic which is much better