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#41 User is offline   BeLeG 

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:58 AM

haha no problem mate,I like the title :mad:

well I haven't read RotCG or TtH yet,so my info is not up-to date.To be honest it fits better in my mind thinking Dassem was mortal when he started creating an empire with Kellanved and Dancer but the theory in my previous post isn't completely crazy right?I mean these things could have happened...unless RotCG and TtH are clear on the matter

anyway many people who were not born during the time of the first-human- empire seem to know about Dassem's past and his personal tragedy so I admit it's very unlikely that Dassem is 100.000 years old :p
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 04:45 PM

And if he was, was his daughter 99 978 years old, or did he only get around to shagging in the last century?! Duh duh dun!

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:40 PM

I suggested that his daughter was taken from Hood during the first chaining
She can stay for 99.978 inside the Azath,can't she?
Anyway,there's no real point,it's just the comment about "the first sword reborn" that made me really curious...
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:43 AM

Well, inside the Azath, time stops, doesnt it... So i suppose in theory it could be possible.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 05:29 PM

Lisheo;341457 said:

Well, inside the Azath, time stops, doesnt it... So i suppose in theory it could be possible.


It does?
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 05:45 PM

Yes Thats why
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 06:00 PM

Counter-example: the body of the FA seen at the entrance to Tremorlor in DG had decayed to "a nest of bones and rotted clothing."

Perhaps being in the Azath stops ill-effects, but I don't think it stops time. That's putting it too strongly.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 06:20 PM

DM, that last sentence needs to be spoilered.

EDIT: And a mod/admin/modmin/Moomin? got in there first. Excellent.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 07:32 PM

Yeah, I don't think we fully understand the Azath Houses' effects on time. Sure, we know that Kellanved and Dancer and (I think) the Old Guard got their longevity from the Deadhouse, but we don't know the exact mechanism behind it.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 08:57 PM

Illuyankas;341690 said:

DM, that last sentence needs to be spoilered.

EDIT: And a mod/admin/modmin/Moomin? got in there first. Excellent.


Oh, sorry. I hate doing that. It is hard to remember your answer is a spoiler when the question was already one and you didn't notice that.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:27 PM

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:29 PM

STOP PUTTING POST MOI SPOILERS IN A MOI THREAD
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:52 PM

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:06 PM

View PostBinder of Demons, on 24 October 2007 - 05:41 AM, said:

Dassem fell only about a year before the events in NIGHT OF KNIVES.

Which means it hasn't been too long at all relative to the events in the main Malazan books. Less than 10 years before the events of Gardens of The Moon (and by extension Pannion etc) I'd be reasonably sure.

As to how old Dassem Ultor was before his fall, that, is open to question. And how long had he been in the service of Hood, I don't know.

There is only one Dassem Ultor in Malazan history as far as we know. There have been many "Chainings" throughout their history, but the one referenced above was the most recent. Hope that is relatively clear?


The old guard seemed to be older than they should be, I think their time semi ascending in the deadhouse helped with that... he probably looks about a fit and healthy 40.... but may be like 100 XD
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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:19 PM

View PostVaddon Ra, on 15 April 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

View PostBinder of Demons, on 24 October 2007 - 05:41 AM, said:

Dassem fell only about a year before the events in NIGHT OF KNIVES.

Which means it hasn't been too long at all relative to the events in the main Malazan books. Less than 10 years before the events of Gardens of The Moon (and by extension Pannion etc) I'd be reasonably sure.

As to how old Dassem Ultor was before his fall, that, is open to question. And how long had he been in the service of Hood, I don't know.

There is only one Dassem Ultor in Malazan history as far as we know. There have been many "Chainings" throughout their history, but the one referenced above was the most recent. Hope that is relatively clear?


The old guard seemed to be older than they should be, I think their time semi ascending in the deadhouse helped with that... he probably looks about a fit and healthy 40.... but may be like 100 XD


Well if you look at the prologue of GotM the timeline is the 93rd year of Kellanveds rule. Dassem was one of those who made him emperor, so he is 100+ easily, probably close to 130

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 11:50 AM

I hate to copy ILLY HERE BUT


STOP PUTTING POST MOI SPOILERS IN A MOI THREAD




IF you think something happened after the book that your posting in then don't post it. Easy


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