[Flawed]

Just finishing re reading House of Chains in my run up to Reapers Gale.

I quite like the two characters Loric and Osric. Something about the unfathomable history between the two but the still simple if slightly strained father son relationship.

What i want to know is if Osric was " Lost " within that dream world how did he suddenly come along at the right time to save his son when he was stabbed in the back by that Talon?

Was the whole of Rakaru at that point upon an ancient dream or memory that Osric had been trapped in for some time and subsequently so was the Whirlwind Goddess?

It seems highly likely but slightly fortuitous if so.

I hope to see more of both of these characters and in fact the Liosans if only to see the smarmy goits get theirs. Perhaps a Leg Drop from the top er.... Azath tower would do it?

I digress but its all salvageable because i flexed words in here like fortuitous. I'm not even old! Get me.

Just off to bingo!

All the eights! Two fat Kruppes!

[Dolorous Menhir]

Osric wasn't trapped, he just doesn't care about the outside world and likes being a hermit.

[caladanbrood]

Blood, and the spilling of it, is seemingly the most powerful single thing in the Malazan universe. Especially among Ascendants who've been around that long. Enough to jolt him back to his senses, anyway.

[Flawed]

8 points go to RUSSIA!

Well.

Enough said.

Blood seems to be by what binds. The whole indifferent thing of Osric to his son is believable but its convienient he was there when mattered no?

Terry is pi$$ed. Apparantly serbia is winning?

Sorry Spelling

[Flawed]

Also. Who was Lorics mum for him not to be a Soletaken Dragon also?

Bit of a bummer that eh

[Thelomen Toblerone]

I'd always assumed that Mother Dark was his mummy- after all, arent all the Tiste children of MD, even the Liosan? And, as L'oric is Liosan, I just assumed....

Although now you mention it, if it is MD then the lack of a soletaken form for L'oric seems suspicious, especially as her other kids like Silchas, Anomander et al are dragon soletaken.

[caladanbrood]

"Children of Mother Dark" doesn't mean they're all her actual children, TT. That would be silly

[Illuyankas]

Was Osserc a Soletaken when L'oric was born? Would he even want to be one?

[Thelomen Toblerone]

caladanbrood;184563 said:

"Children of Mother Dark" doesn't mean they're all her actual children, TT. That would be silly

Lol oh yeah. Scarily thats the first time that glaringly obvious fact has actually occured to me.

Cheers Broody. Id rep you again but apparently I need to spread it around. Makes me feel like a cheap whore. Especially while Im wearing these clothes.

[Flawed]

I've read up to Bonehunters and cant remember any other mentionanasisation about Loric and Osric. But that isn't actually saying much as I'm having to re read all of them again because I've just forgotten the lot.

Its an age thing. Like making up new words.

I mention the whole soletaken / Dragon thing because even as a basic isn't Osric within the Draconian family tree?

Now I'm with Hetan on this. Id be like, " WHERE THE FUDGE ARE MY WINGS DADDY AND ILL PUT THE RUBBISH OUT TOMORROW FOR THE LOVE OF ACTUAL GOD STOP GOING ON! " ( All said in the most whiny voice imaginable, head thrown back and foot stamps a plenty. All the while looking for the nearest object to luss at the wall )

Luss? I'm doing it again.

[Aptorian]

Well most likely L'orics mom isn't all that powerfull, seeing as L'oric is probably the weakest born ascendant we've seen so far.

[Flawed]

Its probably one of the things we will never find out.

Fairly annoying like stubbing your toe.

[SiriusL]

How does one get to be Draconian? I know...I know...spoilers:

Spoiler

We know from the MT Prologue that Anomander, Ruin, and Scabandari all drank from Tiam's blood at some point way back when. Shouldn't we assume the same for Osserc? And, if so, why would draconian soltakenness be hereditary?

I think maybe this is what Illuyankas was trying suggest.

[caladanbrood]

Well, urm... it is. Hereditary, that is. But not always.

Impossible to say why without spoilers from Midnight Tides though.

[Flawed]

Im on a re read of Midnight tides now so ill guess i will RAFO. I need a bigger brain i think.

You lot always seem to have it all on tap.

Always a good diversion though. The misses is watching Beastenders so i get to escape anyway i can.

[Omras Ghum]

I seem to remember that Lorics powers were described as being more subtle and passive - like healing and preserving and stuff... perhaps his mother is the QoD?

Omras, just guessing once again

[Flawed]

Now there speculation. A high possibility given their previous er friendship.

Good call!

[Thelomen Toblerone]

Best suggestion I've heard yet, L'oric definitely seems to be of the QoD mould, more pensieve and less violent/aggressive.

[Aptorian]

There would also be the drama of the relationship between the QoD and Osserc. Wasn't QoD once a traveling partner of Rake? A rival of Osserc. Or did Rake, Osserc and QoD all travel around together back when she was mortal?

I remember there being two stories of Rakes travels.

Well it would be cool if Osserc stole Rakes woman and sheboinged her