[Aptorian]

Dancer;301085 said:

Btw

SPOILER FOR FIRST CHAPTER IN THE EXERCEPT, MAINLY FOR BROOD.

Spoiler

Greymane wasn't one of the original Avowed according to Kyle. So he was most likely not in the original group, unless it's been a closely kept secret which is entirely rational but slightly less likely considering

Spoiler

About Greymane, did you mean Crimson Guard and not Avowed?

Does this mean that the Prince can make more avowed at random? It wasn't just a one time thing? That would be a scary prospect.

I mean I can understand some kind of heavy duty powerfull ritual that made them. But if the Prince can make an avowed when needed, a person that is practically ascended, that speaks of a lot of power.

That or he's in possession of some magical tool

[Dancer+]

Aptorian;301235 said:

Spoiler

About Greymane, did you mean Crimson Guard and not Avowed?

Does this mean that the Prince can make more avowed at random? It wasn't just a one time thing? That would be a scary prospect.

I mean I can understand some kind of heavy duty powerfull ritual that made them. But if the Prince can make an avowed when needed, a person that is practically ascended, that speaks of a lot of power.

That or he's in possession of some magical tool

Spoiler

I meant the Avowed, he wasn't one of the members who was part of the original/only vow. I was mainly replying to Brood as we had a conversation about the possibilities of Greymane being a turncoat since the beginning (99 years ago), I then read the prologue and first chapter and sought to clarify matters.

I'm pretty sure they can't make any more Avowed. Greymane is part of the Crimson Guard certainly, as a lieutenant. He's not long been part of the Guard according to Kyle, Kyle mentions that he better be as good as he's rumoured to be and refers to him as Stonewielder.

@Pat: Yeah, where's our ARCs

[Quick~]

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Spoiler

Greymane is part of the Crimson Guard certainly, as a lieutenant. He's not long been part of the Guard according to Kyle, Kyle mentions that he better be as good as he's rumoured to be and refers to him as Stonewielder.

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Stoneweilder? Guess that means the potential working title for the Korelri book cam was considering was a direct reference to Greymane then

[caladanbrood]

Dancer;301502 said:

Spoiler

I meant the Avowed, he wasn't one of the members who was part of the original/only vow. I was mainly replying to Brood as we had a conversation about the possibilities of Greymane being a turncoat since the beginning (99 years ago), I then read the prologue and first chapter and sought to clarify matters.

I'm pretty sure they can't make any more Avowed. Greymane is part of the Crimson Guard certainly, as a lieutenant. He's not long been part of the Guard according to Kyle, Kyle mentions that he better be as good as he's rumoured to be and refers to him as Stonewielder.

@Pat: Yeah, where's our ARCs

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It said he took a vow, even if not neccessarily one of the Avowed per se, he's certainly been eith them for a long time.

[Imperial Historian]

i just read it and

Spoiler

I got the distinct impression that he hadn't been with them for too long and had joined them after his betrayals of the koreli and malazans, which suggests he isn't one of the original avowed, though his ability had got him promoted to the level just below them (presumably like jorrick sharplance in GotM who seemed to be pretty high up). What does everyone think of the mention along the lines the 20 remaining avowed, was this referring to just the original avowed and there's some other group or are there really only 20 left?

[Wry]

Guy's there's a whole other thread for discussing the prologue/first chapter and it's spoilers... Do you have to do it here?

Some of us are desperately trying to avoid spoilers.

[pat5150]

For those who were wondering about the size of the book, the ARC of RotCG weighs in at 741 pages. . .

Patrick

[Mentalist]

Is that Trade Paperback format?
That'd make it almost as big as RG--and the mmpb will be on par with Bonehunters.


SWEET!!!!

[pat5150]

That's the PS Publishing advance reading copy. Don't know what font size Bantam Press will use, so it's hard to say how it will compare. Should be as long as GotM at least...

Patrick

[Optimus Prime]

Was there really any doubt it would at least rival SE's full length novels? ICE isn't going to screw us like that

[vaiski]

Latest PS Publishing Bulletin says that 'we're expecting finished copies of this monumental two-book deluxe slipcased set any day now'. Also that advance sales account for 200 copies atm.

[voland]

vaiski;303120 said:

Latest PS Publishing Bulletin says that 'we're expecting finished copies of this monumental two-book deluxe slipcased set any day now'. Also that advance sales account for 200 copies atm.

can'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twait

I NEED it now damnit! Hopefully I'll have better luck with getting it fast than the previous times.

[Rat Mentor]

Recieved an email yesterday from Nicky at PSPublishing regarding RotCG. They are expecting the books to arrive on Monday (tomorrow) and then expect 2/3 days of packaging before posting! Hopefully the books will have a fair chance of arriving for week end! Can't wait..

[ShadowOwl]

Interesting news as on May 9, Patrick put this in the other thread: "Pete told me that the book won't ship for a couple of weeks, so I will likely have my review out before the limited edition begins to reach mailboxes!" Guess it is still a guessing game when this book will really be in our hands.......but I'd rather believe yours as it's quicker!

[Quick~]

Just ordered my hardcover version on amazon, can't afford to shell out for the ps version D:

and on the offchance it arrived this week, it'd totally screw over my plans to do coursework haha

[pat5150]

Well, I figure that PS Publishing will start shipping as soon as humanly possible, which is whenever they actually receive the finished copies.

Hopefully I can get my review up before then. . . 220 pages into it, and it's pretty damn good so far!

Patrick

[Dancer+]

I hope mine gets dispatched today, it would be a great boon; after my exam today I will want to be distracted for a few days.

Pat, something tells me you'll have to crank your pace upto near 80-100 pages a night if you are to beat the majority of readers to their mailboxes (unless it doesn't come until the week after this one). I'd be interested to read the review whatever the date is to be honest - it's always interesting to gauge other people's responses/opinions.

Hope you are enjoying the book somewhat. It would be fantastic if it could match SE, it would lead to nothing but positive publicity for the series.

On an aside note - define "pretty damn good"

[pat5150]

Storywise, RotCG is on par with most Malazan books by SE. But though his writing style has improved, ICE's prose is not as fluid as SE.

Nevertheless, in terms of plotlines and such, this is a terrific book so far!

Patrick

[Pig Iron]

pat5150;306652 said:

Storywise, RotCG is on par with most Malazan books by SE. But though his writing style has improved, ICE's prose is not as fluid as SE.

Nevertheless, in terms of plotlines and such, this is a terrific book so far!

Patrick

Soon, soon

(BTW thanks for great recommendations Pat, long time lurker here and at your site)

[pat5150]

Glad to be of help, Pig Iron!

And no, it's impossible for me to read any faster, so you won't see a review for RotCG until next week...

Patrick