The Malazan World Map (RG updating in progress)
#121
Posted 18 April 2008 - 07:29 PM
Just a thought on Lether's tundra and ice near the equator: This bothered me originally when I saw the map, but after thinking about it, its entirely plausible.
Wu's laws aside, Mount Kilimanjaro, in Kenya is relatively speaking close to the Equator and is snow covered year round. As are a chunk of the Andes. All it takes is altitude, and the atmosphere thins and cools rapidly enough the higher you go. So there may be enough altitude to support a tundra climate whilst not being high enough to need oxygen tanks as you roam around lether.
Not that this is enough to spoil my enjoyment of the books.
Wu's laws aside, Mount Kilimanjaro, in Kenya is relatively speaking close to the Equator and is snow covered year round. As are a chunk of the Andes. All it takes is altitude, and the atmosphere thins and cools rapidly enough the higher you go. So there may be enough altitude to support a tundra climate whilst not being high enough to need oxygen tanks as you roam around lether.
Not that this is enough to spoil my enjoyment of the books.
#122
Posted 18 April 2008 - 07:44 PM
then ther's always the easy, Jaghut-related explanation...
#124
Posted 23 June 2008 - 12:06 AM
For the weather, just take a look at our dear earth for an example. First of all, in the best of times the temps are not governed merely by approx to equator. Big landmasses create their own weather, messing with air currents, and this on a large scale is nothing to what big ocean currents do. Being from western Norway I know this very well, as we here can thank the Golf for winters not much colder then France or Spain.
Then there are the Ice ages. The weather today is still in many ways affected by the last Ice age, and that was plenty thusands of years ago. Imagine what that would be like if the ice was still here. And even without magic, that large amounts of ice take thousands of years to go away. reasons for this vary from cold being preserved from below the surface, to all that white reflecting all the sun's heat instead of absorbing it.
Add in all these factors, and I think it would not actually take all that much magic to preserve it forever, not compared to how much it took to change it in the first place.
That being done, Im curious about these "wastes" north of korelri. this seems a strange name o give an empty stretch of ocean. Given that korelri is an archipelago, what if the wastes are the northernmost part of the continent. Huge stretches of unnavigable waters between uninhabited islands, reefs and shifting sands, that sounds like a waste to me, also it sounds more reasonable as a mating ground and such for dhenrabi, and feeding place for sharks. Think colonial times caribbean with slave runners, or Hobb's "Liveship Traders".
Curious to see what Wert thinks here. Am I completely bonkers?
Then there are the Ice ages. The weather today is still in many ways affected by the last Ice age, and that was plenty thusands of years ago. Imagine what that would be like if the ice was still here. And even without magic, that large amounts of ice take thousands of years to go away. reasons for this vary from cold being preserved from below the surface, to all that white reflecting all the sun's heat instead of absorbing it.
Add in all these factors, and I think it would not actually take all that much magic to preserve it forever, not compared to how much it took to change it in the first place.
That being done, Im curious about these "wastes" north of korelri. this seems a strange name o give an empty stretch of ocean. Given that korelri is an archipelago, what if the wastes are the northernmost part of the continent. Huge stretches of unnavigable waters between uninhabited islands, reefs and shifting sands, that sounds like a waste to me, also it sounds more reasonable as a mating ground and such for dhenrabi, and feeding place for sharks. Think colonial times caribbean with slave runners, or Hobb's "Liveship Traders".
Curious to see what Wert thinks here. Am I completely bonkers?
#129
Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:27 AM
Just wondering if I should bother updating the new Werthead World Map
into the format I've been posting here. Should I even carry on doing these maps?
What do you reckon, any suggestions?
into the format I've been posting here. Should I even carry on doing these maps?
What do you reckon, any suggestions?
#130
Posted 11 October 2008 - 04:28 PM
Nagrom, on Oct 11 2008, 11:27 AM, said:
Just wondering if I should bother updating the new Werthead World Map
into the format I've been posting here. Should I even carry on doing these maps?
What do you reckon, any suggestions?
into the format I've been posting here. Should I even carry on doing these maps?
What do you reckon, any suggestions?
I think your maps are smart, and much better-looking than mine. However, I think holding off on the world map might be an idea if it's going to change with every new SE and ICE book that comes out. I can change my map pretty easily as it's just in Paint, but I suspect yours is a bit more of a mission.
However, I'd still like you see your take on the other maps. Something I thought would be cool would be seeing the larger map of Quon Tali from HoC (the one with Falar and the south coast of 7C on it) but with all the names from the BH and RotCG maps on it, so we get a more complete picture.
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#131 Guest_Noxchild_*
Posted 11 October 2008 - 04:43 PM
Nagrom
ETA: Also that cheerleading icon has gotta be the cutest thing ever...
ETA: Also that cheerleading icon has gotta be the cutest thing ever...
This post has been edited by Noxchild: 11 October 2008 - 04:44 PM
#132
Posted 12 October 2008 - 01:06 PM
OK, I'll stay off the World Map until later, maybe put all the smaller ones into the whole thing as a interactive PDF.
(It will be MASSIVE tho so be warned).
And for you Werthead I will make the Quon Tali map...
and thnx Noxchild,
yep it sure is
(It will be MASSIVE tho so be warned).
And for you Werthead I will make the Quon Tali map...
and thnx Noxchild,
yep it sure is
#133
Posted 13 December 2008 - 10:22 AM
Nice work, Nagrom.
Is there going to be a zoom feature? Kind of like whereis.com?
Cheers,
La Sombra, greedy
Is there going to be a zoom feature? Kind of like whereis.com?
Cheers,
La Sombra, greedy
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"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
#134
Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:31 AM
In the original post, Lether looks like a face.
He who was living is now dead
We who were living are now dying
We who were living are now dying
#135
Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:20 AM
#136
Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:50 PM
Also, may I add that the way seven cities is drawn, it looks like a face from the side with a reallllllllly big chin. Genebackis looks like a worm but the lakes make a face, so it is a worm with a face.
I THINK I JUST BUSTED THIS WHOLE MALAZAN MAP CONSPIRACY WIDE OPEN STEVEN ERIKSON HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO.
I THINK I JUST BUSTED THIS WHOLE MALAZAN MAP CONSPIRACY WIDE OPEN STEVEN ERIKSON HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO.
He who was living is now dead
We who were living are now dying
We who were living are now dying
#137
Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:20 AM
I've just finshed reading HoC and can't remember where SE makes a reference to THE second sun, it's either the Pearl and Lostara story or possibly with Karsa but this could take place around 70 Ophiuchi, it's the nearest binary with two G-type stars.
Death is the only portal.
#138
Posted 23 March 2009 - 07:45 AM
Quotes or it didn't happen.
Sure this didn't take place in a different dimension? Maybe the Nascent or somewhere...
Sure this didn't take place in a different dimension? Maybe the Nascent or somewhere...
#139
Posted 23 March 2009 - 10:55 AM
I'm almost certain it is the Nascent too. I did a re-read recently and I think its when Torvald and Karsa are paddling around on the Tiste Edur ships.
#140
Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:13 PM
dunno if Karsa's section ever notes it, but the big point to it is with Trull and Onrack. Twin suns rise and Trull says something like "The suns rise again, here in the heart of Kurald Emurlahn" blah blah blah.