[Aptorian]

The bizarre thing is that, unless I'm missing something they've put really little foreshadowing into the comics about what the upcoming catastrophy is even about. Something about Magneto and Gal Lak Tus. I'm hoping that Ultimate FF makes things more clear since Galactus is a traditional FF baddy.

[Illuyankas]

Oh, Gal Lak Tus isn't related to Ultimatum at all. It's in a couple of miniseries, one of which got cut short. Feel free to read those, they're not too shabby.

[amphibian]

I've only ever gotten into a few comic series - Sandman, Lucifer, Preacher and Ultimate X-Men. So, this being a fresh topic, I'll chip in.

Aptorian, on 03 September 2010 - 09:18 PM, said:

Ultimate X-men was such a load of bullshit that I'm surprised that the series didn't fold in on itself. They took all the old stories and characters and made them boring and simple. I don't know if this was an attempt at making the many separate comic book series that featured the X-men merge into one more simple story but all they did was take out the awesome and replace it with boring. I think the main problem was really bad writing. The first story arch was about the government killing mutants indiscriminately with Sentinels. That's cool. But then it becomes down right stupid when the US send like a 1000 sentinels to kill Magneto and destroy the mutant sanctuary. Seems that the worlds brightest military minds didn't consider sending a thousand metal robots at Magneto would be a bad idea. Then there was the story line where Logan threw Cyclops down a pit to die so that he could have Phonix for himself. Scott lies broken and bloodied in this hole for a month and just barely survives. Afterwards he just forgives Logan... just like that. and it goes on and on with these poorly concieved retcons and character interactions. Pfff.

Cyclops zaps Wolverine in the head and kicks him off the team.

However, Wolverine is brought back onto the team in a nobility gesture.

I stopped buying the trades (and even reading the comics) after the awful Rogue gets kidnapped by twins storyline. The first six or seven trades are actually great retellings of the stories (metal robots scene aside). It seems that after that run, the authors stopped being able to have long storylines play out and had to compress things into a short time. The compression led to tiny ass trades and the story suffered greatly. The initial runs were brilliant in the reinvention and art design. I liked it even better than The Ultimates or Spiderman.

One of the problems Marvel has with this Ultimate universe is that there's no one coherent editorial vision. There needs to be a man or a woman saying "We're doing this storyline, here's the beginning and the end, that storyline, beginning, end, and so on until we reach this point. At that point, we either start coming up with new things or we end the run." - and then farming the actual details of the storylines to the authors/artists.

At least, that's how I would have done it.

[Illuyankas]

I personally would have stabbed Jeph Loeb in the face and prevented him from writing anything else. That would have helped. Also stopping making it a carbon copy of 616.

[Roland_85]

Btw, could anyone tell me a decent reading order for The Siege event hardcovers?

[Primateus]

Ultimatum is the devil!

It, like Ultimates 3, sucks monkey ass!

[wolf_2099]

Illuyankas, on 03 September 2010 - 09:44 PM, said:

Aptorian, on 03 September 2010 - 09:18 PM, said:

Can't wait to finish these up and find out what the whole Ultimatum business is about. To be honest the whole thing seems... uninspired, but I'll wait and see.

NO

DON'T

STOP AT ULTIMATES 2
IGNORE 3 AND ULTIMATUM

THEY ARE SO BAD

LISTEN TO THIS MAN

[Aptorian]

I HAVE TO! I'VE COME TO FAR TO TURN BACK NOW!

In other news nearly done with Ultimate FF. Ultimate Thanos and the whole universe that surrounds him is fucking amazing. He seems a bit less impressive than regular Thanos, but all the characters and the flavor of their technology and powers is very cool. I wouldn't mind reading a comic book series surrounding that universe.

[Primateus]

Aptorian, on 06 September 2010 - 05:50 AM, said:

I HAVE TO! I'VE COME TO FAR TO TURN BACK NOW!

I see you live in Copenhagen...Don't make me come over there!

Aarhus ain't that far away y'know

[Roland_85]

The Walking Dead, Volume Six: This Sorrowful Life

[polishgenius]

Primateus, on 06 September 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

I see you live in Copenhagen...Don't make me come over there!

You know that nothing you can conceivably do to him can match the pain of actually reading them, right?

This post has been edited by polishgenius: 07 September 2010 - 12:37 AM

[Aptorian]

Finished the Ultimate Extinction story yesterday along with Ultimate Nightmare and Ultimate Secret.

Nightmare and Secret were cool enough but man did Extinction suck.

It feels like someone took a great big dump all over my childhood memories.

Spoiler

5 comic books and they waste their time telling some story about about Misty Knight fighting a silver surfer angel. Who gives a fuck? In the end it had nothing to do with the over all solution.

Instead Gah Lak Tus is defeated more or less offscreen by Reed Richards having a brain fart.

After all the ominous foretelling of a creature so horrible that even just knowing about its purpose and form is enough to drive people crazy, I was less than impressed by Gah Lak Tus turning out to be a string of double decker buses with evil glowing eyes. I thought they guy was supposed to be a hundred thousand kilometers across, it's mass so great that it began pulling the top soil of earth apart, etc. Instead it's just hung there in a circle around the planet.

And then they defeat it by giving it a psychic telephone call and shooting a universe at it. That's just plain silly.

How disappointing.

[Primateus]

polishgenius, on 07 September 2010 - 12:36 AM, said:

Primateus, on 06 September 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

I see you live in Copenhagen...Don't make me come over there!

You know that nothing you can conceivably do to him can match the pain of actually reading them, right?

Good point, good point!

I bow before your superior wisdom

[Abyss]

Ellis and Doran's ORBITER.

I wanted to like this. i really did. It starts great, it's got an intriguing mystery about a missing space shuttle returning after ten years and rebooting the American space program, the characters are perfect for the story. But the ultimate pay-off at the end is just... bleh. Like the story was building to a big chase scene and instead we got a group hug and smiles all around. I realize that a big chase with 'splosions wasn't what they were going for and see why Ellis and Doran went the way they did, but in the end it was just a bit too cutesy without enough suspence to make me glad i read it. Disappointing.

[Primateus]

Has any of you read the comic book "Crossed" by Garth Ennis and Jacen Burrows?

If you have, is it any good and should I invest in it?

[Illuyankas]

No. It has a scene where a man hits another person in the face with a horse's penis while yelling "HORSECOCK" and yet somehow manages to be neither funny or interesting. It's basically Ennis writing himself jerking off the Pope while rubbing himself in excrement and asking if we're offended yet, please, he's trying so hard.

[Aptorian]

Ugh Freddy Got Fingered flashbacks...

[RodeoRanch]

I had a DC geekgasm and bought Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, and Blackest Night hardcover.

[stone monkey]

At least 2 of those are good. Although I suspect we may all differ over which of them they are...

[wolf_2099]

stone monkey, on 11 September 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

At least 2 of those are good. Although I suspect we may all differ over which of them they are...

Really? I would say one, and even then, I didn't love it.

2 I would call just bad.