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Did he really die?

#1 Guest_Danyah_*

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 10:01 AM

Somehow I am having doubts with the death of Truth. If you see how fast Stormy could regenerate in the Imperial Warren, and given their immunity to fire and probably plague, I somehow suspect he isn't that dead in the first place. Did you guys maybe found some hints on his deadness.

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 10:48 AM

he jumped into the fire with pretty heavy explosives connected to him. A tyrant could not recist such a blast, why should truth?

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 11:34 AM

Also Baudin burned to death. and he actually states that he thought he was immune to fire but was wrong. i think Truth is dead though not neccesarily out of the series

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 11:34 AM

truth should be dead.... he can heal quickly but unless he has the ability to refenerate from pieces then hes dead....
being blown to pieces really do **** up your healing properties

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 11:35 AM

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 01:30 PM

It was strongly suggested that while he was immune to fire, the exploding cussers were a whole other thing. Interesting tho', as Truth was really a c-list character since he showed up in DG. The big death came nearly out of nowhere, and still impacted (pun intended).

Now that being said, there was a raging fire elemental godling thing burning itself out in the city... one wonders whether, seeking not to die, it might grab a surprisingly resilient body like Truth's... maybe we havn't seen the last of him yet.

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 02:23 PM

I think he might have ascended or combined with the fire spirit that was formed when Y'Ghatan burned. Given that body-death seems to be a popular final step to ascenscion, we can't rule it out for Truth.

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 12:04 AM

Dolorous Menhir said:

Nice, DM! I think you've nailed it with that theory.

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 03:32 AM

He had almost ascended already, so I think it's highly plausible that he finally ascended with death or the action he took. Either way, it's another one of those what if possibilities that makes SE books so good!

Urko Crust said:

Also Baudin burned to death. and he actually states that he thought he was immune to fire but was wrong. i think Truth is dead though not neccesarily out of the series

I thought what Baudin said was ambigious. I thought that his comment about being wrong about being immune could have also been read as though he thought that the divers were immune to fire, when it wasn't. Or maybe I'm wrong. I mean Baudin was burnt to hell...

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 04:34 AM

Baudin thought he was immune to fire because he wasn't burned by the flames the dragon blew at them before the bailed out of the Silandah.

Mistake. Because the oil fires he was doused in fighting Gryllen crisped him but good.

Stormy/Gesler/Truth all became stronger, tougher, and apparently didn't need to eat or sleep. And some healing came with the deal as we saw with Stormy's legs in the Imperial Warren.

So Truth has every reason to survive in YGhatan better than anyone else in the squads, but even so, cussers are a whole other thing.

But the fire elemental thing still seems possible.

- Abyss, could make a joke about "pieces of the Truth".

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 09:21 PM

i reakon Truth will come back in somehow... there was way too much mention of him throughout the later part after he 'died'

Maybe he's dead and he'll do a Hedge... but he'll be back im sure

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 09:59 PM

i think hes just dead. he wasnt a major role and he sacrificed himself just like Bell when he tackled that flming fanatic guy.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 10:09 PM

yeh but wasn't he semi-ascended like the otehrs who survived the fire onboard the sialnda?? not 100% sure on that one but think he did... if so he could definately have a further part to play

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 10:15 PM

O i completely agree he probably will come back in some magical far fetched sort of way. or hell ascend to be the next fool of HHD or sutton like that but he should be dead.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:20 AM

Stormy,Gesler and Truth smei-ascendants. Stormy has more to do in the story so i presume Ges and Truth do also.Steve is into his convoluted plots so i expect Truth to reappear again.

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!!Malazan Book of the Fallen!! - they all seem to be gettin back up....BRILLIANT

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:22 AM

yeh no one seems to fall thats why people believe truth will be back

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:34 AM

traochta said:

WJ wont return - SE

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:44 AM

tread softly because you tread on my Dreams

one could say Dancer and Kellanved would never reappear again
Ammanas and Cotillion n e one??????????????????

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:48 AM

yes but they have been named as kellenved and dancer. WJ wont return a all i dont think. However i cant see why seeing as hedgee did and all the other BB did aswell. surley the ones blessed by paran would come back hedge did