Is Kruppe the mortal sword of Queen of Dreams?
#1 Guest_MPDFuzz_*
Posted 02 March 2006 - 06:45 PM
In rereading MOI, dream references are everywhere with Kruppe. Does it make sense then, that he could be the Mortal Sword so to speak? Not knowing much about this ascendant, doesn't it make sense that the Mortal Sword would be more adept at manipulating dreams, rather than swinging a sword? Could explain how Brood wasn't able to touch him during his hammer temper tantrum I guess.
#2
Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:43 PM
nah, Kruppe's association is clearly with K'rul, not the QoD. and amazing as "Kruppe the Mortal Sword" would be, he strikes as more of a Destriant than a martial type. not that K'rul seems to bother with the titles. and most assume that K'rul was directly protecting him from Brood's hammer, no proof of that though.
funny though, I never connected Kruppe's unusual dreams with the QoD. in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a position in the High House Life. that's an interesting thought. Champion or Priest or (ahem) Virgin.
Kruppe, Virgin of High House Life...has a nice ring to it, no?
funny though, I never connected Kruppe's unusual dreams with the QoD. in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a position in the High House Life. that's an interesting thought. Champion or Priest or (ahem) Virgin.
Kruppe, Virgin of High House Life...has a nice ring to it, no?
#4
Posted 03 March 2006 - 11:19 AM
Kruppe would if so be a Jhistal

Take good care to keep relations civil
It's decent in the first of gentlemen
To speak friendly, Even to the devil
It's decent in the first of gentlemen
To speak friendly, Even to the devil
#5
Posted 03 March 2006 - 09:40 PM
what exactly does this mean. I have not been able to find a definition in any of the glossaries
#6
Posted 29 March 2006 - 04:02 AM
a jhistal preist is a priest (mage) in the cult of Mael.
Mallick Rel, for example, was a Jhistal Priest.
no idea why they are called that though.
Mallick Rel, for example, was a Jhistal Priest.
no idea why they are called that though.
#8 Guest_Danyah_*
Posted 29 March 2006 - 11:33 AM
Kruppe is just allied with K'rul, he's no destriant or anything.
#9
Posted 29 March 2006 - 05:05 PM
Whelp said:
Jhistal=Destriant of Elder Gods, not Mael-specific.
where did you get that idea from (not insulting, i'm interested to know)
#10
Posted 29 March 2006 - 05:52 PM
It's defined in the glossary of The Bonehunters.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
#11
Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:41 PM
Illuyankas said:
It's defined in the glossary of The Bonehunters.
auh ok i haven't been able to get myhands on a copy of BH yet so that explains it

that definitely raises some questions about mael's taste in people though

#12
Posted 30 March 2006 - 01:03 AM
Illuyankas said:
It's defined in the glossary of The Bonehunters.
that would be a spolier then
#13 Guest_Osserc_*
Posted 30 March 2006 - 07:12 PM
anyways...i think since Osserc is the Champion of High House Life, then his son L'oric should be Priest of High House Life...
Kruppe...is an oddity, maybe an unaligned?
Kruppe...is an oddity, maybe an unaligned?
#14
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:47 PM
Osserc said:
anyways...i think since Osserc is the Champion of High House Life, then his son L'oric should be Priest of High House Life...
Kruppe...is an oddity, maybe an unaligned?
Kruppe...is an oddity, maybe an unaligned?
Your argument would start to make sense if you substituted 'Light' for 'Life'

I personally think Kruppe could occupy a position in HH Life, perhaps even Champion, though I think Brood fits better, perhaps Priest for Kruppe?
#15
Posted 06 April 2006 - 11:15 AM
A Priest would assume magical abilities. IIRC we haven't seen any magic performed by Kruppe yet. However, him withstanding the blow from Caladan Brood may suggest he's a K.O. (see HoC) type of person. Extremely self-confident etc.
#16
Posted 06 April 2006 - 01:32 PM
Kruppe is a mage. Don't know why there is doubt over this, it's as obvious in GotM as "Crokus is a thief" or "Sorry is a stone killer".
http://www.malazanempire.com/forums/showth...73250#post73250
http://www.malazanempire.com/forums/showth...73250#post73250
#17
Posted 14 April 2006 - 12:05 PM
Maybe I'm a bit too subjective on this subject, but NO, I DON'T think Kruppe is an ascendant at all!
Mortal Sword? Hoods hairy balls on an anvil, no way!
:eek:
Mortal Sword? Hoods hairy balls on an anvil, no way!
:eek:
And one by one the gardens died
#18 Guest_Danyah_*
Posted 14 April 2006 - 12:07 PM
Thought everybody agreed on Kruppe being a Mockra mage. Don't think he's an ascendant either.
#19
Posted 16 April 2006 - 12:11 AM
Kruppe cant be Mortal sword as that is the mortal chamipion as in martial champion of a god. he could be destriant maybe b ut i doubt it. the oly magi we see kruppe do is the theivery in GOTm and his later wiping of murillios memory when his eel-ery is found out. also i doubt kruppe could be a champion as you have to be a ood warrioir i think. he could be magi or equivelant
#20 Guest_Scorpino_*
Posted 19 April 2006 - 11:52 PM
You all forget that Kruppe tried using his magery on Lorn, but she owned him with her ototaral sword
. No evidence of which warren he possesses (except that it isn't elder) or that he is an ascendant.
Seems to be some sort of link hinted between him and K'rul though in MOI.

Seems to be some sort of link hinted between him and K'rul though in MOI.