Bakker's Prince Of Nothing (Non-Spoilerific!)

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Bakker's Prince Of Nothing (Non-Spoilerific!)

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:12 PM

oh dear

not sure what to do now..
bought first book.. it was ok.. didn't rock my world.. but hey it's new stuff to read. So yesterday, was out on the town and saw the warrior prophet (Buy 2 books get one free) so I bought it along with some other random selections.
so someone persuade me I should read it and not just sell it on... please?

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:58 PM

@quick- I just want to discuss your comment that your disapointed by the lack of strong female characters. I find that its somewhat realistic. the truth is that during the crusades and even further back in time. Women could not really hope for much power unless their husband the king died. Books like WoT that go so far against this mold actually anoy me. I dont think this shows the authors view on women, I believe that bakker simply chose to model much of his world on real life precedants

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 12:15 AM

Cause said:

Indeed. I feel that may be the case. However, it makes me not really like the world he presents then I guess. Which is unfortunate.

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 01:45 AM

@Hetan - Reeeaaaddd It... ^_^

Seriously because 1 or 2 people dislike the novel doesn't mean you wont like it. Besides GOD liked it, and A LOT of Bakker's success can be placed at his feet;) So go read read

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 01:55 AM

Jen said:

@Hetan - Reeeaaaddd It... ^_^

Seriously because 1 or 2 people dislike the novel doesn't mean you wont like it. Besides GOD liked it, and A LOT of Bakker's success can be placed at his feet;) So go read read

I agree. My opinion, is just that. Who knows, you might realy like it. Give it a shot anyway, you bought it, you may as well.

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 12:48 PM

Thousand Fold Thought is incredible just finished it last night and bakker is a genius. Loved the ending had suspected something to do with it but it ended in a great way. And the final battles were great his powers of description leave me in awe. Not as good as the Warrior Prophet but still up there as one of the best fantasy books I have ever read.

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 02:23 PM

you know, SE read the first bakker book and passed it on to me...i tried to read it several times, but kept puttng it down for other stuff...never finished it.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 03:08 AM

Bakker should be required reading for all humans i believe. For all of those people who haven't read it, or are reading it and feel that it has become a chore. Just suck it up for once and finish all 3 books and when your done sit there and think to yourself, was that not one of the greatest, epic, pure brilliant things i have ever read. Hell ill admit while i was reading the 1st book i stopped and read something else before i went back to it. I look back at that and laugh at my foolishness. Now i pray daily for the 1st novel in the aspect emperor trilogy.

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 12:47 PM

Just wanted to give people a heads up (if this is innappropriate, by all means moderation remove it with my sincere apologies)) I'm a owner of Fantasybookspot.com and I just announced the March contest at FBS, and the title says it all, the winner of the draw (announced March 5) will win hard cover editions of all three books in The Prince of Nothng trilogy autographed by author R. Scott Bakker. Yes, that's The Darkness that Comes Before ( I reviewed here), The Warrior Prophet, and The Thousandfold Thought (which I reviewed here), delivered to your door, personalized by the author.

This contest is open to all, for more detals check out this thread, and get it on a great chance to either introduce yourself to the Bakker experience with the entire sequence, or for those of you already have it, to get a brand new set, autographed by the author!

Good luck to all participants.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 02:27 PM

Is Bakker on par with Martin and Erikson. Are his books of the same quality as those from the writers mentioned above?

I am a little bit worried about the originality of the story that Bakker tels when I read a review of it. Are there people in the story that are compariseble with important persons during the Crusades, like the pope of Rome, the Byzantine Emperor, Crusaderleaders, Muslimleaders, Saladin, etc.?

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:06 PM

No, RSB is not on par with either SE or GRRM. But he does have some original ideas and characters that make PoN well worth reading.

OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 02:18 AM

Wow, this thread is still going. I still only managed halfway through Warrior Prophet.....Giving up on a series sucks, but it bored me to tears by mid-book 2...

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 10:59 PM

@Quick - hm, I think you stopped reading at the point where RSB really ups the ante. From that certain point, it became almost impossible for me to stop

... and I'm now eagerly awaiting the release of the paperback of The Thousandfold Thought.

In general, I can understand when people are bored by The Darkness that Comes Before. I liked the world- & character-building done in that novel, but there isn't much happening beyond that. Plus, the skin-spies are just depraved (but I guess that figures: Kellhus analytical, detached manipulation & mindset vs. the Consult's control by depravity and playing to basic instincts).

Since I had The Warrior Prophet at hand shortly after the first one, the two form a cohesive unit in my mind - in terms of ratings, TDtCB might get a lower rating if reviewed on its own, without knowing TWP (am I making any sense here

?).

In my humble opinion, though, I highly recommend PoN to everyone. I even managed to get some friends of mine to read TDtCB and not give up before reading TWP. And now they are as eager for TTT as myself.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:33 AM

I think for me what was most disappointing was how Bakker handled the end of the series. We have spent so much time with Kellhus, getting to his father who is built up to be this all powerful being, and then the actual meeting is was just weak in my opinion. Very much like the ending of Kill Bill 2. All build up no pay off.