[Abyss]

Maark Abbott, on 25 February 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

Abyss, on 24 February 2025 - 06:29 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 February 2025 - 11:30 AM, said:

So no surprise that Netanyahu is reneging on the hostage deal even though Hamas has followed through on their end thus far. What motivation does that give them to release more hostages? I thoroughly expect Israel to resume bombing Gaza within the next couple of days.

There's a solid chance this blows the ceasefire, and it's so so stupid. It's theatrics... Netanyahu caught a lot of anger from the usual sources+ when the dead family's bodies were returned, and needed to be seen to be smacking hamas somehow so he's making a stink about their (garbage theatrics) practice of forcing hostages to parade in front of an audience to smile and wave goodbye before being exchanged, and holding back palestinian prisoners. He expects hamas to back down and resume the exchanges, which is incredibly dumb because hamas doesn't care about the Palestinians and would love to resume hostilities and make it Israel's fault. And he knows this but he doesn't care either.

It was bold to ever expect Israel to honour a pause in its goal of extermination.

'bold' is not a word i would use in describing hamas in lining up civilian victims knowing full well israel will resume bombing at the first opportunity.

[Lady Bliss]

Abyss, on 25 February 2025 - 03:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 25 February 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

Abyss, on 24 February 2025 - 06:29 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 February 2025 - 11:30 AM, said:

So no surprise that Netanyahu is reneging on the hostage deal even though Hamas has followed through on their end thus far. What motivation does that give them to release more hostages? I thoroughly expect Israel to resume bombing Gaza within the next couple of days.

There's a solid chance this blows the ceasefire, and it's so so stupid. It's theatrics... Netanyahu caught a lot of anger from the usual sources+ when the dead family's bodies were returned, and needed to be seen to be smacking hamas somehow so he's making a stink about their (garbage theatrics) practice of forcing hostages to parade in front of an audience to smile and wave goodbye before being exchanged, and holding back palestinian prisoners. He expects hamas to back down and resume the exchanges, which is incredibly dumb because hamas doesn't care about the Palestinians and would love to resume hostilities and make it Israel's fault. And he knows this but he doesn't care either.

It was bold to ever expect Israel to honour a pause in its goal of extermination.

'bold' is not a word i would use in describing hamas in lining up civilian victims knowing full well israel will resume bombing at the first opportunity.

I think negotiators were the bold ones in expecting Israel to keep up their end of the deal.

[Maark Abbott]

Lady Bliss, on 25 February 2025 - 04:20 PM, said:

Abyss, on 25 February 2025 - 03:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 25 February 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

Abyss, on 24 February 2025 - 06:29 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 February 2025 - 11:30 AM, said:

So no surprise that Netanyahu is reneging on the hostage deal even though Hamas has followed through on their end thus far. What motivation does that give them to release more hostages? I thoroughly expect Israel to resume bombing Gaza within the next couple of days.

There's a solid chance this blows the ceasefire, and it's so so stupid. It's theatrics... Netanyahu caught a lot of anger from the usual sources+ when the dead family's bodies were returned, and needed to be seen to be smacking hamas somehow so he's making a stink about their (garbage theatrics) practice of forcing hostages to parade in front of an audience to smile and wave goodbye before being exchanged, and holding back palestinian prisoners. He expects hamas to back down and resume the exchanges, which is incredibly dumb because hamas doesn't care about the Palestinians and would love to resume hostilities and make it Israel's fault. And he knows this but he doesn't care either.

It was bold to ever expect Israel to honour a pause in its goal of extermination.

'bold' is not a word i would use in describing hamas in lining up civilian victims knowing full well israel will resume bombing at the first opportunity.

I think negotiators were the bold ones in expecting Israel to keep up their end of the deal.

I don't think there was ever much of a realistic chance that would have, given the international community's milquetoast response / support in some cases.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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Trump Posts Unhinged AI Video of His Vision for 'Trump Gaza'

"Donald Trump will set you free, bringing the light for all to see,"

https://www.thedaily...for-trump-gaza/

[Abyss]

Maark Abbott, on 26 February 2025 - 08:49 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 25 February 2025 - 04:20 PM, said:

Abyss, on 25 February 2025 - 03:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 25 February 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

Abyss, on 24 February 2025 - 06:29 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 February 2025 - 11:30 AM, said:

So no surprise that Netanyahu is reneging on the hostage deal even though Hamas has followed through on their end thus far. What motivation does that give them to release more hostages? I thoroughly expect Israel to resume bombing Gaza within the next couple of days.

There's a solid chance this blows the ceasefire, and it's so so stupid. It's theatrics... Netanyahu caught a lot of anger from the usual sources+ when the dead family's bodies were returned, and needed to be seen to be smacking hamas somehow so he's making a stink about their (garbage theatrics) practice of forcing hostages to parade in front of an audience to smile and wave goodbye before being exchanged, and holding back palestinian prisoners. He expects hamas to back down and resume the exchanges, which is incredibly dumb because hamas doesn't care about the Palestinians and would love to resume hostilities and make it Israel's fault. And he knows this but he doesn't care either.

It was bold to ever expect Israel to honour a pause in its goal of extermination.

'bold' is not a word i would use in describing hamas in lining up civilian victims knowing full well israel will resume bombing at the first opportunity.

I think negotiators were the bold ones in expecting Israel to keep up their end of the deal.

I don't think there was ever much of a realistic chance that would have, given the international community's milquetoast response / support in some cases.

no argument here - that it has even lasted this long is surprising.

[Abyss]

Part of me wants to see him try. The less sadistic part of me acknowledges that will cost a pile of American and Palestinian lives and thus hopes this is a(nother) 'hey look over here' thing while his DOGE stooges continue to ransack.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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Trump's Blunt 'Last Warning' to the People of Gaza: 'You Are Dead!''

[...] to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits, but not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD! Make a SMART decision. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!"

https://www.thedaily...a-you-are-dead/

Seems like he's going to give Israel permission to openly pursue genocide and murder everyone (except the hostages, if they can manage that). Maybe even extra aid. Wonder if he'll order the US military to "help" murder everyone and if so whether any would refuse---the Trump administration might consider it a "loyalty test" building up to other atrocities outside the Middle East---invading Greenland and murdering or enslaving the native population, aiding Russian invasions, murdering US political opposition or rounding them up to be enslaved or given to Neo-Nazi science....

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 06 March 2025 - 10:36 AM

[HoosierDaddy]

Azath Vitr (D, on 06 March 2025 - 10:35 AM, said:

Quote

Trump's Blunt 'Last Warning' to the People of Gaza: 'You Are Dead!''

[...] to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits, but not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD! Make a SMART decision. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!"

https://www.thedaily...a-you-are-dead/

Seems like he's going to give Israel permission to openly pursue genocide and murder everyone (except the hostages, if they can manage that). Maybe even extra aid. Wonder if he'll order the US military to "help" murder everyone and if so whether any would refuse---the Trump administration might consider it a "loyalty test" building up to other atrocities outside the Middle East---invading Greenland and murdering or enslaving the native population, aiding Russian invasions, murdering US political opposition or rounding them up to be enslaved or given to Neo-Nazi science....

I see this stuff and just think about the people who voted for him because they were upset with Biden/Harris.

I get the protest vote in theory. But, when the repercussions of the protest vote are THIS. And we ALL TOLD THEM THIS WOULD BE THE RESULT, I don't feel bad for those assholes and hope they feel like shit. I feel bad for the Gazans who are going to get even further fucked by American stupidity.

[Chance]

HoosierDaddy, on 06 March 2025 - 02:02 PM, said:

I see this stuff and just think about the people who voted for him because they were upset with Biden/Harris.

I get the protest vote in theory. But, when the repercussions of the protest vote are THIS. And we ALL TOLD THEM THIS WOULD BE THE RESULT, I don't feel bad for those assholes and hope they feel like shit. I feel bad for the Gazans who are going to get even further fucked by American stupidity.

Its pretty crazy...a vote for Trump might be one of very few time we can pretty much 100% say people have voted for and gotten policies that directly kill people. Of course most of those people live far away.

This post has been edited by Chance: 06 March 2025 - 04:21 PM