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Twilight Imperium 8 : Magi's Madness - Chat Thread

#101 User is offline   twelve 

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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:16 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 02:02 PM, said:

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View PostMorgoth, on 19 April 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

I suspect you will have your hands full with others reaching for the systems bordering on your homeworld to give any focus to Evarra, twelve.

Everra is too good and easier to defend than a bunch of 2 and 3 planet systems and Rex isn't out of my plans entirely.


Never let it be said that you lack for ambition twelve

How is it ambition when I dont even bother with most of the systems near me? The starting position is aptly named. I dont see how I can hold them all so I'm not even going to try.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:17 PM

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khell, Tapper what are your thoughts on IH whoring out his commodities to D'rek? I dont know about you all but I have some serious misgivings about that.


Well if you don't want IH to gain anything I'm perfectly willing to do the same deal I proposed with Morgoth with you instead.

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

D'rek I had hoped you would use that agent to give you some commodities and I could trade the commodities from my explorers first round.


I don't understand what you mean there?

I have a bunch of Industrial planets. I fully plan on exploring a lot of them this round. Chances are goog I'll get some commodities off them. Hence I trade these for yiurs.


So to be clear, you're not offering TG in exchange for me using my agent on you, you are only offering that if I use my agent on myself you will trade commodities-for-commodities with me at an equal rate? Is that correct?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:19 PM

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 02:02 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 April 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

I suspect you will have your hands full with others reaching for the systems bordering on your homeworld to give any focus to Evarra, twelve.

Everra is too good and easier to defend than a bunch of 2 and 3 planet systems and Rex isn't out of my plans entirely.


Never let it be said that you lack for ambition twelve

How is it ambition when I dont even bother with most of the systems near me? The starting position is aptly named. I dont see how I can hold them all so I'm not even going to try.


Yes but going for rex and tangling with Morgoth over everra when you are going to have multiple people with fleets next to your homeworld seems a tad ambitious ;)
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:19 PM

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 02:10 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khell, Tapper what are your thoughts on IH whoring out his commodities to D'rek? I dont know about you all but I have some serious misgivings about that.


Well if you don't want IH to gain anything I'm perfectly willing to do the same deal I proposed with Morgoth with you instead.

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

D'rek I had hoped you would use that agent to give you some commodities and I could trade the commodities from my explorers first round.


I don't understand what you mean there?


I think he's more worried about what you are gaining ;)


Well if I can get 3 TG from it of course I'm going to pick that over only 2 commodities and having to wait to trade those to Twelve (or anyone else). But I'm certainly willing to consider other options if he can make a tempting offer. There is no silk too fine and all that jazz.

But why worry? I'm just using my agent, we've all got one.

I'm worried because you are already trying to buddy buddy with the cabal and direct his attention my way while growing rich on a far off trade route. Seems like I have a lot to worry about.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:19 PM

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 02:17 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khell, Tapper what are your thoughts on IH whoring out his commodities to D'rek? I dont know about you all but I have some serious misgivings about that.


Well if you don't want IH to gain anything I'm perfectly willing to do the same deal I proposed with Morgoth with you instead.

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

D'rek I had hoped you would use that agent to give you some commodities and I could trade the commodities from my explorers first round.


I don't understand what you mean there?

I have a bunch of Industrial planets. I fully plan on exploring a lot of them this round. Chances are goog I'll get some commodities off them. Hence I trade these for yiurs.


So to be clear, you're not offering TG in exchange for me using my agent on you, you are only offering that if I use my agent on myself you will trade commodities-for-commodities with me at an equal rate? Is that correct?

Yes
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 02:23 PM

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 02:17 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khell, Tapper what are your thoughts on IH whoring out his commodities to D'rek? I dont know about you all but I have some serious misgivings about that.


Well if you don't want IH to gain anything I'm perfectly willing to do the same deal I proposed with Morgoth with you instead.

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

D'rek I had hoped you would use that agent to give you some commodities and I could trade the commodities from my explorers first round.


I don't understand what you mean there?

I have a bunch of Industrial planets. I fully plan on exploring a lot of them this round. Chances are goog I'll get some commodities off them. Hence I trade these for yiurs.


So to be clear, you're not offering TG in exchange for me using my agent on you, you are only offering that if I use my agent on myself you will trade commodities-for-commodities with me at an equal rate? Is that correct?

Yes


Okay, well I'm not throwing away the offer, but it's currently not as good as the deal with IH so for now it's a no. But if IH backs out of the other deal, who knows maybe we come back to this. Or maybe we swap other commodities gained from other means (we'll both get some from trade secondary after all).

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:08 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 02:02 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 April 2021 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 April 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

I suspect you will have your hands full with others reaching for the systems bordering on your homeworld to give any focus to Evarra, twelve.

Everra is too good and easier to defend than a bunch of 2 and 3 planet systems and Rex isn't out of my plans entirely.


Never let it be said that you lack for ambition twelve

To keep the two of you, feeling equally treated over Everra, I am more than happy to occupy it.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:15 PM

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

We ended up getting into this game so fast we didn't really finish up any of the resolutions from the serious post-game thread. So a couple misc notes/questions (moreso for Blend but also for everyone)

PNs -- we should start distinguishing PNs in hand vs in play area in status blocks? (we can specify both, or the existing listing can just only refer to hand)


Please list what's in your hand. If it's in the play area, it should be in your play area, but not listed in the PNs section of your game post.

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Start of turn -- note that we more or less agreed this will now be after resolving secondaries. The main difference is you can't do transactions until "during your turn", so no transactions before/between secondaries. But also if you have any "at the start of your turn" effects it is after secondaries.


Agreed - no trading DURING secondaries. Your turn only starts after secondaries are done.

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Map changes -- I shrunk the size of the units to 70% in the template so they can all fit onto planets/systems better. If you find they are now too small, let us know, maybe 80 or 90% would have been better instead. I also made some custom res/inf override graphics and generic attachment tokens so Blend can increase the planet values directly but still indicate when planets have an attachment visually. The override graphics have slightly different colours so you can tell they've been altered, too.


I actually started using the old map file you had sent me before you sent me the new map file, so the units are actually still the same size as they were.

I will be updating planets' resources/influence values directly on the map rather than adding attachments. If there's been a change to the original values, the new values will be in RED. That will indicate that there's an attachment. I will still use the attachment tokens for adding tech specialties and things like Crown of Emphidia, etc.

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Khell/IH - with Blend putting the leader cards and faction sheets in the map, what do you think, should we still link the faction summary cards in the game thread posts, too?


I'll add race sheets to the second post of the game post. Will do my best to remember to update them as we go, but putting everything on the map was also to help me remember to updated everything that needs to be updated when I'm doing updates. The less places I have to worry about checking every update, the less likely I am to miss anything.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:18 PM

Ok! Sounds good Blend!

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:30 PM

Just realized what you meant by Faction Summary cards.

I thought of including them in game PMs, but I couldn't find them already made anywhere, so I never got around to doing it.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM

Tatts - any chance you could use a different font colour in your game post? Or just leave it to the standard font colour? I currently can't read more than half your post without highlighting it.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM

I'm chopping them up now, will have them ready in a bit.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM

@IH you're first up, want to do the my-agent, 3-and-1 TG thing right away on your first turn?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:34 PM

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

@IH you're first up, want to do the my-agent, 3-and-1 TG thing right away on your first turn?


How can we do that when you don't have any TG?
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:36 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

Tatts - any chance you could use a different font colour in your game post? Or just leave it to the standard font colour? I currently can't read more than half your post without highlighting it.


I didn't know I was using a different font to anyone else. I have "updated" it selecting black for it all.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:37 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 April 2021 - 03:36 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

Tatts - any chance you could use a different font colour in your game post? Or just leave it to the standard font colour? I currently can't read more than half your post without highlighting it.


I didn't know I was using a different font to anyone else. I have "updated" it selecting black for it all.



Weird, wonder why it did that. Everything is visible now, thank you! :)
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:37 PM

Twelve what are you going to be charging for a free refresh?
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:37 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

@IH you're first up, want to do the my-agent, 3-and-1 TG thing right away on your first turn?


How can we do that when you don't have any TG?


Oh yeah, I guess that becomes 2 transactions to do that, eh.

Well, I'm the next turn right after you, so we could do use the agent and you send me 3 commodities on your turn, then at the start of my turn I swap your 1 commodity for a TG.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:41 PM

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 April 2021 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 April 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

@IH you're first up, want to do the my-agent, 3-and-1 TG thing right away on your first turn?


How can we do that when you don't have any TG?


Oh yeah, I guess that becomes 2 transactions to do that, eh.

Well, I'm the next turn right after you, so we could do use the agent and you send me 3 commodities on your turn, then at the start of my turn I swap your 1 commodity for a TG.


I'm not doing that because if twelve plays trade early I won't be able to take advantage of trade fully with the new secondary rules.
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Posted 19 April 2021 - 03:44 PM

Actually reading your agent, what is the timing? Is it your action phase or anyone's?
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