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Twilight Imperium 8 : Magi's Madness - Chat Thread

#2841 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 19 August 2021 - 08:20 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 19 August 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 August 2021 - 04:06 PM, said:

Morgoth. If you still want to cash in on rally I can build a destroyer. I'll give back the SFTT as I still want access to your commander. Let me know before my turn.


Hm, I am not sure that’s what I want to do this turn.


Are you going to take Rex?
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Posted 20 August 2021 - 08:29 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 August 2021 - 08:20 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 August 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 August 2021 - 04:06 PM, said:

Morgoth. If you still want to cash in on rally I can build a destroyer. I'll give back the SFTT as I still want access to your commander. Let me know before my turn.


Hm, I am not sure that's what I want to do this turn.


Are you going to take Rex?


It's certainly tempting, but I'm hardly the only one thinking that, and I worry I might overstretch
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Posted 20 August 2021 - 12:03 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 August 2021 - 06:30 PM, said:

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View PostImperial Historian, on 19 August 2021 - 04:49 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 19 August 2021 - 08:56 AM, said:

Haha, I said this was the worst Hero power from the very beginning. But I don’t care, I got the War Sun! Can’t believe that was one of the few that actually got taken.

@IH: Yes, I am willing to deal on the War Sun.


You can just give it me back right? What are you suggesting?


You suggested ‘for a price’ first. So what price are you paying?


5TG?


Got any action cards or promissory notes you’d like to part with?
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Posted 20 August 2021 - 04:27 PM

I don't think I can trade action cards unless I'm mistaken? Getting d'rek involved seems needlessly complicated.

The only promissory notes of mine I have are my trade and political PNs, and my racial which is useless for you, but I'd be willing to trade them.
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Posted 20 August 2021 - 10:41 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 20 August 2021 - 04:27 PM, said:

I don't think I can trade action cards unless I'm mistaken? Getting d'rek involved seems needlessly complicated.

The only promissory notes of mine I have are my trade and political PNs, and my racial which is useless for you, but I'd be willing to trade them.


Not sure why you think involving D’rek seems complicated, seems very simple to me. I’ll have a think about a deal, though I don’t see ACs as off the table just because we have to use an intermediary.

In the meantime, are you waiting for us to strike a deal before you take your action, or are you still thinking about what to do?
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Posted 21 August 2021 - 12:16 AM

A bit of both, but I want to at least have an idea about the order of magnitude of any deal before I make a move.

I don't think using d'rek as an intermediary will be as straightforward as you think, but okay.

I'm really not sure what I'm doing next though, your hero has thoroughly flummoxed me.
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Posted 21 August 2021 - 07:49 AM

Well, what about Quann?
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Posted 21 August 2021 - 08:23 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

Well, what about Quann?


I am not willing to do that deal. TG, PN or possibly an action card is all I'm offering.
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Posted 21 August 2021 - 04:58 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 20 August 2021 - 08:29 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 19 August 2021 - 08:20 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 August 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 August 2021 - 04:06 PM, said:

Morgoth. If you still want to cash in on rally I can build a destroyer. I'll give back the SFTT as I still want access to your commander. Let me know before my turn.


Hm, I am not sure that's what I want to do this turn.


Are you going to take Rex?


It's certainly tempting, but I'm hardly the only one thinking that, and I worry I might overstretch

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Posted 21 August 2021 - 07:10 PM

If you have a realistic price in mind just say it IH. What's the point of hemming and hawing and offering naught but peanuts you know will be turned down? Obviously Khell isn't going to take a deal that's worth less than even building the war sun costs, let alone the opportunity cost of not being able to have 2 suns on the board.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 August 2021 - 07:56 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2021 - 08:23 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

Well, what about Quann?


I am not willing to do that deal. TG, PN or possibly an action card is all I'm offering.


What about a Quann borrow? I give it back to you after status phase.
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Posted 22 August 2021 - 09:07 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2021 - 08:23 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2021 - 07:49 AM, said:

Well, what about Quann?


I am not willing to do that deal. TG, PN or possibly an action card is all I'm offering.


What about a Quann borrow? I give it back to you after status phase.


So I give you Quann, you give me my ships back and you will give quann back to me in the next agenda phase? I could agree to that.
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 07:36 AM

Great, although seeing as you’ll be getting your War Sun back straight away, I would also like to throw in the agreement that this round you will not venture into, attack, molest, or otherwise antagonise in any way my territories as they currently stand (and including Quann).
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 08:29 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 23 August 2021 - 07:36 AM, said:

Great, although seeing as you'll be getting your War Sun back straight away, I would also like to throw in the agreement that this round you will not venture into, attack, molest, or otherwise antagonise in any way my territories as they currently stand (and including Quann).


If you do likewise sure.
Though having just looked at quann the wording is:During the agenda phase, this planet's planet card can be traded as part of a transaction.Does that mean it can't be traded outside of the agenda phase?
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 08:46 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 23 August 2021 - 08:29 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 23 August 2021 - 07:36 AM, said:

Great, although seeing as you'll be getting your War Sun back straight away, I would also like to throw in the agreement that this round you will not venture into, attack, molest, or otherwise antagonise in any way my territories as they currently stand (and including Quann).


If you do likewise sure.
Though having just looked at quann the wording is:During the agenda phase, this planet's planet card can be traded as part of a transaction.Does that mean it can't be traded outside of the agenda phase?


Oh that’s really annoying if so
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 08:57 AM

Yeah, looks like it’s pretty clear. Alright, I can still do the trade, just in agenda phase, but if you want the War Sun back in this phase then I’d need something in this phase too (on top of Quann in agenda phase).
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 12:17 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 23 August 2021 - 08:57 AM, said:

Yeah, looks like it’s pretty clear. Alright, I can still do the trade, just in agenda phase, but if you want the War Sun back in this phase then I’d need something in this phase too (on top of Quann in agenda phase).



What do you want on top of this?
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 02:03 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 23 August 2021 - 12:17 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 23 August 2021 - 08:57 AM, said:

Yeah, looks like it’s pretty clear. Alright, I can still do the trade, just in agenda phase, but if you want the War Sun back in this phase then I’d need something in this phase too (on top of Quann in agenda phase).



What do you want on top of this?



You use your Agent on me, and a very reasonable 3TG.
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 03:00 PM

That's a ridiculous price on top of quann and almost certainly 2vp.

3TG I can do, but not my agent. And we agree not to molest each other.
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Posted 23 August 2021 - 03:15 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 23 August 2021 - 03:00 PM, said:

That's a ridiculous price on top of quann and almost certainly 2vp.

3TG I can do, but not my agent. And we agree not to molest each other.



I would say it's still less ridiculous than you suggesting 5TG only.

It's a potential 2VP in a future round at which point others will be well ahead of me, while also stopping me pursuing the only 2VP objective this round (because what would be the point of taking Quann then?). Without the Agent the price I'd agree to certainly goes above 3TG for your War Sun being returned immediately.

Is the Agent off the table? I don't mind you choosing the time to play it. Otherwise...6 TG and a Quann borrow and no molesting?

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