[D'rek]

@Morgoth - instead of getting 2tg for voting for Tapper on the 2nd agenda, if you put all your votes on me for the first agenda I'll use my agent to give you 3 commodities at the time of your choosing this coming round.

[Morgoth]

If you also offer to wash them if I need to, I’ll take that deal. All my votes on you for Minister of Industry.

[D'rek]

Morgoth, on 16 May 2021 - 02:25 PM, said:

If you also offer to wash them if I need to, I’ll take that deal. All my votes on you for Minister of Industry.

Sure

[Tapper]

D, on 16 May 2021 - 01:29 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 16 May 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

Tapper, on 15 May 2021 - 05:52 AM, said:

I'd like to buy votes for minister of policy.
My Commander for the player with the most votes (10+ votes minimum dedicated and counted), 2 TG for the next highest (8 minimum and counted) my Trade Agreement to the third (6 minimum and counted).

Morgoth

There's 3 different people offering their votes for that though, tàtts, so tapper needs to clarify, I think.

I'm offering the most, so I think I should get the alliance card. And I'd like assurance that you (Tapper) wont vote against me on the first agenda with any excess votes.

I think it is pretty clear what I offer and to whom, and on which conditions. If you supply the most votes, you get the Alliance. Next highest total gets 2 TG, 3rd highest my Trade Agreement. In case of a tie... /shrug. We'll see that when we get there.

Edit; and no-one has named or committed their vote totals yet

This post has been edited by Tapper: 16 May 2021 - 02:54 PM

[Tapper]

But if you want assurance I will not vote on Minister of Industry: hereby given.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 16 May 2021 - 02:44 PM, said:

D, on 16 May 2021 - 01:29 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 16 May 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

Tapper, on 15 May 2021 - 05:52 AM, said:

I'd like to buy votes for minister of policy.
My Commander for the player with the most votes (10+ votes minimum dedicated and counted), 2 TG for the next highest (8 minimum and counted) my Trade Agreement to the third (6 minimum and counted).

Morgoth

There's 3 different people offering their votes for that though, tàtts, so tapper needs to clarify, I think.

I'm offering the most, so I think I should get the alliance card. And I'd like assurance that you (Tapper) wont vote against me on the first agenda with any excess votes.

I think it is pretty clear what I offer and to whom, and on which conditions. If you supply the most votes, you get the Alliance. Next highest total gets 2 TG, 3rd highest my Trade Agreement. In case of a tie... /shrug. We'll see that when we get there.

Edit; and no-one has named or committed their vote totals yet

I offered/committed 10 votes to you earlier, and with the idea that I would increase that to outbid others if necessary.

But Tatts, Morgoth, Twelve, and Khell are all now voting on Minister of Industry, so I'd propose you simplify things -- I give you all my (16) votes for Minister of Policy in exchange for your alliance PN and 1 TG, and you don't offer anything to IH. IH's 14 votes can't beat us (or IH+Twelve's votes vs you+me+Khell) so no need to pay him for something you don't need. It guarantees you the Minister of Policy result and it costs you 1 TG less than faithfully going through with your previous offer where you'd have to give the alliance card to me for the highest votes and 2 TG to IH for 2nd-highest.

Tapper, on 16 May 2021 - 02:45 PM, said:

But if you want assurance I will not vote on Minister of Industry: hereby given.

Great!

[twelve]

Khell it looks like D'rek is throwing her wallet at this again. I wont be able to outbid her and my money will be better spent on units. Feel free to vote how you want.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 16 May 2021 - 03:22 PM, said:

Khell it looks like D'rek is throwing her wallet at this again. I wont be able to outbid her and my money will be better spent on units. Feel free to vote how you want.

Come to think of it, wasn't Tapper/Khell's deal for Khell to not play the Committee card *and* to vote for Tapper, so Khell couldn't have voted for you and kept both deals anyway?

Tapper, on 15 May 2021 - 05:54 AM, said:

What can I do to persuade you to vote for me and not play it, instead, since you're alledgedly on the fence?

[Khellendros]

D, on 16 May 2021 - 03:26 PM, said:

twelve, on 16 May 2021 - 03:22 PM, said:

Khell it looks like D'rek is throwing her wallet at this again. I wont be able to outbid her and my money will be better spent on units. Feel free to vote how you want.

Come to think of it, wasn't Tapper/Khell's deal for Khell to not play the Committee card *and* to vote for Tapper, so Khell couldn't have voted for you and kept both deals anyway?

Tapper, on 15 May 2021 - 05:54 AM, said:

What can I do to persuade you to vote for me and not play it, instead, since you're alledgedly on the fence?

The deal I agreed to was not to play Committee, as detailed in the next few posts after that. But if Twelve doesn’t want my votes then I have no issue with swapping over.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 15 May 2021 - 09:14 PM, said:

Tapper, what’s your offer for me not to play Committee Formation? I’m now of a mind to play it, but I’d like to check what I’d be missing out on first.

Tbh D'rek, this was what I replied to with the offer Khell accepted. If he were to add votes, he'd reap a reward - hence why I structured my offer to thread as I did.

[D'rek]

Ah, okay, wasn't sure from the way you two were replying back and forth which original post it was based on.

Anyway, Tapper, I think my suggestion still holds water, but if you'd rather just stick to the 10 votes for just alliance PN that's still fine by me, I'm happy either way.

[Tapper]

D, on 16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM, said:

Ah, okay, wasn't sure from the way you two were replying back and forth which original post it was based on.

Anyway, Tapper, I think my suggestion still holds water, but if you'd rather just stick to the 10 votes for just alliance PN that's still fine by me, I'm happy either way.

While your deal makes sense and is more profitable for me, I made an offer to thread based on the information I had and I feel I need to honor that.

Just to remind you: if IH (or Khell more than either of you) throws more votes my way than you, the Alliance will be his. The offer was very specific on that.

[Khellendros]

I count a possible 28-26 for D’rek on Industry, so if you could bargain another 3 votes Twelve...

Just putting it out there

Edit: Think it would have to be from IH as everyone else’s votes are now tied down.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 16 May 2021 - 05:52 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 16 May 2021 - 05:50 PM, said:

I count a possible 28-26 for D’rek on Industry, so if you could bargain another 3 votes Twelve...

Just putting it out there

Edit: Think it would have to be from IH as everyone else’s votes are now tied down.

.

I can't vote on industry

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 16 May 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 May 2021 - 05:50 PM, said:

I count a possible 28-26 for D’rek on Industry, so if you could bargain another 3 votes Twelve...

Just putting it out there

Edit: Think it would have to be from IH as everyone else’s votes are now tied down.

.

I can't vote on industry

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Looks like it’s a lost cause Twelve!

[Imperial Historian]

I'm not sure why tapper agreed not to vote on industry, he has policy sewn up so thought he'd at least try to get something else out of the deal from d'rek for industry

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 16 May 2021 - 06:52 PM, said:

I'm not sure why tapper agreed not to vote on industry, he has policy sewn up so thought he'd at least try to get something else out of the deal from d'rek for industry

Good point well made.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 16 May 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 May 2021 - 05:50 PM, said:

I count a possible 28-26 for D’rek on Industry, so if you could bargain another 3 votes Twelve...

Just putting it out there

Edit: Think it would have to be from IH as everyone else’s votes are now tied down.

.

I can't vote on industry

Why?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 15 May 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 May 2021 - 07:15 PM, said:

Drek I'll swap it for your trade PN

I don't think it's worth that much. Twelve can deactivate his systems after all.

But it'll cost him to do so.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 16 May 2021 - 07:00 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 16 May 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 May 2021 - 05:50 PM, said:

I count a possible 28-26 for D’rek on Industry, so if you could bargain another 3 votes Twelve...

Just putting it out there

Edit: Think it would have to be from IH as everyone else’s votes are now tied down.

.

I can't vote on industry

Why?

I played his Political Secret card on it.