[Trotts]

lol mott!! i thinks that likely exactly how it would play out

i wouldnt call moroch "nothing special" he was of a rank almost equal to brys, and the errant had selected moroch to fight b'nagga. clearly moroch has to have a decent amount of skill

[Imperial Historian]

1. Fear- I never got the impression that bult was very good..
2. Stormy- Brukhalian is the mortal sword of the god of battle and pre the events in dhg theres now way in hell stromy would have been able to beat him, but with the t'lan imass blade, the power provided by his journey throgh kurald thryllan and then feners blessing through heborics healing... i'd say that effectively Stormy is the new mortal swrod of fener.
3. Kallor - Temper was quite good, and he'd probably last a long time against kallor, but kallor has millenia of experience and is damned good anyway, whilst Temper is... ordinary though immensely stubborn.
4. Rhulad
5. Gruntle
6. Brys
7. Senu - Anyone who can carve up k'chain che'malle has to be be good
8. Whiskeyjack

[Hume]

Fear.
Stormy
Kallor (but only just)
Rhulad (easilly)
Gruntle (only just as well)
Brys (easilly)
Moroch (easilly)
Whiskeyjack (easilly)

[Oceao]

1.Fear

2.Bruhkhalian

3. still waiting on NoK

4. Lorn - Why not?

5. Kalam

6. Brys

7. Senu

8. Whiskeyjack

[Leoman of the Flails]

1) Im going to have to go with Fear on this one. Bult may be a highly respected commander/warrior/leader for the Wickan people, but Fear Sengar is Weapon Master for the whole Edur race, which number in the hundreds of thousands. And given what we have seen of the Edur thus far, thats saying quite a bit.

2) This battle would be one hell of a match. Brukhalian is the Mortal Sword of Fener, (assuming he hasnt come back from the dead all Imass'ed out) but Stormy has (nearly?) Ascended carry an Imass flint sword. Hard to pick a winner, but Im gonna go with Brukhalian.

3) Cant say till I read Nok.

4) While Rhulad might have gotten stronger since his last death, Brys Beddict did give him a run for his money, and from what we've seen of Lorn's sword skills we know the girl can fight. If Rhulad becomes more adept with a blade when he dies, Id give this to the Emp. Otherwise I think Lorn could pull off a heavy upset.

5) Kalam, by far my favorite character in the MBOTF series. Gruntle, easily my second favorite character. Tough choice, but Gruntle is the Mortal Sword to Trake. Gruntle takes it on account of being champion to a god, as previously stated. and he can swing a sword. decent.

6) Hands down Brys takes it. Dont need to tell you guys to read Brys vs Rhulad in MT.

7) Couldnt really say, but what we've seen of the Seguleh in battle so far, the fact that 3 of them accompanied by Lady Envy and Co mowed down a good number of the Pannion Seer's finest. Edge: Senu.

8) Whiskeyjack. Point blank period, no pigmy shapeshifter will change this outcome, even if there was another dude on Bnagga's shoulders.


Thats my two cents.

[Valgard]

1 Fear would win this one hands down as he is described as the greatest warrior of the edur bulk would have no hope.

2 Stormy as much as I loved Brukhalian I think that stormy would have the edge here.

3 temper as kallor would chop him to peices but it wouldn't help temper would not surrender and would end up destroying kallor.

4 Rhulad no contest lorn is no match for him.

5 Hard one to call kalam in an incredible warrior but I think this one has to go to the chosen of Trake.

6 Brys no contest he would slice trotts to ribbons without trotts having a hope.

7 Hard one to call but I think that it would be senu who would take it in the end but a very close fight.

8 Whiskykack without a dopubt any one who can give dassem Ultor a run for their money is going to win this one.

[MottIrregular]

Gruntle is the chosen one of trake and atj, but one shouldn't forget who the Assassin of High House Shadow is....

[Morgoth]

MottIrregular said:

Gruntle is the chosen one of trake and atj, but one shouldn't forget who the Assassin of High House Shadow is....

Er, right now It's probably Apsalar, or perhaps Cutter.. Why?

Kalam occupied the position of Assassin of HHS for a short while yes, but he did not recieve any aditional powers so to speak from his temporary masters. Now Gruntle on the other hand, grew a lot stronger, and as several people testified to, he was already a superb swordsman before that. Being the temporary pawn of a god does not mean the same thing as being a god's most favoured servant/follower/partner or whatever.

And just as a notice, NoK clearly states how impossible it is for a mortal warriror to fight a god's chosen champion.

[Tes'thesula]

hello...just thought i would add some info...the way i read it, the errant chose monoch to kill the pack...not b'nagga...thus perhaps we should revise our estimation of him...
anyway..on temper and kallor...i don't care how stubborn you are, if you have a couple of feet of steel lodged in your chest, your not going anywhere...(plus i love kallor ) he has been fighting for hundreds of thousands of years and never been defeated, thatrs saying something, even if he never challenged the greatest of the world's warriors he is something special

[Zendog13]

1) Fear
2)Brunkhalian
3)Temper
4)Lorn: coolheaded millitarist vs deranged youth with magic sword that he no longer wants? No contest.
5)Kalam
6)Brys
7)Senu: Dont ask...its a mask thing
8)WhiskeyJ: He the Garnd Pumbahhhh!!!!

[Iron Bars]

Kalam may be faster but Gruntle isn't that slow either, his god is a tiger after all. The champion of a god has certain advantages as Gruntle has clearly shown in MOI. Kalam, coolness and all, will give him a run for his money but will eventually lose.

[Trotts]

i guess we should discuss the terrain a little too. i mean if its a cityscape with lots of rooftops and dark shadowy buildings, i think kalam can win easily. but if its just an open field, then gruntle would likely dominate.

[garden_rake]

1. fear - not even close
2. stormy - tough one but i think the various investements in hemself and sword may give him the egde
3. need NOK
4. Rhulad - i never got the impression that lorn was especially fantastic, the otataral sword being more significant than her skill, and seen as that wouldnt affect rhulad...
5. gruntle - real tough one, i really am a big kalam lover, but the bottom line is his skill is in assassination - speed stealth shadows, so if it was a straight fight the mortal sword of the god of war would have to take him
6. brys - i like trotts but brys is portrayed as one of the greatest mortal swordsmen alive and he would quite easily hand trotts own backside to him
7. senu - didnt really see a whole lot about moroch, and tool does say that senu put up a good fight so thatl do for me!
8. whiskeyjack - because i love him, in a very manly way, and pray most nights that he will return in the later books ( i know he wont but leave me to my praying )

[MottIrregular]

I agree on the terrain bit though.... Kalam wouldn't let the fight get to an open field

As for Senu.... well, it takes a certain amount of skill to dispatch Kell Hunters (I hesitate to spell k'c'h'a'i'n' c'h'e' m'a'l'l'e!) een when aided with another Seguleh. The Bridgeburners and the Grey Swords certainly had their hands full..... I like the lil kid (in an avancular sort of way )

So far the only unanimous ones seem to be Brys, Fear and WJ - and the last one was partly sentimental on everyone's part, i bet

[Set'alahd Crool]

1: Fear. That's an easy one.

2: Tough one, this. Ordinarilly the patroned fighter would win, but Stormy's not your average unpatroned soldier. I'll give it to Stormy.

3: Kallor is pretty good, and experienced, but Temper's not just stubborn. He's the only example I can think of where the unpatroned DID stand up to the patroned. He just doesn't know how good he is. Temper takes it in the end.

4: Another toughy. I'll go for Rhulad.

5: Hmm. I think.....Kalam. Otataral evens it out and he's got the skill, even though Gruntle's got the reach.

6: No contest. Brys. Not that trotts is below par, but I reckon Brys is right up there. I mean, the Errant thought Moroch could take the Pack on his own, and Brys is better again.

7: Like I said, a god thought he could take the Pack on his own, and Iron Bars lost a squad member doing that. Moroch Nevath.

8: ???? Why bother asking? WJ without a doubt.

[Abyss]

1 - Fear. There's a big difference between a cavalry commander and a weapons master, however you slice it. Pun intended.

2 - Stormy. Although i'm sure Brukky was a skillful badass, Stormy has no less than three different forms of magic running... Kurald Thyrllan exposure, the madness infection Heboric passed him, possible link to Fener, and an Imass sword... Stormy would just weather Brukky's attacks and hack him to pieces. Pun intended.

3 - Temper. Kallor was skilled, but Temper trained with Dassem, and Whiskeyjack almost beat Dassem, and also almost beat Kallor but for the leg, and therefore where was i going with this?

4 - Rhulad. Otataral doesn't work on elder magic and the CG's chaos magic is about as old as it gets, i suppose. Eliminate the otataral and Lorn's skilled, but not that skilled, or Murillio and Blues would not have tagged her.

5 - Kalam. Because he'd fight dirty, and Trake's magic isn't elder, so the otataral remains a factor. Plus, i mean c'mon, the guy's a friggin cat.

6 - Brys. Not even a contest. He wouldn't get suckered in like the Bhargast kid Trotts almost died killing.

7 - Monoch. Because there has to be a reason the Errant thought he could take on The Pack and have a shot at winning.

8 - Whiskeyjack. Because soletaken wolf form or pygmy spear tosser, Whiskeyjack was definitely a serious swordman, and Trull showed the Jheck weren't that tough.

- Abyss, required to mention that Wolverine would kick all their @$$e$!!!!

[Tes'thesula]

When's the next round turning up???
(go kallor go....K...A...L...L...O...R...KALLOR)

[Trotts]

i think sunday is when the poster said the next round would be up

but we should prolly decide exactly who wins each fight, cos we are still disputing bruk/stormy, kalam/gruntle, and senu/moroch (maybe not so much this one, the majority seem to say senu)

[Iron Bars]

I'd say count how many times each one has been voted for and the one with the most votes is the winner.