Twilight Imperium VI: Revengeancest - Chat Thread
				
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				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:25 PM
						Ok, so looks like everything is correct now. And barring any objection from Morgoth to how we handled this, I am changing my TA to something designed to prevent a possible 3rd Tatts SO play (though if he has *both* Unveil Flagship and Make an Example there's not much I can do about it). I'll leave the previous version of the TA in the post so he can see what it was before.
						
						
						
					
					
						
					
				
				
						#1642
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:27 PM
	There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
					
				My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
				
						#1643
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:31 PM
						Like I said Drek, no plans to attack you unless in retaliation.
						
						
						
					
					
						
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						#1644
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:31 PM
						stares at the map for 30 minutes...
						
					
					
						
					
				
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						#1645
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:33 PM
						I'm more than willing to give up the 6 ct PO to get my Ceasefire back and go to town. 
Thoughts Blend?
Would you be willing to give me your SftT for a bit of Mentak bashing if she comes calling?
						
					
					
						Thoughts Blend?
Would you be willing to give me your SftT for a bit of Mentak bashing if she comes calling?
	Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
					
				
				
						#1646
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:34 PM
						It'll be the worst decision you've made this game Drek. I promise you.
						
						
						
					
					
						
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						#1647
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:36 PM
						You know what, it doesn't matter whether I change my TA or not.
Let's say Tatts wins his fight against Twelve handily (which is probable) and scores either Unveil Flagship or Make an Example of their World.
He has no more spare CTs to spend if he still wants to get the stage II PO, so the 3rd SO to reach 10 VP must be scored with that board state. The possible 3rd SOs he could score this round are then:
Control the Region -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Have 1 or more ships in 6 systems.
Monopolize Production -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Control 4 industrial planets.
Diversify the Empire -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Control 2 cultural planets, 2 industrial planets, and 2 hazardous planets.
I can take out an industrial planet with 1 action to stop 2 of those, and he can't afford to counter it without spending a CT. Maybe he has an action card to prevent it but nothing much I can do about that.
If he has Control the Region, well after the fight in Arinam/Meer he'll have 7 systems with ships, and I think I could hit 1 but not enough forces in range to go for two.
So my best bet is to just go for one industrial planet to block the 2 planet control ones and hope he doesn't have Control the Region. Even if I did two unlikely space battles trying to stop Control the Region, that's poor odds since there's 2 possible SOs I'd no longer be stopping by not going for an industrial planet.
Hence, I'll leave my posted turn as-is and still throw away the 2 cruisers vs Blend, do the industrial planet thing next turn, and leave it at that.
						
					
					
						
					
				Let's say Tatts wins his fight against Twelve handily (which is probable) and scores either Unveil Flagship or Make an Example of their World.
He has no more spare CTs to spend if he still wants to get the stage II PO, so the 3rd SO to reach 10 VP must be scored with that board state. The possible 3rd SOs he could score this round are then:
Control the Region -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Have 1 or more ships in 6 systems.
Monopolize Production -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Control 4 industrial planets.
Diversify the Empire -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Control 2 cultural planets, 2 industrial planets, and 2 hazardous planets.
I can take out an industrial planet with 1 action to stop 2 of those, and he can't afford to counter it without spending a CT. Maybe he has an action card to prevent it but nothing much I can do about that.
If he has Control the Region, well after the fight in Arinam/Meer he'll have 7 systems with ships, and I think I could hit 1 but not enough forces in range to go for two.
So my best bet is to just go for one industrial planet to block the 2 planet control ones and hope he doesn't have Control the Region. Even if I did two unlikely space battles trying to stop Control the Region, that's poor odds since there's 2 possible SOs I'd no longer be stopping by not going for an industrial planet.
Hence, I'll leave my posted turn as-is and still throw away the 2 cruisers vs Blend, do the industrial planet thing next turn, and leave it at that.
				
						#1648
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:37 PM
Tattersail_, on 09 December 2020 - 09:33 PM, said:
I'm more than willing to give up the 6 ct PO to get my Ceasefire back and go to town. 
Thoughts Blend?
Would you be willing to give me your SftT for a bit of Mentak bashing if she comes calling?
Thoughts Blend?
Would you be willing to give me your SftT for a bit of Mentak bashing if she comes calling?
Tattersail_, on 09 December 2020 - 09:34 PM, said:
It'll be the worst decision you've made this game Drek. I promise you.
Ha, where's this coming from all of a sudden?!
				
						#1649
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:38 PM
						I was in a happy bubble.  I told you I had the PN SO if someone else had it they'd shout it out. Too risky to lie.
						
						
						
					
					
						
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				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:39 PM
				
						#1651
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 09 December 2020 - 09:40 PM
						Well, anyhoo, I'm officially locking in my latest turn as the tactical action in Jol-Nar, as written. Everyone else has passed so it's back around to your turn, Tatts.
						
						
						
					
					
						
					
				
				
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				Posted 09 December 2020 - 10:10 PM
						Alrighty, everyone's passed, lots for Morgoth to resolve tomorrow morning!
						
						
						
					
					
						
					
				
				
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				Posted 09 December 2020 - 10:23 PM
						He could also have the 2 faction techs SO couldn't he? I assumed that's what he has and why he seems so confident.
						
						
						
					
					
				
				
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						#1655
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 10 December 2020 - 07:28 AM
						Here's to some luck
						
						
						
					
					
						
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						#1656
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 10 December 2020 - 01:12 PM
						Looks like everything went as predicted, no big surprises.
Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
						
					
					
						
					
				Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
				
						#1657
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 10 December 2020 - 01:29 PM
D, on 10 December 2020 - 01:12 PM, said:
Looks like everything went as predicted, no big surprises.
Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
I dont see how we vote on anything else. Wish I had a rider.
All my votes will definitely be going on FOR on the Wormhole Agenda.
	There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
					
				My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
				
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				Posted 10 December 2020 - 03:33 PM
D, on 10 December 2020 - 01:12 PM, said:
Looks like everything went as predicted, no big surprises.
Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
Agendas could blow up a war sun ooooooo
Counting on it actually so it clears the wormholes so Blend can take a stab at your homeworld so you dont win.
	I don't know what I'm doing but it sounds good.
					
				
				
						#1659
						
								
							  
								
						
					
				
				Posted 10 December 2020 - 03:35 PM
						It was also supposed to catch your flagship and Dreads but you had to go and move them too
						
						
						
					
					
						
	I don't know what I'm doing but it sounds good.
					
				
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