[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:12 PM, said:

We don't see the new PO until start of strategy phase. You're saying the guy with a monstrous fleet sat on MR has the ability to meet the same tech objectives as you but that's okay. The same guy who doesn't need a home system to score. Who has won 3 of the forum games. Who can grab politics and Imperial to win with this sort of scenario your saying.

Its 5050 on the tech or ships but if it hits ships no one gets tech and the one who can meet the objective with you will be hurt. If its tech then there are 2 other objectives which are scorable so doesn't matter too much.

YOu act like it would be easy for me to score the other objectives. You forget that I'm the fragile Jol-Nar - as demonstrated in this last round, there's very little I can actually do when races like the Sol want to prevent me from scoring things.

And IH has a huge fleet, yes, but he and I have been allied this game. Why is it my job to stop him? Instead of taking away the VPs I worked for, you should have maybe worried about dealing with the huge fleet on Mecatol, right?

This post has been edited by Blend: 18 November 2020 - 02:20 PM

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect Twelve will be voting against anyway.

Why would he do that?

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect Twelve will be voting against anyway.

Why would he do that?

Because of how fragile it'll make his War Sun system

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:12 PM, said:

We don't see the new PO until start of strategy phase. You're saying the guy with a monstrous fleet sat on MR has the ability to meet the same tech objectives as you but that's okay. The same guy who doesn't need a home system to score. Who has won 3 of the forum games. Who can grab politics and Imperial to win with this sort of scenario your saying.

Its 5050 on the tech or ships but if it hits ships no one gets tech and the one who can meet the objective with you will be hurt. If its tech then there are 2 other objectives which are scorable so doesn't matter too much.

YOu act like it would be easy for me to score the other objectives. You forget that I'm the fragile Jol-Nar - as demonstrated in this last round, there's very little I can actually do when races like the Sol want to prevent me from scoring things.

And IH has a huge fleet, yes, but he and I have been allied this game. Why is it my job to stop him? Instead of taking away the VPs I worked for, you should have maybe worried about dealing with the huge thread on Mecatol, right?

Well, if it comes to it you could help me with that.

That Fleet though is bad ass, and it'll only get stronger if left unchecked. Technically IH would just need to grow that fleet and snipe systems he wants.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:20 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect Twelve will be voting against anyway.

Why would he do that?

Because of how fragile it'll make his War Sun system

He already said he put his votes on FOR.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:20 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect Twelve will be voting against anyway.

Why would he do that?

Because of how fragile it'll make his War Sun system

He already said he put his votes on FOR.

What he says and what he does are different kettles of fish. He says For knowing your conflict and hopes you place against.

[Imperial Historian]

I'll vote with you on against blend if you want it to fail.

If the rex agenda passes the options are:
1. Everyone gets more tech - that means D'rek gets mirror computing sooner, twelve gets upgraded warsuns earlier - these are both gamechanging. The rest of us it doesn't make much difference
2. I lose my fleet, and D'rek gets minister of commerce AND most of my planets. At that point it's probably gg D'rek.

Tatts if you agree to not vote on the ixthian artifact agenda, I'll give you some votes so you can get minister of commerce.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:26 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:20 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect Twelve will be voting against anyway.

Why would he do that?

Because of how fragile it'll make his War Sun system

He already said he put his votes on FOR.

What he says and what he does are different kettles of fish. He says For knowing your conflict and hopes you place against.

Oh dear, please don't put the Jol-Nar in a kettle!!!

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 18 November 2020 - 02:41 PM, said:

I'll vote with you on against blend if you want it to fail.

If the rex agenda passes the options are:
1. Everyone gets more tech - that means D'rek gets mirror computing sooner, twelve gets upgraded warsuns earlier - these are both gamechanging. The rest of us it doesn't make much difference
2. I lose my fleet, and D'rek gets minister of commerce AND most of my planets. At that point it's probably gg D'rek.

Tatts if you agree to not vote on the ixthian artifact agenda, I'll give you some votes so you can get minister of commerce.

See, here is a reasonable way forward - I think ensuring Tatts ends up with Minister of Exploration would be the smarter path here.

[Tattersail_]

I'm not bothered about minister. I dont intend to gain more planets.

I think if people want those techs then they'll get those techs.

I said a way of ensuring you got minster Blend AND the vote passes For on Xinthian.

I don't know. Obviously IH really wants that agenda to go against and if you are willing Blend then you should be getting paid a lot. Like ALL of IHs PNs plus Dreks racial so you won't get looted.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'm not bothered about minister. I dont intend to gain more planets.

I think if people want those techs then they'll get those techs.

I said a way of ensuring you got minster Blend AND the vote passes For on Xinthian.

I don't know. Obviously IH really wants that agenda to go against and if you are willing Blend then you should be getting paid a lot. Like ALL of IHs PNs plus Dreks racial so you won't get looted.

Your way of thinking is super weird... So I should have IH pay me to have the vote go the way I want the vote to go?

[Blend]

Basically where we're at right now is Ixthian is going to go AGAINST.

Do you and Twelve want help to ensure Drek doesn't end up with Minister of Exploration or just don't give a shit if she gets it? Cause as IH has already pointed out, that's scarier than IH's fleet imo.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

Basically where we're at right now is Ixthian is going to go AGAINST.

Do you and Twelve want help to ensure Drek doesn't end up with Minister of Exploration or just don't give a shit if she gets it? Cause as IH has already pointed out, that's scarier than IH's fleet imo.

Think Blend. IH REALLY WANTS IT YO GO AGAINST, you are 60 40. Your votes can swing it one way or another. This is your turn to get something back.

I'm voting FOR on that first agenda, I nearly waivered then but it's a game changing decision. You vote against for some reason and GET nothing.

[Tattersail_]

IH objectively if you were Me Blend or Twelve and someone was SAAR with THAT fleet with this agenda where would you be voting? Be honest.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 18 November 2020 - 02:41 PM, said:

1. Everyone gets more tech - that means D'rek gets mirror computing sooner, twelve gets upgraded warsuns earlier - these are both gamechanging. The rest of us it doesn't make much difference

Pfft, sure, your giant deathball of ships getting Lightwave Deflector "isn't much difference", yeah right

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:57 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

Basically where we're at right now is Ixthian is going to go AGAINST.

Do you and Twelve want help to ensure Drek doesn't end up with Minister of Exploration or just don't give a shit if she gets it? Cause as IH has already pointed out, that's scarier than IH's fleet imo.

Think Blend. IH REALLY WANTS IT YO GO AGAINST, you are 60 40. Your votes can swing it one way or another. This is your turn to get something back.

I'm voting FOR on that first agenda, I nearly waivered then but it's a game changing decision. You vote against for some reason and GET nothing.

You're acting like I'm being more stubborn than you.

I've looked at the possibilities and frankly I don't think working against my ally is the way forward for me, and I certainly don't want everyone getting 2 free techs.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

IH objectively if you were Me Blend or Twelve and someone was SAAR with THAT fleet with this agenda where would you be voting? Be honest.

I'd be voting against. D'rek getting my planets unopposed or all that tech going out swings the game too much.

[D'rek]

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:57 PM, said:

Blend, on 18 November 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

Basically where we're at right now is Ixthian is going to go AGAINST.

Do you and Twelve want help to ensure Drek doesn't end up with Minister of Exploration or just don't give a shit if she gets it? Cause as IH has already pointed out, that's scarier than IH's fleet imo.

Think Blend. IH REALLY WANTS IT YO GO AGAINST, you are 60 40. Your votes can swing it one way or another. This is your turn to get something back.

I'm voting FOR on that first agenda, I nearly waivered then but it's a game changing decision. You vote against for some reason and GET nothing.

You're acting like I'm being more stubborn than you.

I've looked at the possibilities and frankly I don't think working against my ally is the way forward for me, and I certainly don't want everyone getting 2 free techs.

The question is, Blend, two more rounds from now when you're at 5 points and IH is at 8, still holding MR, twice as large of a fleet as he has now, what are you going to do about him then?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 18 November 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 November 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

IH objectively if you were Me Blend or Twelve and someone was SAAR with THAT fleet with this agenda where would you be voting? Be honest.

I'd be voting against. D'rek getting my planets unopposed or all that tech going out swings the game too much.

How so?

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 18 November 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 18 November 2020 - 02:41 PM, said:

1. Everyone gets more tech - that means D'rek gets mirror computing sooner, twelve gets upgraded warsuns earlier - these are both gamechanging. The rest of us it doesn't make much difference

Pfft, sure, your giant deathball of ships getting Lightwave Deflector "isn't much difference", yeah right

Ooh i could get lightwave deflector, ok that's a huge benefit for me too.