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#921 User is offline   twelve 

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 04:33 PM

View PostJazzarm, on 05 November 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 05 November 2019 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

This round has been taking really long. I feel like the stalling of leadership really slows game play down.
Everyone must make every move count.

Whoever has tech should stall it else only the Nekro will have any actions this round.


Whoever has trade should give the player holding tech, whoever it is, a free refresh to encourage stalling it a little longer.

Also, I'm interested in Mex this round, but I can give you some time to save your cruisers and spend Mex for Leadership before I make my move. Though I only have 1 tactics token so I can't wait forever.

Whattaya say, wanna bury this hatchet and make a deal?

I need a clear path back for my cruisers. With Morgoth and Nom's actions I have no where to go with them. If I had a way to get them back then I would be much more interested in said deal
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:13 PM

Twelve 1 tg for a free refresh?
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#923 User is offline   twelve 

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:30 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

Twelve 1 tg for a free refresh?

I already gave you my price for the refresh, use unstable planet on anyone but me, and since you keep ignoring me that tells me you are using that action card on me. So no as of now no refreah.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:46 PM

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This round has been taking really long. I feel like the stalling of leadership really slows game play down.
Everyone must make every move count.

Whoever has tech should stall it else only the Nekro will have any actions this round.


Whoever has trade should give the player holding tech, whoever it is, a free refresh to encourage stalling it a little longer.

Also, I'm interested in Mex this round, but I can give you some time to save your cruisers and spend Mex for Leadership before I make my move. Though I only have 1 tactics token so I can't wait forever.

Whattaya say, wanna bury this hatchet and make a deal?

I need a clear path back for my cruisers. With Morgoth and Nom's actions I have no where to go with them. If I had a way to get them back then I would be much more interested in said deal


Wasn't the A hole gonna be left open this round? That should give you a path back to Mehar Xul to save your cruisers and build some stuff. ...assuming you dodge the unstable planet there.
Even if the cruisers have to be written off, wouldn't you say 2 ct's is worth a refresh? I could even trade with you 2 for 2 while we're resolving the Mecatol activation.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:54 PM

We always leave the a hole open around these parts
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:55 PM

View Posttwelve, on 05 November 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

Twelve 1 tg for a free refresh?

I already gave you my price for the refresh, use unstable planet on anyone but me, and since you keep ignoring me that tells me you are using that action card on me. So no as of now no refreah.


Speaking of free refreshes any chance of one for me?
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 06:15 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 November 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 05 November 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

Twelve 1 tg for a free refresh?

I already gave you my price for the refresh, use unstable planet on anyone but me, and since you keep ignoring me that tells me you are using that action card on me. So no as of now no refreah.


Speaking of free refreshes any chance of one for me?


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 06:44 PM

View Posttwelve, on 05 November 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

Twelve 1 tg for a free refresh?

I already gave you my price for the refresh, use unstable planet on anyone but me, and since you keep ignoring me that tells me you are using that action card on me. So no as of now no refreah.


Hmm so if I do use it on you then that's 3 influence and 2 infantry exhausted. Plus Jazzarm taking Rex before you use it is another 6 influence.

How about the free refresh if I hold using the action card until my third turn? You will most likely get to exhaust the c planet then first.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 06:49 PM

Free refreshes boils down to if you voted for the Rex agenda and I dont have any deal for a free refresh you arent getting one.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 06:55 PM

So as of now Nom, Khell and D'rek are getting one. Tatts can get one if he agrees not to use his unstable planet on me whenever he uses it. Jazz might get one depending on if I can get my cruisers out before he attacks it. Any one else that want one please let me know why I should give you one and we can go from there.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 07:06 PM

If I pop that AC next turn Twelve it costs you a CT and 2 infantry. If I agree to wait until leadership is played then you gain the CT. So is that not worth the free refresh? You get to exhaust the planet.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 07:09 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

If I pop that AC next turn Twelve it costs you a CT and 2 infantry. If I agree to wait until leadership is played then you gain the CT. So is that not worth the free refresh? You get to exhaust the planet.

I'm fucked either way. Agree to use it on some one else or pay the CT for the refresh.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 08:02 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 05 November 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 05 November 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

@ Tatts:

Let's get our plans sorted, if we are going to make a deal, so we're not holding everyone up when my turn comes along. Here's my opening questions/offers.

1) What turn would you move to Lazar?

2) It's one carrier and one infantry only.

3) Lazar's not worth much resource-wise, but the wormhole and the yellow tech are notable, plus I'm ensuring you a VP, so how about your SftT?

4) Are you able to place a blocking ship in the alpha wormhole? This is as much for your and your neighbours' benefit as mine, as you're opening up some tasty targets for me should I ever decide to become aggressive.

5) @ Morgoth: how are we going to ensure you don't understandably take advantage of a new wormhole being placed? If you give the token to me next, I'll place it where you like (other than in my territory).

If we can't come to an agreement, then I will just be moving ships to defend my planets.


My SFTT is off the table as I see me swapping with the L1 in the coming future. However an Alpha wormhole would make you and Nom neighbours in a way which could see you swapping SFTT with him?

Moving to Lazar, without action cards, would require me to research gravity drive which I intend to do but would mean it would be late in the round if achievable.

I would not be able to block the alpha wormhole with a ship, and why would you want me to? You have access to Mec Rex that way or just to bolster your forward forces. Eventually I may be able to but I'm not going to have loads of moves.

I don't know what sort of payment I can offer but you will have moves before the decision is made. Maybe my trade agreement could be thrown into the bargain? I see you getting as much if not more benefit from the wormhole than me, you even asked Creuss for it towards the end of last round. There are a couple of other otpions I should look at though, Lazar is not the only planet available.


How many trade goods does your TA give you? And how seriously are you thinking of placing the wormhole somewhere else? Yes, I do need to know your intentions before I make any move because whatever we decide will have an impact on what moves I make this whole round. Leaving your move till late in the round is fine, if we can get an accord. TA is not the same as SftT when I’m helping you to a VP, but it might be a start to an agreement.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 08:55 PM

Does the warfare card activation end my turn ?

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 05 November 2019 - 09:07 PM

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 09:06 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 November 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

This round has been taking really long. I feel like the stalling of leadership really slows game play down.
Everyone must make every move count.


I think it's more that stage of the game where a lot of negotiations happen, and things become murkier.

On that subject did I miss your response on the 3 planet system?


What could I offer you , do you need a planet type I could give you ?
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 09:08 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Does the warfare card activation end my turn ?


Yes

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 09:18 PM

View PostD, on 05 November 2019 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Does the warfare card activation end my turn ?


Yes


Only time it wouldn't would be if you had Fleet Logistics and playing Warfare was your first of 2 potential actions per turn.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 10:00 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 09:06 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 November 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

This round has been taking really long. I feel like the stalling of leadership really slows game play down.
Everyone must make every move count.


I think it's more that stage of the game where a lot of negotiations happen, and things become murkier.

On that subject did I miss your response on the 3 planet system?


What could I offer you , do you need a planet type I could give you ?


I'm good for planets, I'd be interested in 3 trade goods, your trade PN. or your racial
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 10:01 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 05 November 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 November 2019 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 05 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Does the warfare card activation end my turn ?


Yes


Only time it wouldn't would be if you had Fleet Logistics and playing Warfare was your first of 2 potential actions per turn.


Yes. All Strategy Cards are played as an Action. You get 1 Action per turn, or if you have Fleet Logistics you may do 2 Actions in your turn.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 05 November 2019 - 10:06 PM

View Posttwelve, on 05 November 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

So as of now Nom, Khell and D'rek are getting one. Tatts can get one if he agrees not to use his unstable planet on me whenever he uses it. Jazz might get one depending on if I can get my cruisers out before he attacks it. Any one else that want one please let me know why I should give you one and we can go from there.


I can offer a 1 tg discount on a future deal for vefut, a free refresh when i take trade or 2 votes on one of the next agendas. Plus ny general neighbourliness, i am making you speaker next turn for a minimal fee.
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