[Khellendros]

D, on 21 January 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

twelve, on 21 January 2020 - 03:10 PM, said:

D, on 21 January 2020 - 02:53 PM, said:

I'm not sure why you think I won't just immediately retaliate, though, either against Silvano or against a lesser-defended planet of yours. Plus obviously I don't feel the need to remove the ships over your HW first turn now. Not sure how you expect to actually hold all these planets by the end of the round... or are you planning to buy me off after you take Silvano?

I fully expect you to but this is my only viable way to score a point this round. I did lead off with diplomatic overtures but it felt like you were ignoring me. If we can still come up with a peaceful way to resolve this I'm happy to discuss.

I wasn't ignoring you, I just couldn't get back online all yesterday evening :shrug: I'll have to look at the objectives and see if there's a way you can pay me for Silvano/not to retaliate that leads to me getting an objective too

But I already said fight fight fight

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 21 January 2020 - 03:36 PM, said:

D, on 21 January 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

twelve, on 21 January 2020 - 03:10 PM, said:

D, on 21 January 2020 - 02:53 PM, said:

I'm not sure why you think I won't just immediately retaliate, though, either against Silvano or against a lesser-defended planet of yours. Plus obviously I don't feel the need to remove the ships over your HW first turn now. Not sure how you expect to actually hold all these planets by the end of the round... or are you planning to buy me off after you take Silvano?

I fully expect you to but this is my only viable way to score a point this round. I did lead off with diplomatic overtures but it felt like you were ignoring me. If we can still come up with a peaceful way to resolve this I'm happy to discuss.

I wasn't ignoring you, I just couldn't get back online all yesterday evening :shrug: I'll have to look at the objectives and see if there's a way you can pay me for Silvano/not to retaliate that leads to me getting an objective too

But I already said fight fight fight

Pffft and how much fighting did you do recently Mr MakeCrazyDealsWithEverybodyForPoints

[D'rek]

@Tatts - are we doing a 3:3 swap on your turn?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 21 January 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:

@Tatts - are we doing a 3:3 swap on your turn?

Yes sure

[D'rek]

Very good

[ToasTer86]

Khellendros, on 21 January 2020 - 10:38 AM, said:

ToasTer86, on 21 January 2020 - 05:42 AM, said:

@the board I have 3 commodities open for swapping. Morgoth / nom inretested in trading or washing me ?

I think we still border, do you want to trade 2:2?

Cool cool. How about I give you 3 and you give me 2 commodities and 1TG

[Khellendros]

ToasTer86, on 21 January 2020 - 08:30 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 January 2020 - 10:38 AM, said:

ToasTer86, on 21 January 2020 - 05:42 AM, said:

@the board I have 3 commodities open for swapping. Morgoth / nom inretested in trading or washing me ?

I think we still border, do you want to trade 2:2?

Cool cool. How about I give you 3 and you give me 2 commodities and 1TG

Fine.

[Tattersail_]

I'm playing Politics next.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 21 January 2020 - 09:02 PM, said:

I'm playing Politics next.

Pick some fun agendas!

[Tattersail_]

I picked some good ones last time didn't I? Was that me?

[Tattersail_]

There was a VP one but I didn't benefit from it. It was either top or bottom in VP gets a VP. Something like that

[D'rek]

So....

[ToasTer86]

Tapper is up right ?
Or nom with warfare ?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 21 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 January 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

Sorry Tatts - I just find that you and I look at the same situation and read it in entirely different ways.
Fact is, you have a massive fleet next to my home world and on top of resources I controlled and want to control. I need that fleet gone one way or another.
Maybe I cut myself in the fingers by playing that action card, maybe not. For me, it was a way towards reducing your threat/options without having to attack straight of the bat.

Not that I welcome an attack it doesn't bother me if you do. I'd prefer a peaceful solution. If it was you from the start maybe you'd have locked down the SFTT early doors and we'd have an amicable relationship. It was Jazz who was starting to threaten maybe because his plans for Rex went awry or he couldn't catch a break. I'd prefer the ability to play this round on but you may force me to pass and take your chances. I don't know what else to offer you, as I'm not going to give stuff away. All I'd be doing is building and planning for the future rounds. You have options and bargaining power right now, use them, and come up with something that we may agree to. If not then let's play on.

I do think we'd probably be in a different situation if it had been me from the start, yeah. Unlikely that I'd have gone for Rex early - given how low on Influence the slice is, it is sort of a logical choice, but then, it is also sort of a trap, requiring constant investment.

[Tapper]

ToasTer86, on 23 January 2020 - 06:05 AM, said:

Tapper is up right ?
Or nom with warfare ?

I just acted

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 23 January 2020 - 08:01 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 January 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

Sorry Tatts - I just find that you and I look at the same situation and read it in entirely different ways.
Fact is, you have a massive fleet next to my home world and on top of resources I controlled and want to control. I need that fleet gone one way or another.
Maybe I cut myself in the fingers by playing that action card, maybe not. For me, it was a way towards reducing your threat/options without having to attack straight of the bat.

Not that I welcome an attack it doesn't bother me if you do. I'd prefer a peaceful solution. If it was you from the start maybe you'd have locked down the SFTT early doors and we'd have an amicable relationship. It was Jazz who was starting to threaten maybe because his plans for Rex went awry or he couldn't catch a break. I'd prefer the ability to play this round on but you may force me to pass and take your chances. I don't know what else to offer you, as I'm not going to give stuff away. All I'd be doing is building and planning for the future rounds. You have options and bargaining power right now, use them, and come up with something that we may agree to. If not then let's play on.

I do think we'd probably be in a different situation if it had been me from the start, yeah. Unlikely that I'd have gone for Rex early - given how low on Influence the slice is, it is sort of a logical choice, but then, it is also sort of a trap, requiring constant investment.

So given your latest move, you have no plans to negotiate?

[Tattersail_]

Nom's turn

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 23 January 2020 - 08:49 AM, said:

Tapper, on 23 January 2020 - 08:01 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 January 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

Sorry Tatts - I just find that you and I look at the same situation and read it in entirely different ways.
Fact is, you have a massive fleet next to my home world and on top of resources I controlled and want to control. I need that fleet gone one way or another.
Maybe I cut myself in the fingers by playing that action card, maybe not. For me, it was a way towards reducing your threat/options without having to attack straight of the bat.

Not that I welcome an attack it doesn't bother me if you do. I'd prefer a peaceful solution. If it was you from the start maybe you'd have locked down the SFTT early doors and we'd have an amicable relationship. It was Jazz who was starting to threaten maybe because his plans for Rex went awry or he couldn't catch a break. I'd prefer the ability to play this round on but you may force me to pass and take your chances. I don't know what else to offer you, as I'm not going to give stuff away. All I'd be doing is building and planning for the future rounds. You have options and bargaining power right now, use them, and come up with something that we may agree to. If not then let's play on.

I do think we'd probably be in a different situation if it had been me from the start, yeah. Unlikely that I'd have gone for Rex early - given how low on Influence the slice is, it is sort of a logical choice, but then, it is also sort of a trap, requiring constant investment.

So given your latest move, you have no plans to negotiate?

Talks are always possible, but I am very unlikely to play Leadership before Diplo and you made clear you need Leadership to move out of A/F.
Even if Diplo comes now, I may want to play an action card first. In addition, your Trade Agreement is worth little this turn, given that trade is already played. As such, there's still time to talk and agree something, but I am not going to let you hurry me into doing something that suits your agenda whether we agree war or peace without giving me the same benefits.

[Itwæs Nom]

Minor errands be here shortly not playing diplo

[Tattersail_]

Now you've moved that carrier Tapper, I may just create some fireworks. This is what pretending to negotiate gets you. Stalling to force me to pass. Well say goodbye to your biggest army. Good job you saved those TG's, at least you can rebuild.

I'm torn, either I make my move first, or let you make your move and retaliate. Right now my provisional is on Lodd Eru.