[Prazec Goul]

Sheltatha Lore, on 20 August 2019 - 12:02 AM, said:

For the record:

My vote on Rikkter was a prod to see how he would react. It was Day 1, and until Rikkter got going, there was not much to work with.



As for today, I agree with one sentiment Rikkter is expressing: feelings or someone's statement of innocence does not PI a player. Just because one likes Barghast's posting style and reasoning does not make them town. Just because someone says they heal someone and that someone doesn't die does not prove innocence. We will lose this game on such assumptions.

So sure, let's try lynching me today. I will tell you exactly what I will turn up as before I die, and then I hope you all will listen to what I say and start thinking outside the time-old "scummy play" theory.

Well wouldn't the CF tell us that or are you hoping to do a last minute reveal to save your skin?

[Prazec Goul]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

Motato? Is that supposed to be a tomato? Or a potato? Who the fuck knows?

Oh right, Pete knows. But who the fuck cares?

You do. But when you don't even know what you're yourself, how can you tell who the fuck is Peat?

It is Day 1. The clock has been frozen with 36 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

The opening is weird. There is no more RP since this. Didn't GP claim to have "tomato" instead of the RI "motato"? This would have to be really clever now to pull a no-kill fake reveal and support it by claiming "tomato" - I can see this wording from P-S as a clue to roled town, but it's a stretch. At the same time GP didn't make a big deal out of it, meaning if he wasn't paying attention to the opening, it's probably from his PM.

Then Pete/Peat. Names of the killers? I have nothing on this. The only reason I think this is even worth mentioning is GP's reveal.

I did have to go back and read OP as I never do. Only a 10 player game, so I doubt more than one role, but Sheltatha is now hinting at one. If that was the cased then there has to be symp otherwise town are over powered.




Ignoring mechanics a second, I cannot get to grips with everyone pointing fingers everywhere, if we are to lynch then we need some common ground. I understand killers will be distancing and trying to muddy waters as much as possible.




Look at the back and forth with Barghast and Sheltatha, but now Kilava is Barghast top choice even though he is voting Sheltatha, Gamelon is avoiding both players and looking at Gait and Rikkter, Rikkter wants to lynch the healer even though he thinks I am going to die at night, theirs no coherence. The thread has exploded multiple ways.

[Prazec Goul]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

Motato? Is that supposed to be a tomato? Or a potato? Who the fuck knows?

Oh right, Pete knows. But who the fuck cares?

You do. But when you don't even know what you're yourself, how can you tell who the fuck is Peat?

It is Day 1. The clock has been frozen with 36 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

The opening is weird. There is no more RP since this. Didn't GP claim to have "tomato" instead of the RI "motato"? This would have to be really clever now to pull a no-kill fake reveal and support it by claiming "tomato" - I can see this wording from P-S as a clue to roled town, but it's a stretch. At the same time GP didn't make a big deal out of it, meaning if he wasn't paying attention to the opening, it's probably from his PM.

Then Pete/Peat. Names of the killers? I have nothing on this. The only reason I think this is even worth mentioning is GP's reveal.

I took peat as a typo, but you may be on to something. Pete and Peat are the killers, but if GL was a tomato...

If he were roled town I don't think Mess would have given up so easy. So more likely a symp. I need to reread day 1 and 2 to see if he tried any signaling.

GL was a motato not a tomato

Path-Shaper, on 16 August 2019 - 04:21 AM, said:

As of this post

Rikkter, on 16 August 2019 - 01:51 AM, said:

OK, I'm done. If not for GL, I probably would have wanted to pursue Prazec's dodginess. But, I will be asleep at timeout, and I think this lynch needs to happen.

vote Galayn Lord

It is Day 2. 9 hours and 4 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Gait, Galayn Lord, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Gamelon, Kilava, Barghast, Prazec Goul, Venesara

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

5 Votes for Galayn Lord ( Venesara, Sheltatha Lore, Galayn Lord, Gait, Rikkter )
1 Vote for Prazec Goul ( Gamelon )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Barghast )
1 Vote for Gamelon ( Kilava )

Galayn Lord has been lynched.
They were Messremb and a motato.

[Prazec Goul]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 03:45 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 14 August 2019 - 10:17 PM, said:

After reading up I think Rikkter would be a good vote. I've got good vibes from Ven, Sheltatha, Gait and Barghast for different reasons. I'll explain further tomorrow. Bad vibes from Kilava, Rikkter, Galayn Lord and Gamelon.

Okay to expand on that, I don't like Kilavas defense of Rikkter at all but maybe they've muddied things on purpose. All this arguing on thread back and forth yet, even though present, it feels like Gamelon and Galayn Lord didn't join in. Killers letting us argue amongst ourselves?

Like I said I'll read up and try to expand my thoughts further tomorrow.

There is the quote I was looking for. We all hated on this post originally but if reveal is true then something is going on. In particular I agree about Gamelon remaining distant; he also uses it later to accuse PG of being a killer in his sarcastic tone.

going to jump ahead --

Gamelon, on 19 August 2019 - 04:40 PM, said:

And to just add a bit on Sheltatha, as that already seems to be the way the thread is going: I don't know. They could very easily turn out to be scum, and I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know if there's one thing I could currently point to as definitive in the way that Prazec seems convinced. That's my hot take for now.

Gamelon, on 19 August 2019 - 04:47 PM, said:

Imagine if Gait was lynched before showing up and then turned out to be a killer. How amazing would that have looked for Rikkter? Enough to allow them to coast through the rest of the game?
Edit: Added question mark

Rikkter, on 19 August 2019 - 11:50 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 19 August 2019 - 04:47 PM, said:

Imagine if Gait was lynched before showing up and then turned out to be a killer. How amazing would that have looked for Rikkter? Enough to allow them to coast through the rest of the game?
Edit: Added question mark

Even I am not that brilliant dude. My reasoning was always better a lynch than a modkill, which I gave up on once PS told us he had subs in the wings.

Wow this reads like killers just stroking dicks on thread.

After the suspicion of Rikkter is remembered, Gamelon brushes it off and gives him a pat on the back. We all know you get a free pass if you escape a D1 lynch like this. But you're keeping it in our heads - we tried before and failed, not again!!

Killer 1: Hey, remember how we've been distancing and saying killers would distance?

Killer 2: Yeah yeah.

Killer 1: OK now...let's do the opposite!


But this post is kind of a big deal for me. I see Gamelon/Rikkter - Rikkter dominates thread on d1 while everything stalls.... Gamelon stays distant on d1, drive-by vote - the only thing he stops to do is defend Rikkter.

Gamelon, on 15 August 2019 - 09:09 AM, said:

The sarcasm holds a serious and valid point, which you interestingly totally skip over and latch only on to the bit about Gait. Noted, thanks Venesara.

As for the Rikkter case, it feels like all of you (including Rikkter) are blowing it out of proportion. I've read over it and I just don't see why you are getting so excited.

No vote and an empty but good looking defense of Rikkter...

For now I will

Vote Gamelon

Largely because of the above, but Gam's voting has been seriously off too.

I would vote Rikkter but he is polarizing and I don't know if we have the votes (or I'd switch). I voted Gam because he is slowly but surely trying to steer us away from voting Rikkter. Rikkter has calmed down considerably and that might be enough to escape the lynch.

Also Gamelon is just clearly scum.

I could see Gamelon steering us away from Sheltatha/Barghast as they are the highest two likely for the lynch today, I don't see Rikkter as scum at the moment for reasons recently stated.

[Prazec Goul]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 03:48 AM, said:

Also I think I fucked up my time estimate by like 12 hours. ...yeahhh. ... Friends don't let friends play Mafia sober.

Will you be around towards end of day now?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 7 hours and 10 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Barghast, Gait, Gamelon, Kilava, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Gamelon ( Venesara )
3 Votes for Sheltatha Lore ( Prazec Goul, Gait, Barghast )
1 Vote for Prazec Goul ( Rikkter )
2 Votes for Barghast ( Sheltatha Lore, Kilava )

Players not voted: Gamelon

[Barghast]

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

Motato? Is that supposed to be a tomato? Or a potato? Who the fuck knows?

Oh right, Pete knows. But who the fuck cares?

You do. But when you don't even know what you're yourself, how can you tell who the fuck is Peat?

It is Day 1. The clock has been frozen with 36 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

The opening is weird. There is no more RP since this. Didn't GP claim to have "tomato" instead of the RI "motato"? This would have to be really clever now to pull a no-kill fake reveal and support it by claiming "tomato" - I can see this wording from P-S as a clue to roled town, but it's a stretch. At the same time GP didn't make a big deal out of it, meaning if he wasn't paying attention to the opening, it's probably from his PM.

Then Pete/Peat. Names of the killers? I have nothing on this. The only reason I think this is even worth mentioning is GP's reveal.

I did have to go back and read OP as I never do. Only a 10 player game, so I doubt more than one role, but Sheltatha is now hinting at one. If that was the cased then there has to be symp otherwise town are over powered.




Ignoring mechanics a second, I cannot get to grips with everyone pointing fingers everywhere, if we are to lynch then we need some common ground. I understand killers will be distancing and trying to muddy waters as much as possible.




Look at the back and forth with Barghast and Sheltatha, but now Kilava is Barghast top choice even though he is voting Sheltatha, Gamelon is avoiding both players and looking at Gait and Rikkter, Rikkter wants to lynch the healer even though he thinks I am going to die at night, theirs no coherence. The thread has exploded multiple ways.

If you want common ground, then the most obvious thread to follow is the Galayn lynch train. You said yourself you're 100% sure there's a killer there. And that leaves only Rikkter, Gait, and Sheltatha as options for today. We can also compare this with the Rikkter train from D1: Sheltatha Lore, Venesara, Barghast, Gait, Kilava.

Three people overlap: Sheltatha, Gait, Venesara. Ven is the most unlikely scum on thread right now, so if we follow the train tracks, we are left with Sheltatha and Gait.

[Prazec Goul]

My vote is on Sheltatha and I stand by it. There's been loads of interactions today to see where people stand. The other person I'd want to lynch at this moment is Gamelon as they seem to want to distant themselves from a Shel lynch as much as possible. Possibly knowing their CF and wanting to smell like roses.

[Gamelon]

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

Motato? Is that supposed to be a tomato? Or a potato? Who the fuck knows?

Oh right, Pete knows. But who the fuck cares?

You do. But when you don't even know what you're yourself, how can you tell who the fuck is Peat?

It is Day 1. The clock has been frozen with 36 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

The opening is weird. There is no more RP since this. Didn't GP claim to have "tomato" instead of the RI "motato"? This would have to be really clever now to pull a no-kill fake reveal and support it by claiming "tomato" - I can see this wording from P-S as a clue to roled town, but it's a stretch. At the same time GP didn't make a big deal out of it, meaning if he wasn't paying attention to the opening, it's probably from his PM.

Then Pete/Peat. Names of the killers? I have nothing on this. The only reason I think this is even worth mentioning is GP's reveal.

I did have to go back and read OP as I never do. Only a 10 player game, so I doubt more than one role, but Sheltatha is now hinting at one. If that was the cased then there has to be symp otherwise town are over powered.




Ignoring mechanics a second, I cannot get to grips with everyone pointing fingers everywhere, if we are to lynch then we need some common ground. I understand killers will be distancing and trying to muddy waters as much as possible.




Look at the back and forth with Barghast and Sheltatha, but now Kilava is Barghast top choice even though he is voting Sheltatha, Gamelon is avoiding both players and looking at Gait and Rikkter, Rikkter wants to lynch the healer even though he thinks I am going to die at night, theirs no coherence. The thread has exploded multiple ways.

So you missed the post right above this where I said Gait, Kilava or Barghast for me today?

I don’t really understand what Sheltatha is saying about telling us what they are before they die. If it is a role reveal then they should totally be lynched to confirm, because no way there are two town roles in this game. If it turns out they’re telling the truth then Prazec is next.

[Prazec Goul]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

Motato? Is that supposed to be a tomato? Or a potato? Who the fuck knows?

Oh right, Pete knows. But who the fuck cares?

You do. But when you don't even know what you're yourself, how can you tell who the fuck is Peat?

It is Day 1. The clock has been frozen with 36 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

The opening is weird. There is no more RP since this. Didn't GP claim to have "tomato" instead of the RI "motato"? This would have to be really clever now to pull a no-kill fake reveal and support it by claiming "tomato" - I can see this wording from P-S as a clue to roled town, but it's a stretch. At the same time GP didn't make a big deal out of it, meaning if he wasn't paying attention to the opening, it's probably from his PM.

Then Pete/Peat. Names of the killers? I have nothing on this. The only reason I think this is even worth mentioning is GP's reveal.

I did have to go back and read OP as I never do. Only a 10 player game, so I doubt more than one role, but Sheltatha is now hinting at one. If that was the cased then there has to be symp otherwise town are over powered.




Ignoring mechanics a second, I cannot get to grips with everyone pointing fingers everywhere, if we are to lynch then we need some common ground. I understand killers will be distancing and trying to muddy waters as much as possible.




Look at the back and forth with Barghast and Sheltatha, but now Kilava is Barghast top choice even though he is voting Sheltatha, Gamelon is avoiding both players and looking at Gait and Rikkter, Rikkter wants to lynch the healer even though he thinks I am going to die at night, theirs no coherence. The thread has exploded multiple ways.

So you missed the post right above this where I said Gait, Kilava or Barghast for me today?

I don't really understand what Sheltatha is saying about telling us what they are before they die. If it is a role reveal then they should totally be lynched to confirm, because no way there are two town roles in this game. If it turns out they're telling the truth then Prazec is next.

Yet you had suspicions about Rikkter although they are not in your list, I don't know why you think any of them is scummy. So Sheltatha hints at a reveal, does this put you on edge? Turn your head slightly? You're very ambiguous.

[Prazec Goul]

I don't know why "YOU" think any of them is scummy by the by,as I have my thoughts as to why.

[Prazec Goul]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 07:58 AM, said:

So if I'm ruling out PG, Ven, Rikkter out for now, then Gait, Barghast, Kilava, Sheltatha have two killers among them. I admit that Kilava has entirely passed me by, I cannot remember a single thing about them other than...Barghast(?) had a hard on for them, or vice versa. I don't get scum vibes from Sheltatha.

See, why are you omitting Sheltatha from who you would vote today?




have you formed any links between players and actions?




From my point of view there are these options;

You are scum, your partner is not one of the 4 mentioned. By omitting Sheltatha from your suspects you are creating wifom to whether or not they are your partner.

You are scum, Shel is your partner, you want to lynch elsewhere.

You are scum, Kilava is your partner and is why they are the last person on your list

You are town? Then why not consider Shel as scum, what is your beef with Gait? Why do you not think Rikkter could be scum?

You are town yet you cannot remember a big argument or back and forth with Kilava on day 1?

Is there other options here? Help me understand.

[Rikkter]

I’m drunk maybe icvhangemy votembyt now would be bad

[Rikkter]

Prazec and Barg seem to be running the show

[Prazec Goul]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:

Prazec and Barg seem to be running the show

How long have you been drinking for at the moment?

Here's a cup of coffee to help sharpen those thoughts

[Prazec Goul]

You are the second highest poster Rikkter, followed by Kilava. I asked Gamelon some questions as they were heading out on holiday for a week. Other than me, who else would you like to lynch and why?

[Gait]

Barghast, on 19 August 2019 - 11:16 PM, said:

There seems to have been a vague agreement before that there would have been scum on the Galayn train.

[...]


If we're gonna pursue someone from the Galayn train, I'm definitely most comfortable with Sheltatha. I maintain their conversation with Kilava on D1 looked like distancing, and that I have a much stronger case on Kilava. Gamelon is bad vibes too so I will follow up shortly with a second post focused on these two.

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 12:14 AM, said:

but I can't deny the logic of scum being on Galayn train, and Sheltatha sounds like the most likely person there to be a killer.

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

If you want common ground, then the most obvious thread to follow is the Galayn lynch train. You said yourself you're 100% sure there's a killer there. And that leaves only Rikkter, Gait, and Sheltatha as options for today. We can also compare this with the Rikkter train from D1: Sheltatha Lore, Venesara, Barghast, Gait, Kilava.

Three people overlap: Sheltatha, Gait, Venesara. Ven is the most unlikely scum on thread right now, so if we follow the train tracks, we are left with Sheltatha and Gait.

I find these posts dubious. The train idea is pure theory speculation. It's thin air, especially with a self-vote and a fast lynch. Indeed, when PG voted Shel he didn't at all refer to this line of reasoning but rather to people's concrete on thread behaviour. You think this logic is that strong?

What really rubs me the wrong way is that it looks like it's already sowing the seeds for tomorrow. Just got to "follow the train tracks". Suppose Barg is scum and his partner is not on the train; isn't this exactly the idea you'd want town to focus on?

Edit: name mixup

This post has been edited by Gait: 20 August 2019 - 11:27 AM

[Gamelon]

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 09:30 AM, said:

I don't know why "YOU" think any of them is scummy by the by,as I have my thoughts as to why.

Mostly because I’ve eliminated everyone else. So they are who remains. I think Barghast has said a lot but nothing that’s actually helped go anywhere. I maintain the Galayn Lord train was bullshit and anyone who thought that was a good lynch to go with was silly or scummy.

Kilava I remember almost nothing about, other than their wrestling with Barghast, which has also gone nowhere.

Gait because he’s the only person on the GL train who I haven’t eliminated from my thoughts. And, if I can be meta for a minute, PS came on to tell us that Gait could be replaced with another player of they didn’t show up, perhaps suggesting that they have a critical role.

[Gait]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 07:50 AM, said:

Nah, I wasn't around at all and missed the timeout. As I said, that 4th vote cam with 10 minutes left, and even if you had jumped on that still wouldn't have been a lynch.

Kilava was also clearly around (and even voted).

[Barghast]

@Gait: of course it's speculation. What is not speculation at this stage? Only concrete facts we have are voting patterns (so, trains) and CFs.