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Posted 18 July 2019 - 01:57 PM

Though I guess Tapper has said he'd be happy to vote AGAINST in exchange for Tatts' votes on FOR on the first agenda... So that changes the math a little.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 01:58 PM

Tapper I will place all my votes on For for the first agenda, hoping you'll go against on the second. We'll see what happens.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 02:07 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:

Tapper I will place all my votes on For for the first agenda, hoping you'll go against on the second. We'll see what happens.


Hmmm, let's do the math on that...

If you and I vote FOR on the first agenda, and Nom votes AGAINST, then Twelve votes FOR on the second agenda, and Tapper votes AGAINST, we would be here:

First agenda - 16 votes FOR, 11 votes AGAINST
Second agenda - 10 votes FOR, 8 votes AGAINST

In this case, Drek could sway either of the votes to go whichever way she wants...

So yeah, basically it will all likely come down to whatever Drek decides she wants to do.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 02:15 PM

You guys ruined the Ixthian agenda with riders booooooooooooooooooo

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 02:20 PM

I dunno what I'm gonna vote, but when I do figure it out I'm still not going to tell you all, so no sense waiting on me. All options are bad.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 02:33 PM

View PostD, on 18 July 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:

You guys ruined the Ixthian agenda with riders booooooooooooooooooo

Hey if you want me to risk losing my Warsun I want to get paid for the experience.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 02:48 PM

To be fair Twelve you have a good deal, you could end up with a VP, your war sun in tact and 2 technologies. That'd be some agenda phase for you.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 03:10 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

To be fair Twelve you have a good deal, you could end up with a VP, your war sun in tact and 2 technologies. That'd be some agenda phase for you.


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Posted 18 July 2019 - 03:12 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

To be fair Twelve you have a good deal, you could end up with a VP, your war sun in tact and 2 technologies. That'd be some agenda phase for you.

Well this is me. My luck isn't very good when it comes to this game. I'm still salty about D'rek's carrier last game.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 03:37 PM

Another quick question regards the first agenda.

If FOR wins, and the roll is a 1-5, it says we destroy 3 units in each system surrounding MR.

I assume those units will be chosen at random? I ask because Tapper and I both have units in Starpoint/New Albion - does that mean we both lose 3 units in that system, or just 3 units chosen randomly amongst all the units in that system? Doesn't really matter for anyone else.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 03:47 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 July 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Another quick question regards the first agenda.

If FOR wins, and the roll is a 1-5, it says we destroy 3 units in each system surrounding MR.

I assume those units will be chosen at random? I ask because Tapper and I both have units in Starpoint/New Albion - does that mean we both lose 3 units in that system, or just 3 units chosen randomly amongst all the units in that system? Doesn't really matter for anyone else.


I would presume you have the choice which units die, when units are destroyed players usually choose which units are destroyed/where hits are targeted. There is no mechanism for randomly selecting units to be hit/destroyed.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 03:56 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 July 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 July 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Another quick question regards the first agenda.

If FOR wins, and the roll is a 1-5, it says we destroy 3 units in each system surrounding MR.

I assume those units will be chosen at random? I ask because Tapper and I both have units in Starpoint/New Albion - does that mean we both lose 3 units in that system, or just 3 units chosen randomly amongst all the units in that system? Doesn't really matter for anyone else.


I would presume you have the choice which units die, when units are destroyed players usually choose which units are destroyed/where hits are targeted. There is no mechanism for randomly selecting units to be hit/destroyed.


So then how do you decide whose units die in a system that has two players' units?
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 04:03 PM

I looked it up and our text is wrong. The real agenda text is:

FOR: The speaker rolls 1 die. If the result is 6-10, each player may research 2 technologies. If the result is 1-5, destroy all units in Mecatol Rex's system, and each player with units in systems adjacent to Mecatol Rex's system destroys 3 of his units in each of those systems.
AGAINST: No effect.

And yes, the player gets to choose which units are destroyed.

We've had some other ACs/agendas that the wording wasn't quite right on in the last few games, too. When I set up the lists for the first game I copied them from an excel sheet someone had posted online, and it seems more and more like that excel sheet was them rewriting them from memory or something like that, not the literal text of the actual official cards.

Agenda album here if someone is bored and wants to go through all of them some day: https://imgur.com/a/oKwl7

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 04:04 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 18 July 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:

@Tapper I'll likely not be using your pn this round regardless of the outcome

Cool. If the Rider gives me one or two Play as an action AC, I am trending towards selecting Politics, which would make you the best target for Speaker the round after.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 04:17 PM

View PostD, on 18 July 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

I looked it up and our text is wrong. The real agenda text is:

FOR: The speaker rolls 1 die. If the result is 6-10, each player may research 2 technologies. If the result is 1-5, destroy all units in Mecatol Rex's system, and each player with units in systems adjacent to Mecatol Rex's system destroys 3 of his units in each of those systems.
AGAINST: No effect.

And yes, the player gets to choose which units are destroyed.

We've had some other ACs/agendas that the wording wasn't quite right on in the last few games, too. When I set up the lists for the first game I copied them from an excel sheet someone had posted online, and it seems more and more like that excel sheet was them rewriting them from memory or something like that, not the literal text of the actual official cards.

Agenda album here if someone is bored and wants to go through all of them some day: https://imgur.com/a/oKwl7


Ah, wonderful, that clears it up quite well!

Alright, I can probably take the time to update our Agendas list at some point - work has been pretty dead lately!
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 06:11 PM

Tatts, which Dread goes boom?


Tapper, roll a 10 sided die and post results in game thread please.
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 06:13 PM

I voted on Arms Reduction Gnaw
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 06:14 PM

Doesn't seem to change anything anyway though
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 06:15 PM

And as much as I hate to say it I exhausted Meer too in the end, but I can see how that could be confusing
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Posted 18 July 2019 - 06:16 PM

Aaaand are we really gonna have to wait for Tapper now
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