[twelve]

Gnaw, I think you missed D'reks racial where she put a dude on Zohbat.

[Galactic Council]

Tattersail_, on 17 July 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

How does inheritance systems work with it?

Do I get to use it once on one of the techs then refresh it at the end?

That is a good question! I assume you are allowed to use it on one of the tech researches, but the rules only say that planets are readied at the end of the agenda phase, so I assume it would remain exhausted throughout the next round.

I've posted both yours and my questions on Reddit's TI4 group to see what others might think as I haven't been able to find a response to either question via Google yet.

[Hugin & Munin]

twelve, on 17 July 2019 - 11:08 PM, said:

Gnaw, I think you missed D'reks racial where she put a dude on Zohbat.

Fixed.

Fixed your CTs as well Twelve. Any other mistakes?

[Galactic Council]

Hugin & Munin, on 17 July 2019 - 10:38 PM, said:

Map updated to here.

twelve, on 17 July 2019 - 11:08 PM, said:

Gnaw, I think you missed D'reks racial where she put a dude on Zohbat.

Fixed.

Fixed your CTs as well Twelve. Any other mistakes?

Speaker token should be on me.

[D'rek]

Hugin & Munin, on 17 July 2019 - 10:37 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 17 July 2019 - 10:35 PM, said:

For the research 2 techs agenda, if I don't vote with a planet that has a pre-req, can I exhaust it during agenda phase to use its pre-req, then ready it at end of agenda phase with the rest?

I *think* so. D’rek would be the source for that one.



Map updated again.

Tattersail_, on 17 July 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

How does inheritance systems work with it?

Do I get to use it once on one of the techs then refresh it at the end?

Yes and yes.

Basically:

1. End of Status Phase: Ready all your (planet) cards

2. During Agenda Phase: you can exhaust your planets for votes OR to use as tech specialties OR to use for resources/influence (such as spending resources on inheritance systems). It's just like exhausting them during the action phase, except the added option of exhausting for votes.

3. End of Agenda Phase: Ready all your (planet) cards (again)


Note that for inheritance systems since you exhaust the card you would only get to use it for one of the Ixthian researches.

[D'rek]

Galactic Council, on 17 July 2019 - 11:17 PM, said:

but the rules only say that planets are readied at the end of the agenda phase, so I assume it would remain exhausted throughout the next round.

Oh interesting, I've never noticed that!

[Galactic Council]

D, on 18 July 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

Galactic Council, on 17 July 2019 - 11:17 PM, said:

but the rules only say that planets are readied at the end of the agenda phase, so I assume it would remain exhausted throughout the next round.

Oh interesting, I've never noticed that!

Yep, seems like people on Reddit agree, as well, that Inheritance Systems would remain exhausted until the next status phase as only planets are readied as part of the agenda phase.

[Hugin & Munin]

I’m not saying that Tapper has any ACs that might affect your voting but we’re not continuing until we get his status update.

This post has been edited by Hugin & Munin: 18 July 2019 - 02:53 AM

[Tapper]

Nom, our trade of PNs was conditional on me settling Mehar Xull. I haven't. I'm fine with the exchange, but I am not going to exchange my Trade Agreement or SFtT before that happens.

[Hugin & Munin]

Agenda Phase is open! Vote early, vote often!

[Tattersail_]

Tapper and Twelve would you vote against on the second agenda?

I'll vote For for the first agenda to push your riders or the other way if you'd like.

[Tattersail_]

D'rek if Blend and Nom both vote against on the first agenda that means we'd both need to put all our votes on For if we wanted to draw level. That's if you don't mind Twelve getting a VP and Tapper gaining speaker token. Maybe the cost is too high?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

D'rek if Blend and Nom both vote against on the first agenda that means we'd both need to put all our votes on For if we wanted to draw level. That's if you don't mind Twelve getting a VP and Tapper gaining speaker token. Maybe the cost is too high?

Nom does not have to vote against per se. If FOR passes, regardless of outcome, he could decide to cash in on my racial PN and take the Strategy I select.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 18 July 2019 - 08:30 AM

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 18 July 2019 - 08:29 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

D'rek if Blend and Nom both vote against on the first agenda that means we'd both need to put all our votes on For if we wanted to draw level. That's if you don't mind Twelve getting a VP and Tapper gaining speaker token. Maybe the cost is too high?

Nom does not have to vote against per se. If FOR passes, regardless of outcome, he could decide to cash in on my racial PN and take the Strategy I select.

I'll vote for in the first agenda, can I count on some of your votes in the second agenda to go against?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 08:42 AM, said:

Tapper, on 18 July 2019 - 08:29 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

D'rek if Blend and Nom both vote against on the first agenda that means we'd both need to put all our votes on For if we wanted to draw level. That's if you don't mind Twelve getting a VP and Tapper gaining speaker token. Maybe the cost is too high?

Nom does not have to vote against per se. If FOR passes, regardless of outcome, he could decide to cash in on my racial PN and take the Strategy I select.

I'll vote for in the first agenda, can I count on some of your votes in the second agenda to go against?

I'd be happy to, unless someone makes a much better offer.

[Galactic Council]

It is still early game, and despite the Starpoint/New Albion thing, I dont hold any major animosity towards Tapper, so I wouldnt mind taking a chance on a FOR vote on the first agenda. All it does is bump me to second in line for strategy choice anyway.

Nom/Drek, thoughts?

[Tattersail_]

Galactic Council, on 18 July 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

It is still early game, and despite the Starpoint/New Albion thing, I dont hold any major animosity towards Tapper, so I wouldnt mind taking a chance on a FOR vote on the first agenda. All it does is bump me to second in line for strategy choice anyway.

Nom/Drek, thoughts?

It also means you could be considered speaker next round.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 07:29 AM, said:

Tapper and Twelve would you vote against on the second agenda?

I'll vote For for the first agenda to push your riders or the other way if you'd like.

I'm voting For on the arms reduction. Slowing the L1Z1X down is a good thing just like blowing up my Warsun is for everyone else.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 18 July 2019 - 12:02 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 July 2019 - 07:29 AM, said:

Tapper and Twelve would you vote against on the second agenda?

I'll vote For for the first agenda to push your riders or the other way if you'd like.

I'm voting For on the arms reduction. Slowing the L1Z1X down is a good thing just like blowing up my Warsun is for everyone else.

You are ruthless in both games, what's happened to the nice Twelve?

[Itwæs Nom]

@Tapper I'll likely not be using your pn this round regardless of the outcome