Biggest disappointment is they forgot what made people obsessed with Game of thrones. When they killed Ned Stark no one saw it coming. Where was the main characters plot armour? Hwo could the bag guys win? Now we have a scene where in the entirety of winterfell the only people still fighting with weapon in hand is John, greyworm, pod, Briene and Jaime. The only people shown alive and fighting are the main characters . GRRM was spinning in his miniature painting stool.
Why did Melisandre kill herself in the snow? When she said she would be dead before daybreak I thought she was hinting at the fact that she was sacrificing her life force to light all the dothraki swords maybe. That sort of thing. Instead she just seems to decide her mission is accomplished and walks away.
What was done with all the dragonstone besides spiking the walls. It didnt look like the unsullied had dragonglass spears which would have made their phalanx useful. I think they realised that they made a mistake when they changed the fact that drogaonglass kills the zombies. They should have shooting draggonglass arrows. Otherwise what the hell was the point of the archers? The whole thing kept changing. One minute they are super quick zombies shrugging off blows, snuffing out flame pits (another change, as in the books the zombies light up like tinder) and the next minute slight touches of dragonglass are wiping out giants or flame arrows fired by theon are killing zombies.
I didn't get the idea that Arya disguised herself as a white walker??? Where did she jump from, their were hundreds of zombies around them.
Poor writing that the entire north could only find longclaw, thank the seven samwell stole Heartsbane. Not that it mattered much as in the end the white walkers staid back the entire battle. In fact the Night king risked himself more directly than his lieutenants.
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QuickTidal, on 29 April 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:
I think you're all nuts. I loved it. Start to finish.
The tactics complaint is a weird one. The tactics weren't supposed to work. That's the point. We are meant to see them losing at every interval. If they succeeded in their tactics (even in smaller increments), then we never get to that point narratively and it robs the show of the desperation (and remember that we are on a schedule to get a lot of shit done and seen....in 80 minutes even this was tight). So yeah, they made mistakes in planning, but it's by design. I don't need some sort of airtight tactics and defense that the bad guys really have to work to overwhelm...the point is they overwhelm. I could give two shits about how that occurred and what mistakes the good guys made to get us there. This isn't a battle they were meant to EVER have the upper hand in. It was a fucking slaughter that would have ended in everyone's death without Theon (YES. Fucking THEON!), and Arya (and the Red Witch)...I felt that from minute one until the end. My wife even said that it's hands-down the greatest 80minutes of TV she's ever watched. It's second place for me (after LOST's S4 ep, THE CONSTANT).
It was never going to go well for them. However the power of the nightking needs to be seen in that even with their defenses and plans he can defeat them. Watching Gregor clegane smash a babies head against a wall doesn't make you fear him, seeing him decapitate a horse with a single stroke of his sword does. The incredibly poor battlefield tactics destroyed my immersion. Felt like winterfell was losing, not that the night kinf was winning.
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The story has been exciting and fun to watch but I am also now asking what was the point of the story. Why did the nightking reappear now? How has he been a threat for ten thousand years and he was defeated by a dagger? Why did bran need to become the nightking. Where all the prophecies of the prince that was promised pointless? I could see GRRM going that route but here I feel like the writers just dropped the ball. I mean cersei is batshit but at this point does it really matter who rules westeros? At least humanit survives.
EDIT- could the others always raise any dead? I kind of always thought they had to raise the recent dead, people they had killed or their zombies had killed?
This post has been edited by Cause: 29 April 2019 - 10:34 PM
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