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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:41 PM

Heh, I just realized I am right after Tapper... Again. Guess I won't be playing until tomorrow!
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:44 PM

View PostBlend, on 18 March 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:


What if I cleared out Gnaw's ships in Gwynan on my way down - that would then give you a clear shot at MR.


Are you capable of doing that?
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:46 PM

View PostItwæs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 18 March 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:


What if I cleared out Gnaw's ships in Gwynan on my way down - that would then give you a clear shot at MR.


Are you capable of doing that?


Yep - I can't do anything about his infantry, but I can take out all the ships there with just my War Sun and 4 fighters. If we can come to an agreement, I'll even bring my cruiser with me so that it's not sitting in the Supernova.

EDIT - of course, he'll probably just produce more after I move my War Sun out of the system.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

IH - if I can come to an agreement with Nom about Quann, would me giving you my Trade Agreement be sufficient for you to leave Quann alone this round? You'd get an extra 2TGs outta the refresh if we did that.
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 March 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

Combat in Mellon/Zohbat resolved. Nom, can you please make your post all proper-like when you get the chance.


Post has been all proper-likened
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.


Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM

View PostD, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.


Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.



And the ships/infantry in corneeq?
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:20 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.


Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.



And the ships/infantry in corneeq?


Yep she will move that ship to blockade your homeworld and thus get her sftt back when you inevitably have to attack her :p
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:43 PM

View PostBlend, on 18 March 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

Heh, I just realized I am right after Tapper... Again. Guess I won't be playing until tomorrow!


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:57 PM

So Drek,

I receive 6tgs on my turn. Play construction.

You move your ships from corneeq to Jol/Nar systems on your 1st turn and give me your SFTT.

Your threat about blockading isn't a threat as my dreads can do a job on your ships. Just deal with me right
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:58 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

So Drek,

I receive 6tgs on my turn. Play construction.

You move your ships from corneeq to Jol/Nar systems on your 1st turn and give me your SFTT.

Your threat about blockading isn't a threat as my dreads can do a job on your ships. Just deal with me right


Her point is she gets her sftt back if you attack her and 4TG... so it's pretty much a free deal for her
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:00 PM

IH - you still haven't answered me about Quann - I will want to have an answer before I post my turn, please (though I realize my turn's still quite some real time away)!
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:15 PM

Oh missed that. Whether I take quann depends on what the map ends up looking like, being able to loot both gnaw and nom would be nice...

It's not high on my priority list but no guarantees.

If you want a guarantee of me not attacking it I don't know maybe your political secrets PN, and the trade deal we already proposed and I can guarantee no attacks this turn?
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:53 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 March 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

Oh missed that. Whether I take quann depends on what the map ends up looking like, being able to loot both gnaw and nom would be nice...

It's not high on my priority list but no guarantees.

If you want a guarantee of me not attacking it I don't know maybe your political secrets PN, and the trade deal we already proposed and I can guarantee no attacks this turn?


So you'd rather my Political Secrets PN than just my Trade Agreement which would guarantee you 2 additional TGs if Tapper agrees to give me the refresh? I'd be willing to offer it to you for non-agression on Quann this round - as long as Nom also agrees to what I'm proposing with him.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:54 PM

If we come to an agreement I'll probably just turn any ships parked over Quann at the beginning of next round into fertiliser for my letani warriors, fyi

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:02 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

If we come to an agreement I'll probably just turn any ships parked over Quann at the beginning of next round into fertiliser for my letani warriors, fyi


I realize that any agreement would likely be short lived - it's why I'm only trying to negotiate for this round. That being said, I figured if I can clear a path to MR for you, it'd be more attractive as an option than taking measly little Quann. Either way, I'll worry about what happens next round during next round. For now, I'm just looking to keep it for this round in hopes that I can use it to save my floundering game.
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:07 PM

View PostBlend, on 18 March 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

If we come to an agreement I'll probably just turn any ships parked over Quann at the beginning of next round into fertiliser for my letani warriors, fyi


I realize that any agreement would likely be short lived - it's why I'm only trying to negotiate for this round. That being said, I figured if I can clear a path to MR for you, it'd be more attractive as an option than taking measly little Quann. Either way, I'll worry about what happens next round during next round. For now, I'm just looking to keep it for this round in hopes that I can use it to save my floundering game.


I can make your path to MR more difficult or easier. I can leave Silvano unguarded, or I can plop a ship there just so that you HAVE to stop there on your way. I can clear out Gnaw's ships over Gwynan, or I can leave them there so you have to deal with those too. Granted he'll probably rebuild ships there once I move out from its space, but it might be less than what he's currently got there. You do have a lot of ships on the board, but you'll have to stretch them out over several systems the further out you go. And even small losses can slowly whittle away at your numbers, making it more difficult to get to and hold MR if that's a goal for you.
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 08:42 PM

View PostBlend, on 18 March 2019 - 07:07 PM, said:

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View PostItwæs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

If we come to an agreement I'll probably just turn any ships parked over Quann at the beginning of next round into fertiliser for my letani warriors, fyi


I realize that any agreement would likely be short lived - it's why I'm only trying to negotiate for this round. That being said, I figured if I can clear a path to MR for you, it'd be more attractive as an option than taking measly little Quann. Either way, I'll worry about what happens next round during next round. For now, I'm just looking to keep it for this round in hopes that I can use it to save my floundering game.


I can make your path to MR more difficult or easier. I can leave Silvano unguarded, or I can plop a ship there just so that you HAVE to stop there on your way. I can clear out Gnaw's ships over Gwynan, or I can leave them there so you have to deal with those too. Granted he'll probably rebuild ships there once I move out from its space, but it might be less than what he's currently got there. You do have a lot of ships on the board, but you'll have to stretch them out over several systems the further out you go. And even small losses can slowly whittle away at your numbers, making it more difficult to get to and hold MR if that's a goal for you.


Do you really have enough ships just to leave them scattered around my territories so I can easily swat them with a fraction of my force?

Just saying you're paying IH not to take a system he could only keep for the remainder of this round anyway and then have all his ships there destroyed

Unless he's just threatening you so you pay him anyway, ofcourse

That being said, @Gnaw I will accept a symbolic payment of 1 TG not to have Blend wipe out Gwynnan on his way, if you wanna hold Muaat hw and want me to impede his war sun I'm open to your offers

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 08:48 PM

View PostTapper, on 17 March 2019 - 07:20 AM, said:

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View PostImperial Historian, on 14 March 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

Morgoth, tapper, nom and gnaw would you be amenable to a deal where I take politics, and make gnaw speaker and between you, you pay 6tg and leave me trade? I'll leave it to you how you split that cost up and who gets what card, but saves tapper and gnaw having to pay 3tg each to use there quantum data hubs and leaves the speaker token on our side of the board once more so nom and morgoth would both get good picks as well.


This one.

I'm in for 2TG, leaving Trade for him, and the card of your choice for you (especially so for a free refresh).

I would be open to paying 2 TG for that deal (assuming IH is not going to pillage us on the payment to him).
I do not think it is a big secret that I will want Technology.

EDIT: I might have to take Imperial, though. The whole commodity thing likely prevents me from scoring a VP this round.



Nom, Morgoth: are you two up for this? Tapper and I are covering 4 of the 6tg so that's 1 each from you and the promise that IH gets Trade.
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 08:57 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 08:42 PM, said:

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View PostItwęs Nom, on 18 March 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

If we come to an agreement I'll probably just turn any ships parked over Quann at the beginning of next round into fertiliser for my letani warriors, fyi


I realize that any agreement would likely be short lived - it's why I'm only trying to negotiate for this round. That being said, I figured if I can clear a path to MR for you, it'd be more attractive as an option than taking measly little Quann. Either way, I'll worry about what happens next round during next round. For now, I'm just looking to keep it for this round in hopes that I can use it to save my floundering game.


I can make your path to MR more difficult or easier. I can leave Silvano unguarded, or I can plop a ship there just so that you HAVE to stop there on your way. I can clear out Gnaw's ships over Gwynan, or I can leave them there so you have to deal with those too. Granted he'll probably rebuild ships there once I move out from its space, but it might be less than what he's currently got there. You do have a lot of ships on the board, but you'll have to stretch them out over several systems the further out you go. And even small losses can slowly whittle away at your numbers, making it more difficult to get to and hold MR if that's a goal for you.


Do you really have enough ships just to leave them scattered around my territories so I can easily swat them with a fraction of my force?

Just saying you're paying IH not to take a system he could only keep for the remainder of this round anyway and then have all his ships there destroyed

Unless he's just threatening you so you pay him anyway, ofcourse

That being said, @Gnaw I will accept a symbolic payment of 1 TG not to have Blend wipe out Gwynnan on his way, if you wanna hold Muaat hw and want me to impede his war sun I'm open to your offers


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