[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 07 February 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

Construction primary doesn't place down a CT tatts.

I am curious as to where you think you are going to go from Bereg though, the obvious places are all my territories which I'm obviously very much not in favour of.

No where, ideally I could have a ship there for one round, a destroyer maybe, and cause as less problems in that area as possible.

[Tattersail_]

D'rek consider my proposal and come back with a counter offer if you will, I'm trying to be friendly about having a ship in your system without invading or conflict.

[twelve]

Tatts could you make a move for Malice instead of Ensapta? Depending on what Gnaw does there is a decent chance I'm making a run on Rex to kick out the Usurper from the Winnu's rightful place in the galaxy and you having ships in the way will cause some little issue. Or if you do take it this round can you move the ships out early next round if your heart is set on Ensapra?

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 07 February 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

Tatts could you make a move for Malice instead of Ensapta? Depending on what Gnaw does there is a decent chance I'm making a run on Rex to kick out the Usurper from the Winnu's rightful place in the galaxy and you having ships in the way will cause some little issue. Or if you do take it this round can you move the ships out early next round if your heart is set on Ensapra?

I can move my ships out of the way once they have claimed the planet. That's not a problem.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

D'rek, you have a command token in that system now so cannot move in if I do.

Nope

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I could plop down 5 infantry on one of the planets and make it very tough for you to take back.

You could.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I am not going to lie I have been thinking about that for a few reasons. This recent building of PDS 2 on Mec Rex is one of those "friendly" moves that impacts my game. Ensapta was looking nice until you dropped that PDS there.

It's not friendly and I make no pretense to it being so. I am deliberately trying to slow down everyone else's centre-game and put off the taking of MR in the hopes that it will help me get to 12 VP sooner than others, mainly by slowing them down less than it slows myself down, and furthermore trying to accrue some resources out of it to make up for most of my planets being influnece-dominant planets.

Ensapta is still very nice, just pay the 1 tg to move in without laser fire. Morghy or MacGnaw or Twelve will kick me out of MR soon enough, and if you already hold Ensapta at that time it will put you in a great position to double-swipe MR from them, or other strategic moves. Just ends up costing you 1, maybe 2, extra TGs for the tactical actions on Ensapta before then.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

So I do have a proposal for you, firstly I want to drop a ship in Bereg. I do not want to invade or stay there more than 1 round. If IH activates it then you will use your Ceasefire to prevent him from moving in. I will move out during next round and therefore you'll still be getting the production from the planets and be able to build in Bereg. Secondly I want you to not fire at any of my ships that move into Ensapta this round.

I don't see a downside for you as I am not taking anything off you and I do want friendly relations between us.

I had planned to use that space dock this round (or else why bother building it, could've just dumped another PDS there or taken another SC), but if you blockade it I won't do anything about it this round. I'll be miffed, but I won't waste my logistics build just to retake the space over Bereg. If you blockade and invade I absolutely will, and naturally I'll be far more miffed.

I'll use the Mentak ceasefire if and when it suits me. If you just move the lone carrier to BereLirta without any escort that's your decision, not my job to defend it.

The laser toll still applies.

Remember Tatts, you picked your homeworld position before me and you've picked SC before me both times. You could've picked a less stuck-in-a-corner homeworld spot. You could've gotten to MR first. Don't be upset with me that you didn't make the most optimal picks and things aren't perfectly falling into line for you as a result.

[twelve]

Nom, if you use construction secondary you have to put a command token on the system. So then you can't activate it and build. I assume building is more important than the PDS.

[Galactic Council]

twelve, on 07 February 2019 - 05:40 PM, said:

Nom, if you use construction secondary you have to put a command token on the system. So then you can't activate it and build. I assume building is more important than the PDS.

Also, you already have two PDS on Nestphar - you can't have any more

[Itwæs Nom]

thanks didnt realise edited

[Tattersail_]

D, on 07 February 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

D'rek, you have a command token in that system now so cannot move in if I do.

Nope

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I could plop down 5 infantry on one of the planets and make it very tough for you to take back.

You could.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I am not going to lie I have been thinking about that for a few reasons. This recent building of PDS 2 on Mec Rex is one of those "friendly" moves that impacts my game. Ensapta was looking nice until you dropped that PDS there.

It's not friendly and I make no pretense to it being so. I am deliberately trying to slow down everyone else's centre-game and put off the taking of MR in the hopes that it will help me get to 12 VP sooner than others, mainly by slowing them down less than it slows myself down, and furthermore trying to accrue some resources out of it to make up for most of my planets being influnece-dominant planets.

Ensapta is still very nice, just pay the 1 tg to move in without laser fire. Morghy or MacGnaw or Twelve will kick me out of MR soon enough, and if you already hold Ensapta at that time it will put you in a great position to double-swipe MR from them, or other strategic moves. Just ends up costing you 1, maybe 2, extra TGs for the tactical actions on Ensapta before then.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

So I do have a proposal for you, firstly I want to drop a ship in Bereg. I do not want to invade or stay there more than 1 round. If IH activates it then you will use your Ceasefire to prevent him from moving in. I will move out during next round and therefore you'll still be getting the production from the planets and be able to build in Bereg. Secondly I want you to not fire at any of my ships that move into Ensapta this round.

I don't see a downside for you as I am not taking anything off you and I do want friendly relations between us.

I had planned to use that space dock this round (or else why bother building it, could've just dumped another PDS there or taken another SC), but if you blockade it I won't do anything about it this round. I'll be miffed, but I won't waste my logistics build just to retake the space over Bereg. If you blockade and invade I absolutely will, and naturally I'll be far more miffed.

I'll use the Mentak ceasefire if and when it suits me. If you just move the lone carrier to BereLirta without any escort that's your decision, not my job to defend it.

The laser toll still applies.

Remember Tatts, you picked your homeworld position before me and you've picked SC before me both times. You could've picked a less stuck-in-a-corner homeworld spot. You could've gotten to MR first. Don't be upset with me that you didn't make the most optimal picks and things aren't perfectly falling into line for you as a result.

Okay if I blockade it and you promise not to attack me this round and don't fire on me in Ensapta then I'll give you 2 TGs once you pass.

Would this be a suitable deal to you? I'll have to move an army to prevent IH from getting any ideas but I won't invade. You won't attack me and I'll move away next round.

[Gnaw]

Tapper, I thought we were negotiating for the Speaker token. Guess not.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

D, on 07 February 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

D'rek, you have a command token in that system now so cannot move in if I do.

Nope

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I could plop down 5 infantry on one of the planets and make it very tough for you to take back.

You could.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I am not going to lie I have been thinking about that for a few reasons. This recent building of PDS 2 on Mec Rex is one of those "friendly" moves that impacts my game. Ensapta was looking nice until you dropped that PDS there.

It's not friendly and I make no pretense to it being so. I am deliberately trying to slow down everyone else's centre-game and put off the taking of MR in the hopes that it will help me get to 12 VP sooner than others, mainly by slowing them down less than it slows myself down, and furthermore trying to accrue some resources out of it to make up for most of my planets being influnece-dominant planets.

Ensapta is still very nice, just pay the 1 tg to move in without laser fire. Morghy or MacGnaw or Twelve will kick me out of MR soon enough, and if you already hold Ensapta at that time it will put you in a great position to double-swipe MR from them, or other strategic moves. Just ends up costing you 1, maybe 2, extra TGs for the tactical actions on Ensapta before then.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

So I do have a proposal for you, firstly I want to drop a ship in Bereg. I do not want to invade or stay there more than 1 round. If IH activates it then you will use your Ceasefire to prevent him from moving in. I will move out during next round and therefore you'll still be getting the production from the planets and be able to build in Bereg. Secondly I want you to not fire at any of my ships that move into Ensapta this round.

I don't see a downside for you as I am not taking anything off you and I do want friendly relations between us.

I had planned to use that space dock this round (or else why bother building it, could've just dumped another PDS there or taken another SC), but if you blockade it I won't do anything about it this round. I'll be miffed, but I won't waste my logistics build just to retake the space over Bereg. If you blockade and invade I absolutely will, and naturally I'll be far more miffed.

I'll use the Mentak ceasefire if and when it suits me. If you just move the lone carrier to BereLirta without any escort that's your decision, not my job to defend it.

The laser toll still applies.

Remember Tatts, you picked your homeworld position before me and you've picked SC before me both times. You could've picked a less stuck-in-a-corner homeworld spot. You could've gotten to MR first. Don't be upset with me that you didn't make the most optimal picks and things aren't perfectly falling into line for you as a result.

Okay if I blockade it and you promise not to attack me this round and don't fire on me in Ensapta then I'll give you 2 TGs once you pass.

Would this be a suitable deal to you? I'll have to move an army to prevent IH from getting any ideas but I won't invade. You won't attack me and I'll move away next round.

Tatts you moving an army is much more likely to 'give me ideas', if you put a destroyer in bereg lirta I have zero problems with that. I really don't want to get into any conflict with you, but you moving a carrier and infantry into bereg lirta and not invading understandably makes me nervous, as clearly you aren't interested in attacking d'rek so the only person you are likely to attack is me.

[twelve]

It looks like Tatts is trying to score a secret objective by that move I think. It does seem like a very odd move otherwise.

[Tattersail_]

If I fill that carrier with fighters then we have no problem do we?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

D, on 07 February 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

D'rek, you have a command token in that system now so cannot move in if I do.

Nope

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I could plop down 5 infantry on one of the planets and make it very tough for you to take back.

You could.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

I am not going to lie I have been thinking about that for a few reasons. This recent building of PDS 2 on Mec Rex is one of those "friendly" moves that impacts my game. Ensapta was looking nice until you dropped that PDS there.

It's not friendly and I make no pretense to it being so. I am deliberately trying to slow down everyone else's centre-game and put off the taking of MR in the hopes that it will help me get to 12 VP sooner than others, mainly by slowing them down less than it slows myself down, and furthermore trying to accrue some resources out of it to make up for most of my planets being influnece-dominant planets.

Ensapta is still very nice, just pay the 1 tg to move in without laser fire. Morghy or MacGnaw or Twelve will kick me out of MR soon enough, and if you already hold Ensapta at that time it will put you in a great position to double-swipe MR from them, or other strategic moves. Just ends up costing you 1, maybe 2, extra TGs for the tactical actions on Ensapta before then.

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

So I do have a proposal for you, firstly I want to drop a ship in Bereg. I do not want to invade or stay there more than 1 round. If IH activates it then you will use your Ceasefire to prevent him from moving in. I will move out during next round and therefore you'll still be getting the production from the planets and be able to build in Bereg. Secondly I want you to not fire at any of my ships that move into Ensapta this round.

I don't see a downside for you as I am not taking anything off you and I do want friendly relations between us.

I had planned to use that space dock this round (or else why bother building it, could've just dumped another PDS there or taken another SC), but if you blockade it I won't do anything about it this round. I'll be miffed, but I won't waste my logistics build just to retake the space over Bereg. If you blockade and invade I absolutely will, and naturally I'll be far more miffed.

I'll use the Mentak ceasefire if and when it suits me. If you just move the lone carrier to BereLirta without any escort that's your decision, not my job to defend it.

The laser toll still applies.

Remember Tatts, you picked your homeworld position before me and you've picked SC before me both times. You could've picked a less stuck-in-a-corner homeworld spot. You could've gotten to MR first. Don't be upset with me that you didn't make the most optimal picks and things aren't perfectly falling into line for you as a result.

Okay if I blockade it and you promise not to attack me this round and don't fire on me in Ensapta then I'll give you 2 TGs once you pass.

Would this be a suitable deal to you? I'll have to move an army to prevent IH from getting any ideas but I won't invade. You won't attack me and I'll move away next round.

Agreed.

[D'rek]

Wait, I withdraw that agree (x-post), want to see what/if you and IH work out first

[Gnaw]

Blend, when are you getting around to taking Quann or Mansa? Want to swap commodities?

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 07 February 2019 - 06:18 PM, said:

Blend, when are you getting around to taking Quann or Mansa? Want to swap commodities?

You waiting to hear from your other half before you post your action?

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 07 February 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

If I fill that carrier with fighters then we have no problem do we?

No, seems an odd move though, especially since gnaw has the anomaly secret objective... Wander what you are up to.

[D'rek]

Tatts if you move carrier and fighters only, and IH is okay with it as he says, and you pay me 1 tg, then yup, no retaliation. And then 1 tg for the ensapta hold-fire, as you said. I'll agree to that.

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 07 February 2019 - 06:00 PM, said:

Tapper, I thought we were negotiating for the Speaker token. Guess not.

Sorry. I realized only that I had put in a move without an actual activation in it after I posted it, and the Secondaries actually were such a quandary that production was also impossible as a stall. I have left you an absolute shoe-in with the Agenda's, though.