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#4741 User is offline   Gnaw 

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 05:21 PM

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

If Khell decides it's not valid that's fine, and I can modify the post and will at least still build the destroyer with TG.


Itís not valid, itís not valid itís not valid!

Eh. I have no problem with it. Thematically: ďSir, that covert mining unit you sent to planet X reports that the mines there have already been exhausted.Ē
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 05:28 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

If Khell decides it's not valid that's fine, and I can modify the post and will at least still build the destroyer with TG.


Itís not valid, itís not valid itís not valid!

Eh. I have no problem with it. Thematically: ďSir, that covert mining unit you sent to planet X reports that the mines there have already been exhausted.Ē


If it does turn out invalid I'll be sad we couldn't arrange to do some of our commodity swap on my hand so I could build more. Didn't realize at the time you were still sitting with 1 commodity unconverted. But too many people have gone since, probably.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:31 PM

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

If Khell decides it's not valid that's fine, and I can modify the post and will at least still build the destroyer with TG.


It's not valid, it's not valid it's not valid!

Eh. I have no problem with it. Thematically: "Sir, that covert mining unit you sent to planet X reports that the mines there have already been exhausted."


If it does turn out invalid I'll be sad we couldn't arrange to do some of our commodity swap on my hand so I could build more. Didn't realize at the time you were still sitting with 1 commodity unconverted. But too many people have gone since, probably.


Yeah, and I'm not going to help you build ships this round that will come visit me next round once you research light/wave deflector....

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 18 June 2019 - 08:02 PM

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:46 PM

Gnaw - are we good for a 4/4 swap, or should I be harassing other people?
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:01 PM

View PostBlend, on 18 June 2019 - 07:46 PM, said:

Gnaw - are we good for a 4/4 swap, or should I be harassing other people?


Yeah, I can swap yours out regardless of whether I use commodities or tgs.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:06 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 08:01 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 18 June 2019 - 07:46 PM, said:

Gnaw - are we good for a 4/4 swap, or should I be harassing other people?


Yeah, I can swap yours out regardless of whether I use commodities or tgs.


Cool, just wanted to make sure (you vile traitor) - you'll post it on your turn?
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:06 PM

Aww what, you said you'd trade with me :thumbsup:

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:07 PM

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 08:06 PM, said:

Aww what, you said you'd trade with me :thumbsup:


Can't he do both?
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:32 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 June 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 18 June 2019 - 07:41 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 June 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

What would you have built that could make it to IH's homeworld this round?


I have flank speed, but that hardly matters now.


Thanks everyone, direct hit and flank speed in morgoths hands, was what I was most worried about.


Iíd been saving them for quite some time for just such an occasion.

This post has been edited by Morgoth: 18 June 2019 - 09:33 PM

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 11:00 PM

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

If Khell decides it's not valid that's fine, and I can modify the post and will at least still build the destroyer with TG.


Itís not valid, itís not valid itís not valid!

Eh. I have no problem with it. Thematically: ďSir, that covert mining unit you sent to planet X reports that the mines there have already been exhausted.Ē


If it does turn out invalid I'll be sad we couldn't arrange to do some of our commodity swap on my hand so I could build more. Didn't realize at the time you were still sitting with 1 commodity unconverted. But too many people have gone since, probably.


After much searching:

Rule 1.7 from the Living Rules updated version 1.2:

If an ability has multiple effects separated by the word ďand,Ē a player must resolve as many of the abilityís effects as possible. However, if he cannot resolve all of its effects, he is allowed to resolve as many as he can.

So yes, I think Reparations can still be used, but if Tatts has even one unexhausted planet, then that has to be the target. But as all his planets were already exhausted (I believe?) then the way Dírek used the card is permissible.

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Posted 19 June 2019 - 01:14 AM

Ah, I see. If the effect text is "A and B" and one of A or B are impossible, you can still do the other. But if the text is "A then B" you must be able to do A or else you can't do B.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 03:29 AM

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 June 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 18 June 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 June 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

If Khell decides it's not valid that's fine, and I can modify the post and will at least still build the destroyer with TG.


Itís not valid, itís not valid itís not valid!

Eh. I have no problem with it. Thematically: ďSir, that covert mining unit you sent to planet X reports that the mines there have already been exhausted.Ē


If it does turn out invalid I'll be sad we couldn't arrange to do some of our commodity swap on my hand so I could build more. Didn't realize at the time you were still sitting with 1 commodity unconverted. But too many people have gone since, probably.


After much searching:

Rule 1.7 from the Living Rules updated version 1.2:

If an ability has multiple effects separated by the word ďand,Ē a player must resolve as many of the abilityís effects as possible. However, if he cannot resolve all of its effects, he is allowed to resolve as many as he can.

So yes, I think Reparations can still be used, but if Tatts has even one unexhausted planet, then that has to be the target. But as all his planets were already exhausted (I believe?) then the way Dírek used the card is permissible.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:12 AM

View PostD, on 19 June 2019 - 01:14 AM, said:

Ah, I see. If the effect text is "A and B" and one of A or B are impossible, you can still do the other. But if the text is "A then B" you must be able to do A or else you can't do B.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 07:45 AM

Tapper's turn right.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 01:57 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 19 June 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

Tapper's turn right.

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 07:15 AM

Oh, Tapping One, are you still with us?
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 02:52 PM

Tapper's having a massage. Be back when he's nice and tender.
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 04:37 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 20 June 2019 - 02:52 PM, said:

Tapper's having a massage. Be back when he's nice and tender.


Does Tapper not know that the Arborec are carnivorous?
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 12:03 PM

Has Gnaw passed or is it back around to me?
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 12:16 PM

View PostGnaw, on 20 June 2019 - 07:15 AM, said:

Oh, Tapping One, are you still with us?

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