[Gnaw]

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?

Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.

Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.

I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).

Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.

Understandable. Plan is to move my carrier and infantry to take Mansa III then we can negotiate the swap. Maybe you can take it this round so you can use it then I can take it back after Tech is played?

Eh. Guess I don’t want it for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. I was thinking the 3 tech plant PO. Mansa, Lodd, and Wellon.

Go ahead and take it this round if you want it for the yellow tech.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 03 February 2019 - 12:21 AM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2019 - 11:47 PM, said:

D, on 02 February 2019 - 11:05 PM, said:

@Tatts - we should probably figure out this Tar'mann situation, yes? Like I said before, if you want it I'm open to the idea of letting you have it if we can find a deal that we're both happy with. I get that you giving up Ensapta to Twelve and therefore might want Tar'mann for getting through to the middle. If not, and you are happy with using the wormhole instead, then that's fine, too, and I'll likely be moving to Tar'mann on my first turn.

As far as I know he hasn't given up Ensapta to me. I think we haven't fully discussed ownership border issues as of yet.. I just need to have a clear path to Rex. If he blocks it by taking Ensapta before I can get past we will have issues. Otherwise he can claim it without much objection by me as long as he is a good neighbor.

How many more moves/turns/rounds before you think you can get to Rex without logistics for example?

It all depends. I can see a way I can get to Rex this round but most likely it won't be until next. Since you are picking up tech I would greatly appreciate it if you use it as your first action so I can get gravity drive. That will greatly improve my chances of making it to Rex without running into issues with you getting in my way in Ensapta.

[twelve]

D, on 03 February 2019 - 01:36 AM, said:

twelve, on 02 February 2019 - 11:47 PM, said:

D, on 02 February 2019 - 11:05 PM, said:

@Tatts - we should probably figure out this Tar'mann situation, yes? Like I said before, if you want it I'm open to the idea of letting you have it if we can find a deal that we're both happy with. I get that you giving up Ensapta to Twelve and therefore might want Tar'mann for getting through to the middle. If not, and you are happy with using the wormhole instead, then that's fine, too, and I'll likely be moving to Tar'mann on my first turn.

As far as I know he hasn't given up Ensapta to me. I think we haven't fully discussed ownership border issues as of yet.. I just need to have a clear path to Rex. If he blocks it by taking Ensapta before I can get past we will have issues. Otherwise he can claim it without much objection by me as long as he is a good neighbor.

If you really don't care about Ensapta, then you hopping past Ensapta for MR, him getting Esanpta, and me taking Tar'mann sounds great. Though obviously I'm getting the best deal out of that in that I get a planet without giving up anything.

I care ,just not enough to fight over it at the moment unless it conflicts with me getting to the center. Ensapta would synergies great with Winnu on influence but if I land Rex I'm probably going to be fine on influence.

[Gnaw]

D'rek, we think it would be wise for you and I to obtain the logistics and warfare strategy cards if we wish to impose impedements to the Winnureaching MR this round.
I would prefer Logistics to Warfare.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 03 February 2019 - 02:14 AM

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

D'rek, we think it would be wise for you and I to obtain the logistics and warfare strategy cards if we wish to impose impedements to the Winnureaching MR this round.
I would prefer Logistics to Warfare.

Who says I want to help you impede Winnu? If I'm being entirely self-interested squids, what's the benefit to me?

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

D'rek, we think it would be wise for you and I to obtain the logistics and warfare strategy cards if we wish to impose impedements to the Winnureaching MR this round.
I would prefer Logistics to Warfare.

Why would you have objections to me taking the center? I'm just going to sit there and manage the Universe. Government red tape is no place for you. It will simply slow down more enlightened paths for both you and the researchers of Jol Nar. Assimulating knowledge is an honorable pursuit and you should focus on this path. I approve.

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?

Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.

Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.

I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).

Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.

Understandable. Plan is to move my carrier and infantry to take Mansa III then we can negotiate the swap. Maybe you can take it this round so you can use it then I can take it back after Tech is played?

Eh. Guess I don’t want it for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. I was thinking the 3 tech plant PO. Mansa, Lodd, and Wellon.

Go ahead and take it this round if you want it for the yellow tech.

The VP objective would be nice but I want Lodd Eru for the red pre requisite so I can skip Magen.

[Gnaw]

D, on 03 February 2019 - 02:18 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

D'rek, we think it would be wise for you and I to obtain the logistics and warfare strategy cards if we wish to impose impedements to the Winnureaching MR this round.
I would prefer Logistics to Warfare.

Who says I want to help you impede Winnu? If I'm being entirely self-interested squids, what's the benefit to me?

Because they’re a pita to get off of it? And makes them significantly more likely to win if they hold it?

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 02:20 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?

Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.

Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.

I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).

Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.

Understandable. Plan is to move my carrier and infantry to take Mansa III then we can negotiate the swap. Maybe you can take it this round so you can use it then I can take it back after Tech is played?

Eh. Guess I don't want it for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. I was thinking the 3 tech plant PO. Mansa, Lodd, and Wellon.

Go ahead and take it this round if you want it for the yellow tech.

The VP objective would be nice but I want Lodd Eru for the red pre requisite so I can skip Magen.

Ah. Understandable. Well, make sure you bring a fighter to absorb one shot so I can retreat the dread.

[Gnaw]

Khell, go to bed. 😁

[Galactic Council]

Just waiting on Tapper and Morgoth's statuses and then we can proceed to the next PO and strategy cards

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:21 AM, said:

D, on 03 February 2019 - 02:18 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

D'rek, we think it would be wise for you and I to obtain the logistics and warfare strategy cards if we wish to impose impedements to the Winnureaching MR this round.
I would prefer Logistics to Warfare.

Who says I want to help you impede Winnu? If I'm being entirely self-interested squids, what's the benefit to me?

Because they’re a pita to get off of it? And makes them significantly more likely to win if they hold it?

Which is great for me. A big pile of Winnu in the middle of the map, which all the warlike races are intent on crushing before they rack up all those MR VP. And while that's going on, it is not only difficult to get to me, but the focus is off of me. Great!

Publicly working against the Winnu not only stops that from happening, it puts me in the limelight, where Jol-Nar ought not to be.

Whereas the Nekro are pretty much always in some amount of limelight and everyone expects them to war and impede, so no biggie for you.

Therefore, if you want me to help you impede Winnu (really, it's not even help you, I can just fully impede them myself without your help) I'll need something good for it. Maybe your Antivirus would do the trick...

[Galactic Council]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 02:25 AM, said:

Khell, go to bed. 😁

Wise advice!

[twelve]

Tapper,

I have a trade proposal for you. I've come into possession of an Action card that you will most likely want. I' will show it to you. I'm thinking your trade agreement PN would be worth it to you. Please let me know your thoughts. Though if you are in possession of a flank speed AC I would be willing to add in my trade agreement PN to pay for that card as well.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 03 February 2019 - 02:28 AM, said:

Tapper,

I have a trade proposal for you. I've come into possession of an Action card that you will most likely want. I' will show it to you. I'm thinking your trade agreement PN would be worth it to you. Please let me know your thoughts. Though if you are in possession of a flank speed AC I would be willing to add in my trade agreement PN to pay for that card as well.

It is a good card, but it is (as all AC) not worth a permanent PN imho. GC still has to give me my AC, if it is a Flank Speed I will happily exchange, if not, it might be a good action for you to use late in the round?

[twelve]

Tapper, on 03 February 2019 - 05:21 AM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2019 - 02:28 AM, said:

Tapper,

I have a trade proposal for you. I've come into possession of an Action card that you will most likely want. I' will show it to you. I'm thinking your trade agreement PN would be worth it to you. Please let me know your thoughts. Though if you are in possession of a flank speed AC I would be willing to add in my trade agreement PN to pay for that card as well.

It is a good card, but it is (as all AC) not worth a permanent PN imho. GC still has to give me my AC, if it is a Flank Speed I will happily exchange, if not, it might be a good action for you to use late in the round?

That action card is likely to hurt you multiple times throughout the game. I'm giving you the chance to take it out of action for just 6 tgs the rest of the game. But if you don't think it's worth that price then I'm going to use it for max benefit and put it back into circulation. Apologies in advance for the inconvenience it will cause.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 03 February 2019 - 05:35 AM, said:

Tapper, on 03 February 2019 - 05:21 AM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2019 - 02:28 AM, said:

Tapper,

I have a trade proposal for you. I've come into possession of an Action card that you will most likely want. I' will show it to you. I'm thinking your trade agreement PN would be worth it to you. Please let me know your thoughts. Though if you are in possession of a flank speed AC I would be willing to add in my trade agreement PN to pay for that card as well.

It is a good card, but it is (as all AC) not worth a permanent PN imho. GC still has to give me my AC, if it is a Flank Speed I will happily exchange, if not, it might be a good action for you to use late in the round?

That action card is likely to hurt you multiple times throughout the game. I'm giving you the chance to take it out of action for just 6 tgs the rest of the game. But if you don't think it's worth that price then I'm going to use it for max benefit and put it back into circulation. Apologies in advance for the inconvenience it will cause.

I like how you manage to turn what started as a friendly offer from you to me into, essentially, blackmail.

I still haven't received my AC from Blend. Let's wait for that - and yes, I'd rather pay some TG for that card than my Racial, if 6 TG is a new offer.

[Gnaw]

Tapper, on 03 February 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

I like how you manage to turn what started as a friendly offer from you to me into, essentially, blackmail.

Uh, Tapper? You have played with Twelve before yes???

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 03 February 2019 - 08:17 AM

[Morgoth]

Gnaw, on 02 February 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

Proposal. Our analytics Units have recommended a deeper connection with the Embers of Muaat. Strategic council agrees and wishes to exchange SftT PNs with the Embers. This would be in addition to and contingent upon our previous offer of exchange of racial PNs.

Proposal. Our analytics Units have recommended a connection with the Barony of Letnev. Strategic council agrees and wishes to exchange Ceasefire PNs with the Barony. This would be with the understanding that neither PN would be activated simply to impede passage through the Qucen'n/Rarron system. Also with the gentlebeings' understanding that neither Ceasfire would be traded to third parties without approval/reparations.

I am positive, though it cannot be used to prevent me from taking Qucen’n Rarron, I have an emotional attachment to that system. But yes, I am happy to let you rampage throughout the galaxy without interference. Chaos is a ladder, as some say, and the Nekro bring such glorious chaos.

[Morgoth]

Khell, I’d like to get my SO before I do my status phase.