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Chain of Dogs to be a movie!

#541 User is offline   tiam 

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:49 PM

it will never be a movie. It will cost too much money to even do the battle of vathar crossing well. And if its not goos enough then well jus moan how crap it is lol ;)
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#542 User is offline   Dolorous Menhir 

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:19 PM

I don't think any of these books would work as tv or film. the philosophy and atmosphere would be lost, as would a huge part of the dialogue, character-building and storyline (for practical reasons). the complexity of the books would not lend themselves to an audience which knew nothing going in.

most importantly, filming these books would force a visualisation of events and people we've all grown to know and love despite the near total absence of physical description (of people, anyway) in the books. no matter who played Whiskeyjack or Coltaine, they would fail to measure up to my own thoughts of them. this is fantasy, its power resides in the imaginations of those who read. it would be wasted on the eyes of an idle watcher.

plus, there are no strong female characters in the Chain of Dogs story...in fact the only woman I can think of in that is Duiker's nameless marine (and Nether, I suppose). that's got to be a point against it commercially. plus it would be pretty damn depressing to watch Coltaine cross a desert for two hours fighting battle after battle and then get horribly betrayed and shot dead at the end. it's the worst happy ending ever.

it'd be like watching the Poseidon Adventure but having it end with all the characters drowning in the Engine Room while the rescue team has plays cards.

that's my tuppence.
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#543 User is offline   RaZjInSaR 

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 12:11 AM

:) if the 2nd and 4th books went together we would have all that we need :) and a very...VERY....VVEERRRRYY long story :D
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Posted 25 February 2006 - 09:12 PM

It would be a very brave man to take on any erikson MBotF book into a film, I don't think even peter jackson has the balls for it.
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Posted 25 February 2006 - 10:08 PM

I would have thought that the biggest problem might be the marketing. Essentially, I dont believe it truly matters how much the fans here like it - its how much the public likes it. Even witha couple of thousand fans loving it that isnt enough to bring in the money for a full length film.

As such, something owuld have to happen of particular interest - something would have to distinguish the film from others. The problem is, what? We all know how great the books are but they're relatively unknown in most circles and wont get the publicity of Lord of the Rings or King Kong, and they were some of the most well known epic films in years. Nor even that of some lesser known films. The question is, what makes the Malazan world so great and how can that ever be captured to appear on screen.
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Posted 25 February 2006 - 10:08 PM

well, there you have it...dolorous menhir had final say, and it seems that all attempts at turning MBotF into film are to be abandoned...ah, c'est la vie.

@malaz...true, the books are only now causing a stir in the american marketplace, but give them time. in a couple of years, dolorous may have to rethink their position.
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 06:31 PM

Patch is giving up? Then we are all doomed. DOOMED!!!!
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:07 AM

:) untill we get money....
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:50 AM

ummm...I didn't realise my word carried such weight.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 02:27 PM

dolorous...it doesn't; it's just been awhile since i teased y'all...me, give up? never!
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 09:26 PM

The only way to get even a measure of the story across is to do it in a mini series, that's done in cgi. And that goes for just about any fantasy novel you want to turn into a movie.
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Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:19 PM

LIES! PUSTCH WILL FIND A WAY! :D he always does! :) and we're sooo proud of him! aww :)
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Posted 06 March 2006 - 05:36 AM

It does occur to me that the Chain of Dogs really could work. It would be largely different from the actual book I think - it would have to be. The key is Duiker and the fact that it is HIS story, that's what would make it work, the way that it all unfolds from his perspective and shows us what he feels.

Epic, yes, but I think more than anything that the film would take from the novels is the reality, the humanity.

Yes...
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 03:21 PM

bumble said:

It would be a very brave man to take on any erikson MBotF book into a film, I don't think even peter jackson has the balls for it.


In the end Peter Jackson has the balls, but in the end, Lord of the Rings is, storywise the worst he's ever done. I agree, very nice artwork, action, the lot, but storywise...dunno. He had to skip too much story to make it nice. Erikson is too complex to make a movie out of the series. It would loose all the charm of discovering new details and storylinks. Even a series or a comic would take an endless amount of episodes. Might as well turn it into a fantasy version of "the bold and the beautiful".

*Episode 2951: Will Icarium finally find his daddy? What will happen to the world now that Fiddler and Hedge finally teamed up again? And will the Crippled God be able to cover up the murder of his therapist? Tune in to "Malazans", every.....blahblahblah*
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 09:00 AM

ROFL!!!!!!! well that sounds like fun :p soooo kallor got any more info for us yet? :p
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 03:26 PM

A movie of the Chain of Dogs would likely end up being a knock-off of 'Mad Max' (the second one) if it were financed as such things normally are.

To draw another comparison, 'The Postman' took all the science backing David Brin's book and trashed it. The end result was trash.

The financiers would remove magic wherever it was found and substitute politics.

Yes, it could work, but there are some problems to be overcome.
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 10:55 PM

Danyah said:

Even a series or a comic would take an endless amount of episodes. Might as well turn it into a fantasy version of "the bold and the beautiful".

*Episode 2951: Will Icarium finally find his daddy? What will happen to the world now that Fiddler and Hedge finally teamed up again? And will the Crippled God be able to cover up the murder of his therapist? Tune in to "Malazans", every.....blahblahblah*
Look if something as crappacious as Neighbours can keep going for 20 years, without a single exciting thing happening (except the time when those two hot chicks were getting off...) then surely we can get an awesome series that lasts for a few years based on CoD... :)
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:08 AM

i totally agree tiste...neighbours *cough* **** *cough* sorry....but yes and home and away also the **** but its still going...then there is reality...come on people big brother is in its 6th year! omg kill me now that show is **** anyway im done...:) thank you... goodnight! *slides away*
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#559 User is offline   Kallor 

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 03:39 PM

i was sure i had posted to this but i may be wrong. mad max was a great series...max is the quintessential byronic (ie, reluctant) hero, driven to courage by guilt...

...chain of dogs (and any other malazan series that i have any control over) will be as true to the original as i can make it.
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 12:06 PM

it'd be a hard one to make, and to be make it so realistically too. How are they going to rate it? MA+. How long are they willing to make it so the movie sticks with the book?
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