[Imperial Historian]

I thought I might have avoided your assault cannons too as you no longer have 3 ships, but looks like attacker has initiative so your warsun was destroyed after you fired assault cannons.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 01:52 AM, said:

I think it's my turn? But it's 2am here and I still have to decide upon my action, so I'm going to have to leave till the morning.

Khell are we going to have a problem now our truce is over?

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 07 December 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 December 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hmm I'm running out of ideas for preventing a morgoth win

I'm still offering to help you move a WH to hit him. Or if you don't want to hit him anymore, I can use a WH to at least try and take a planet off of him. We don't necessarily have to take his homeworld, just make sure he doesnt get enough planets to spend 16 res (and not trade with him so he can't get 10 tg either, nor let him take anyone else's HW).

I don't need a wormhole to attack him, but he has my ceasefire.

I'm happy to let you use a wormhole other than the beta wormhole in bereg to try and attack him but he is well defended against that, and I'm not really inclined to do it for free especially as all I'm going to be doing is putting you in a position to win rather than morgoth as I'm pretty much out of the running now. Does that give you options you can use?

[Imperial Historian]

Also question does twelve get a status phase and the ability to trade tg if he has no ships or planets?

[Khellendros]

Sorry, should have asked this last night:

Gnaw, do you want to do that 4:4 Trade then?

IH, it seems very unlikely, if for no other reason than that I can't reach you.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

Also question does twelve get a status phase and the ability to trade tg if he has no ships or planets?

31 ELIMINATION
A player who is eliminated is no longer part of the game.

31.1 A player is eliminated when he meets all of the following three
conditions:
• The player has no ground forces on the game board.
• The player has no unit that has “Production.”
• The player does not control any planets.

31.2 When a player becomes eliminated, all of the units, command
tokens, control tokens, promissory notes, technologies,
command sheets, as well as the faction sheet that matches his
faction or color are returned to the game box, including those in
his reinforcements.

31.3 When a player becomes eliminated, all agenda cards he owns
are discarded.

31.4 When a player becomes eliminated, each promissory note he
has that matches another player’s faction or color is returned to
that player.
• Promissory notes that match the eliminated player are
returned to the game box, even if another player has them.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

Also question does twelve get a status phase and the ability to trade tg if he has no ships or planets?

Probably not but I don't see how that will be possible.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 07 December 2018 - 09:02 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 December 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

IH, trade commodities?

Khell had his trade agreement so he has none to trade.

Khell, swap the TGs you just got from IH for my commodities? 1:1

I'll swap you my own commodities 1:1. Four right?

You promised to wait on trades remember.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

D, on 07 December 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 December 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hmm I'm running out of ideas for preventing a morgoth win

I'm still offering to help you move a WH to hit him. Or if you don't want to hit him anymore, I can use a WH to at least try and take a planet off of him. We don't necessarily have to take his homeworld, just make sure he doesnt get enough planets to spend 16 res (and not trade with him so he can't get 10 tg either, nor let him take anyone else's HW).

I don't need a wormhole to attack him, but he has my ceasefire.

I'm happy to let you use a wormhole other than the beta wormhole in bereg to try and attack him but he is well defended against that, and I'm not really inclined to do it for free especially as all I'm going to be doing is putting you in a position to win rather than morgoth as I'm pretty much out of the running now. Does that give you options you can use?

Oh, okay, I thought that was what you were talking about/implying(?) earlier. nvm

Yeah, beta would definitely give me more options, but even with the alpha I can still get to either of his bottom two systems via Lodor. Those systems aren't as res/inf-heavy, but if I take, e.g., Dal Bootha that at least slows him down, and if he counter-attacks his only dreadnought is Mellon/Zohbat - if he brings that in for the counterattack, it leaves Mellon/Zohbat with no ships and we could do the wormhole move again to put the WH right there and attack it, too, so it would put him a decent bind of worrying whether he should even counterattack or not.

[Khellendros]

D'rek, could you move that Destroyer out of Gwynan?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

D'rek, could you move that Destroyer out of Gwynan?

Eventually, yes. CTs are at a premium so I can't waste one on just moving it and nought else (unless you want to pay me 3 tgs so I can buy a replacement CT).

[Itwæs Nom]

@Tatts

I guess I'm going to steal Morghy's last tactical token off him before his turn, soo just so you know it in case you were going to play leadership

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw can you hold off technology then next round?

I'll play leadership the round after. If not let me know.

[Tattersail_]

Itwæs Nom, on 08 December 2018 - 04:45 PM, said:

@Tatts

I guess I'm going to steal Morghy's last tactical token off him before his turn, soo just so you know it in case you were going to play leadership

He'll have stalls.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sorry, should have asked this last night:

Gnaw, do you want to do that 4:4 Trade then?

IH, it seems very unlikely, if for no other reason than that I can't reach you.

Yeah

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 08:57 AM, said:

It's a pretty good objective yeah.

And the direct hit/dimensional slicer combo is insane... I was pissed when d'rek made me discard 2!

Sorry Gnaw, if you'd mentioned that you were going to attack before you did I would have said my action cards made it a bad idea, I was really looking forward to using that combo though!

I figured you had a direct hit. My “if/then” comments to Blend explicitly mention that possibility.

[Gnaw]

As for my commodities, feel free to make trades when it is your turn. I have 4. I’ll swap your commodities for my trade goods if my commodities are gone when your turn rolls around.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 08 December 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

D, on 07 December 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 December 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hmm I'm running out of ideas for preventing a morgoth win

I'm still offering to help you move a WH to hit him. Or if you don't want to hit him anymore, I can use a WH to at least try and take a planet off of him. We don't necessarily have to take his homeworld, just make sure he doesnt get enough planets to spend 16 res (and not trade with him so he can't get 10 tg either, nor let him take anyone else's HW).

I don't need a wormhole to attack him, but he has my ceasefire.

I'm happy to let you use a wormhole other than the beta wormhole in bereg to try and attack him but he is well defended against that, and I'm not really inclined to do it for free especially as all I'm going to be doing is putting you in a position to win rather than morgoth as I'm pretty much out of the running now. Does that give you options you can use?

Oh, okay, I thought that was what you were talking about/implying(?) earlier. nvm

Yeah, beta would definitely give me more options, but even with the alpha I can still get to either of his bottom two systems via Lodor. Those systems aren't as res/inf-heavy, but if I take, e.g., Dal Bootha that at least slows him down, and if he counter-attacks his only dreadnought is Mellon/Zohbat - if he brings that in for the counterattack, it leaves Mellon/Zohbat with no ships and we could do the wormhole move again to put the WH right there and attack it, too, so it would put him a decent bind of worrying whether he should even counterattack or not.

Okay I'm willing to let you have my wormhole PN but I'd like something in return, how about an action card or your racial PN?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 09 December 2018 - 09:42 AM, said:

D, on 08 December 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 08 December 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

D, on 07 December 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 December 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hmm I'm running out of ideas for preventing a morgoth win

I'm still offering to help you move a WH to hit him. Or if you don't want to hit him anymore, I can use a WH to at least try and take a planet off of him. We don't necessarily have to take his homeworld, just make sure he doesnt get enough planets to spend 16 res (and not trade with him so he can't get 10 tg either, nor let him take anyone else's HW).

I don't need a wormhole to attack him, but he has my ceasefire.

I'm happy to let you use a wormhole other than the beta wormhole in bereg to try and attack him but he is well defended against that, and I'm not really inclined to do it for free especially as all I'm going to be doing is putting you in a position to win rather than morgoth as I'm pretty much out of the running now. Does that give you options you can use?

Oh, okay, I thought that was what you were talking about/implying(?) earlier. nvm

Yeah, beta would definitely give me more options, but even with the alpha I can still get to either of his bottom two systems via Lodor. Those systems aren't as res/inf-heavy, but if I take, e.g., Dal Bootha that at least slows him down, and if he counter-attacks his only dreadnought is Mellon/Zohbat - if he brings that in for the counterattack, it leaves Mellon/Zohbat with no ships and we could do the wormhole move again to put the WH right there and attack it, too, so it would put him a decent bind of worrying whether he should even counterattack or not.

Okay I'm willing to let you have my wormhole PN but I'd like something in return, how about an action card or your racial PN?

All I can offer is my Political Secret or Trade Agreement

[Gnaw]

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