[twelve]

And he didn't even ask me for a refresh. I probably would have given him it too.

[Gnaw]

IH, trade commodities?

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

IH, trade commodities?

Khell had his trade agreement so he has none to trade.

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 07 December 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

IH, trade commodities?

Khell had his trade agreement so he has none to trade.

Khell, swap the TGs you just got from IH for my commodities? 1:1

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 07 December 2018 - 07:01 PM

[D'rek]

I'll trade with you, Gnaw.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 07 December 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hmm I'm running out of ideas for preventing a morgoth win

I'm still offering to help you move a WH to hit him. Or if you don't want to hit him anymore, I can use a WH to at least try and take a planet off of him. We don't necessarily have to take his homeworld, just make sure he doesnt get enough planets to spend 16 res (and not trade with him so he can't get 10 tg either, nor let him take anyone else's HW).

[Khellendros]

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 December 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 December 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

IH, trade commodities?

Khell had his trade agreement so he has none to trade.

Khell, swap the TGs you just got from IH for my commodities? 1:1

I'll swap you my own commodities 1:1. Four right?

[Gnaw]

Oh. IH is only at 7 vp?

Would you mind losing your flagship? 🙄

[Gnaw]

Sorry my friend. You’re not really in contention and I suspect you’re planning on attacking my homeworld anyways.

[Imperial Historian]

If I wanted your homeworld I'd have taken it on the many opportunities I had before. Literally every homeworld on the map is within range of my ships so why would I attack the one person who had a free nope?

Sigh now I lose the fun of swooping on someone's homeworld from half the map away. Well fingers crossed.

[Galactic Council]

Alright, I'm around, looks like I have a lot to do, so please be patient, but I'm working on getting us up to date going into the weekend!

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 08 December 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

Two points:

+ Dimensional Splicer ® -- At the start of a space combat in a system that contains a wormhole and 1 or more of your ships, you may produce 1 hit and assign it to one of your opponents ships.
The hit isn't produced by a unit. It's a function of the wormhole in conjunction with a ship.

From the faq:
Q: Can the "Shields Holding" action card be used to cancel hits from abilities that occur before combat, such as Dimensional Splicer and Devotion?A: No. "Shields Holding" may only be used to cancel hits that are produced during combat.

Dimensional splicer by the faq does not produce a hit during combat.

BH | Direct Hit | Play during space combat | After another player's ship uses Sustain Damage to cancel a hit produced by your units: Destroy that ship.

The hit was not produced by a hit from a unit and was not produced during combat. He can't use the direct hit in conjunction with the dimensional splicer.

Apparently the errata has errata. That’s complete bullshit but the modgod has spoken.

[Gnaw]

I wouldn’t have made that move if I’d know that.

[Galactic Council]

Just so it's clear to everyone, I looked up and down trying to find something online that agreed with Gnaw, but then I found words from the creator of the game:

Quote

I'm not entirely sure how that error crept in to the RR. It looks a lot like I a made a weird hacked together hybrid of two things that were supposed to be different FAQ entries (perhaps one about dimensional splicer and devotion being used with direct hit?). In any case, yes, it's wrong. Shields holding can be used against both of those abilities. I've made a note to fix it in V2.

[Khellendros]

Wait, isn't Gnaw correct then? Dimensional Splicer is not caused by a unit and therefore Direct Hit can't be applied to it?

Or am I missing further details?


Also, FUCK OFF with IH having that secret objective. What kind of piss-easy bullshit is that? Where the fuck is my one along the lines of, 'oh, just win a battle with your most powerful unit'. What the hell kind of balance is that? Bullshit.

This rant has been boiling up for some time...

[Galactic Council]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Wait, isn't Gnaw correct then? Dimensional Splicer is not caused by a unit and therefore Direct Hit can't be applied to it?

Or am I missing further details?


Also, FUCK OFF with IH having that secret objective. What kind of piss-easy bullshit is that? Where the fuck is my one along the lines of, 'oh, just win a battle with your most powerful unit'. What the hell kind of balance is that? Bullshit.

This rant has been boiling up for some time...

The game creator said that Shields Holding, which is worded the same as Direct Hit, can be used against Dimensional Splicer, so there we go.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Wait, isn't Gnaw correct then? Dimensional Splicer is not caused by a unit and therefore Direct Hit can't be applied to it?

I think it's pretty clear the "to cancel a hit produced by your units" just means hits produced by you, in general, during the space combat. If one really wanted to argue the case, they could say that the effect can't happen without IH's ships being there, therefore it is produced by his units. If they wanted the card to be specific to combat rolls, they would have used the exact term combat rolls.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 08 December 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Wait, isn't Gnaw correct then? Dimensional Splicer is not caused by a unit and therefore Direct Hit can't be applied to it?

Or am I missing further details?


Also, FUCK OFF with IH having that secret objective. What kind of piss-easy bullshit is that? Where the fuck is my one along the lines of, 'oh, just win a battle with your most powerful unit'. What the hell kind of balance is that? Bullshit.

This rant has been boiling up for some time...

Yeah, there’s a bit of rubbing salt in the wound given the disparity between the two competing SOs.

[Khellendros]

I think it's my turn? But it's 2am here and I still have to decide upon my action, so I'm going to have to leave till the morning.

[Imperial Historian]

It's a pretty good objective yeah.

And the direct hit/dimensional slicer combo is insane... I was pissed when d'rek made me discard 2!

Sorry Gnaw, if you'd mentioned that you were going to attack before you did I would have said my action cards made it a bad idea, I was really looking forward to using that combo though!