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#1461 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:03 PM

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

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View PostImperial Historian, on 31 July 2018 - 07:07 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

IH, looks like Tatts is going to charge you for my refresh. And Gnaw is stating once I'm gone he won't attack Tatts which leaves you and Khell (who I assume will be parked in the asteroid field next to Rex) as his likely targets. If you pop Leadership first I'll have the ability to pay for the refresh but I would like some additional things to go with it that would be mutually beneficial to you as well.

Nom, Khell how much will it cost me to get one or both of you to hit Gnaw's homeworld?

What do you want? I think gnaw will probably turtle after this but you might be right. Since tatts is trying to extort me now though...


This is what I'm thinking. You Attack Gnaws Homeworld as your first action. That will force Gnaw to pop his ceasefire card. or lose one of his homeworlds I plop Diplomacy on the Meer system trapping his fleet there. For your second action you play leadership which still fulfills Tatts requirement for your deal for his hazhaard planet (see you are hedging your bets here). I attack Everra. And Then depending what Gnaw does you can attack Daemon to gain the Public objectiive and my sftt card. or if it's too much of a risk you complete your deal with tTatts.. The longer Gnaw has to deal with me the longer it takes before he can bear his flagship to cause trouble for you or Khell. This plan also has the chance of actually destroying this flagship too. which also is a good thing for his neighbors.


He's already made his first action.
It's your turn.



And now we wait for IH to come on, see Twelve's proposal, reply that he's already taken his turn, then Twelve to say something to the effect of "but it's still your turn you can change your mind", etc etc.


Sorry twelve already taken my turn, and there doesn't seem much benefit to me for antagonizing gnaw who has been peaceful so far for little return. Plus I've already agreed not to take Daemon.

I don't particularly want you out of the game but have no desire to get into a war to help you.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:07 PM

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 31 July 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 31 July 2018 - 07:07 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

IH, looks like Tatts is going to charge you for my refresh. And Gnaw is stating once I'm gone he won't attack Tatts which leaves you and Khell (who I assume will be parked in the asteroid field next to Rex) as his likely targets. If you pop Leadership first I'll have the ability to pay for the refresh but I would like some additional things to go with it that would be mutually beneficial to you as well.

Nom, Khell how much will it cost me to get one or both of you to hit Gnaw's homeworld?

What do you want? I think gnaw will probably turtle after this but you might be right. Since tatts is trying to extort me now though...


This is what I'm thinking. You Attack Gnaws Homeworld as your first action. That will force Gnaw to pop his ceasefire card. or lose one of his homeworlds I plop Diplomacy on the Meer system trapping his fleet there. For your second action you play leadership which still fulfills Tatts requirement for your deal for his hazhaard planet (see you are hedging your bets here). I attack Everra. And Then depending what Gnaw does you can attack Daemon to gain the Public objectiive and my sftt card. or if it's too much of a risk you complete your deal with tTatts.. The longer Gnaw has to deal with me the longer it takes before he can bear his flagship to cause trouble for you or Khell. This plan also has the chance of actually destroying this flagship too. which also is a good thing for his neighbors.


He's already made his first action.
It's your turn.



And now we wait for IH to come on, see Twelve's proposal, reply that he's already taken his turn, then Twelve to say something to the effect of "but it's still your turn you can change your mind", etc etc.

You Sir Are A FUCKING asshole.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:08 PM

View Posttwelve, on 31 July 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 31 July 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 31 July 2018 - 07:07 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

IH, looks like Tatts is going to charge you for my refresh. And Gnaw is stating once I'm gone he won't attack Tatts which leaves you and Khell (who I assume will be parked in the asteroid field next to Rex) as his likely targets. If you pop Leadership first I'll have the ability to pay for the refresh but I would like some additional things to go with it that would be mutually beneficial to you as well.

Nom, Khell how much will it cost me to get one or both of you to hit Gnaw's homeworld?

What do you want? I think gnaw will probably turtle after this but you might be right. Since tatts is trying to extort me now though...


This is what I'm thinking. You Attack Gnaws Homeworld as your first action. That will force Gnaw to pop his ceasefire card. or lose one of his homeworlds I plop Diplomacy on the Meer system trapping his fleet there. For your second action you play leadership which still fulfills Tatts requirement for your deal for his hazhaard planet (see you are hedging your bets here). I attack Everra. And Then depending what Gnaw does you can attack Daemon to gain the Public objectiive and my sftt card. or if it's too much of a risk you complete your deal with tTatts.. The longer Gnaw has to deal with me the longer it takes before he can bear his flagship to cause trouble for you or Khell. This plan also has the chance of actually destroying this flagship too. which also is a good thing for his neighbors.


He's already made his first action.
It's your turn.



And now we wait for IH to come on, see Twelve's proposal, reply that he's already taken his turn, then Twelve to say something to the effect of "but it's still your turn you can change your mind", etc etc.

You Sir Are A FUCKING asshole.


To be fair, Gnaw is a ruthless bastard. He's a scary neighbour to have.

Oh wait...
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:18 PM

Tapper is up.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:20 PM

IH I am trading with you 1:1 correct, and you're doing 3 for 2 with Nom
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM

I’m assuming that since I don’t actually have any exhausted planets I can’t use the Diplomacy secondary. So no easy Ensepta for me.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM

D’rek is entirely right though tatts. Why would you chose to give someone a whole bunch of points like that. And for so absurdly little. Points are forever and you’re giving them away for free.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:26 PM

Nom, 2:2? IH, 1:1?
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:33 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

D'rek is entirely right though tatts. Why would you chose to give someone a whole bunch of points like that. And for so absurdly little. Points are forever and you're giving them away for free.


It's not like he is not going to get those points with or without the refresh, so I was hoping to earn a little on the side, however with D'rek fully explaining the decision then I am going to deny him a free refresh. Nom or Tapper are the only ones who can prevent him from entering Mecatol Rex and spending the influence though. In fact, Nom may not even have a chance as he moves after Khell, so it is Tapper on his first turn that may do some bits but we'll have to see AND he is paying attention with that verbal assault on me earlier. Depends if he gives a shit about Khell taking and holding Rex.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:34 PM

He has exactly 6 influence planets. That's what he needs for Rex.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:41 PM

Unless someone takes one.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:42 PM

Here i am talking politics from a small speakeasy bar in Singapore. I have issues.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:42 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 31 July 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

Here i am talking politics from a small speakeasy bar in Singapore. I have issues.


I am jealous. Let that be known.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:47 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 31 July 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

Here i am talking politics from a small speakeasy bar in Singapore. I have issues.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:49 PM

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

I’m assuming that since I don’t actually have any exhausted planets I can’t use the Diplomacy secondary. So no easy Ensepta for me.


I am pretty sure you can still use Peace Accords without readying planets. For you, the DIPLOMACY secondary becomes two effects intead of just 1, and you can execute both or just 1 effect each time you perform the secondary.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:54 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 31 July 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

D'rek is entirely right though tatts. Why would you chose to give someone a whole bunch of points like that. And for so absurdly little. Points are forever and you're giving them away for free.


It's not like he is not going to get those points with or without the refresh, so I was hoping to earn a little on the side, however with D'rek fully explaining the decision then I am going to deny him a free refresh. Nom or Tapper are the only ones who can prevent him from entering Mecatol Rex and spending the influence though. In fact, Nom may not even have a chance as he moves after Khell, so it is Tapper on his first turn that may do some bits but we'll have to see AND he is paying attention with that verbal assault on me earlier. Depends if he gives a shit about Khell taking and holding Rex.

I care about him migrating away from me and I care about him not getting too many points - I remember last game. On the whole though, I prefer to peacefully snap up his empire in his wake.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:56 PM

View PostD, on 31 July 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 31 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm assuming that since I don't actually have any exhausted planets I can't use the Diplomacy secondary. So no easy Ensepta for me.


I am pretty sure you can still use Peace Accords without readying planets. For you, the DIPLOMACY secondary becomes two effects intead of just 1, and you can execute both or just 1 effect each time you perform the secondary.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 04:07 PM

Yawn. As apparently I'm going to have the greatest round in history, guess I'll just kick back and let all these amazing things happen.

Tatts, I'm willing to pay an extra TG for the refresh, forgive your succumbing to naked scaremongering, and not use an AC on you.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 04:24 PM

Also since it's just struck me that twelve seems to be operating under a different assumption to me on how gnaws nullification field works. Ends your turn does that mean the specific activation is stopped or you are forced to pass. I had assumed the latter but twelve seems to suggest the former.
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 04:27 PM

Ah I see you have already succumbed to Drek's self-interest, Congrats Tatts for being a patsy.
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