[Gnaw]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Yes. Agreed.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 20 July 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

Tatts I wasn't expecting you to use construction card so soon.

I'm sure he has his reasons...

[twelve]

D, on 20 July 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

So do you think Twelve has an Unexpected Action AC and plans to take MR at the end of this round once IH moves the destroyer, or what?

Nope but that would be awesome. I want to have a clear shot at Rex next round but fear It wont be but one can hope.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 20 July 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

D, on 20 July 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

So do you think Twelve has an Unexpected Action AC and plans to take MR at the end of this round once IH moves the destroyer, or what?

Nope but that would be awesome. I want to have a clear shot at Rex next round but fear It wont be but one can hope.

Your insistence on the timing sounds like it isn't so simple/predictable as that, though... I am suspicious.

[Itwæs Nom]

Imperial Historian, on 20 July 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 05:27 PM, said:

@IH what about you pay Tatts for my action card trade with Gnaw so I can agree to the alpha wormhole placement on Mehar Xull? Or use your good relations to not have to pay anything or whatever, obviously I wouldn't be pillaging this particular trade

Where's the turtles again

I think that's a few too many steps to be agreeing a deal. Tatts needs to place the wormhole and gnaw needs to agree (and be happy having the alpha wormhole there which I think he isn't, in which case the deal is off anyway)

Yeah but Tatts previously offered to place the wormhole there himself

About Gnaw not being happy about the wormhole, the wormhole only stays there for 1 round right? And I've repeatedly said I'm not going to go through the wormhole to his side of it, plus he has his flagship's space cannon, plus his space dock's space cannon if he accepts my offer - that's the point of giving him the card, so that even if I did at some point want to go through he'll have an additional mean to cripple my move. And even if he chooses to stay off Lodor completely, which I would welcome dearly, I'd still agree not to go through or pillage him if he parked a ship at his own alpha hex for the duration of my stay on Lodor. Actually I'm the one taking the biggest risk here, look at his goddamn fleet, and I'm placing it 2 hexes away from my he for this one round. Obviously I'd want his assurance that he won't go through the wormhole next to my hw too.

[Itwæs Nom]

I mean this all wouldn't sound so complicated if Gnaw bothered talking to me, fingers crossed for when he's back

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 20 July 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 05:27 PM, said:

@IH what about you pay Tatts for my action card trade with Gnaw so I can agree to the alpha wormhole placement on Mehar Xull? Or use your good relations to not have to pay anything or whatever, obviously I wouldn't be pillaging this particular trade

Where's the turtles again

I think that's a few too many steps to be agreeing a deal. Tatts needs to place the wormhole and gnaw needs to agree (and be happy having the alpha wormhole there which I think he isn't, in which case the deal is off anyway)

Yeah but Tatts previously offered to place the wormhole there himself

About Gnaw not being happy about the wormhole, the wormhole only stays there for 1 round right? And I've repeatedly said I'm not going to go through the wormhole to his side of it, plus he has his flagship's space cannon, plus his space dock's space cannon if he accepts my offer - that's the point of giving him the card, so that even if I did at some point want to go through he'll have an additional mean to cripple my move. And even if he chooses to stay off Lodor completely, which I would welcome dearly, I'd still agree not to go through or pillage him if he parked a ship at his own alpha hex for the duration of my stay on Lodor. Actually I'm the one taking the biggest risk here, look at his goddamn fleet, and I'm placing it 2 hexes away from my he for this one round. Obviously I'd want his assurance that he won't go through the wormhole next to my hw too.

I don't understand what you are supposed to be getting out of this Nom? You're giving away an amazing AC in exchange for granting dangerous fleets access to one of your own planets...?

[Khellendros]

Nom, Gnaw did reply here.

Gnaw, on 20 July 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Yes. Agreed.

But I'm with D'rek - what do you get out of this again?

[Itwæs Nom]

I'm just trying to not be slowing the game once Gnaw gets here by waiting for his answer before talking all the other deals I have in mind, I mean if he says no then nothing's happened and if he says yes we don't have to waste another time negotiating after that, and I'm probably going out soon and might not be back until uh early morning

[Itwæs Nom]

Ah well nice then, lemme get my computer

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm just trying to not be slowing the game once Gnaw gets here by waiting for his answer before talking all the other deals I have in mind, I mean if he says no then nothing's happened and if he says yes we don't have to waste another time negotiating after that, and I'm probably going out soon and might not be back until uh early morning

Um, ok, but saying no to a deal that you get nothing out of is just as quick. I still don't see what you actually gain from this deal? You could just... take any other action.

[D'rek]

And besides, Morgoth rarely/never submits provisionals so we're going to be waiting for Indonesia time anyways. Don't worry about slowing down the game

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

[Itwæs Nom]

Long story short: I've complicated plans for this round and I'm trying to ensure everything goes as smoothly as possible, I need Lodor for that and Gnaw's in a position to thwart those plans easily and he seems rather inclined to do so - not intentionally but for his own gain, also I've pretty much no idea what his race benefits off of most

Well Blend's just revealed something to me that I didn't take into account so I need to do a bit rethinking

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

For the love of god, don't give Experimental Battlestation to someone with Floating Factories...

[Khellendros]

D, on 20 July 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

For the love of god, don't give Experimental Battlestation to someone with Floating Factories...

Shush you! Don't you want to see it in all its glory?

[Gnaw]

I spy a drunken Viking.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

D, on 20 July 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

For the love of god, don't give Experimental Battlestation to someone with Floating Factories...

Shush you! Don't you want to see it in all its glory?

No!

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

D, on 20 July 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

For the love of god, don't give Experimental Battlestation to someone with Floating Factories...

Shush you! Don't you want to see it in all its glory?

Well, with that attitude, I'd want to see it go to Gnaw and witness someone try to attack an Xxcha system with 4 PDS + Xxcha Flagship + Experimental Battleship (+ Plasma Scoring)

[Khellendros]

D, on 20 July 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

D, on 20 July 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now I just need Gnaw to accept my offer IH

Khell about when are you intending to play logistics? I could pay you 1 tg, possibly 2 if I get to pillage IH this round, or pay the rest next round if not or you wanted more, to play it 2nd turn? I'm also not in rush for you to take the carrier away, but there's some chance I'll destroy it by the end of the turn if it's still there, as you didn't seem bothered by that happening. What do you say?

That'd mean I'd need @Gnaw to hold off 3 turns before taking Lodor. Well you have to play warfare first anyway so that means waiting 2 turns, is that acceptable for the action card, my dear slithery excoconsul?

Hmm, IH has made this difficult for you as well. Originally I would have been forced to play Logistics 2nd turn, but as he's already played Leadership I no longer need to. But yes, I could for a small payment. My preference would obviously be that AC (and I'd give YOU a small payment on top of it), but sounds like that's going to Gnaw). Otherwise, perhaps your Trade Agreement and when you refresh that's 2 TG and I give you the PN back.

For the love of god, don't give Experimental Battlestation to someone with Floating Factories...

Shush you! Don't you want to see it in all its glory?

Well, with that attitude, I'd want to see it go to Gnaw and witness someone try to attack an Xxcha system with 4 PDS + Xxcha Flagship + Experimental Battleship (+ Plasma Scoring)

Ah, so you agree that it's safer in my hands than Gnaw's. Great!