[Morgoth]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

I am not going to always pick trade as I get a free refresh anyway, but it still stands, I am not going to extort people.

"Give me a free refresh or I invade your systems with my giant fleet."

"Uh, okay, let's forget that TG payment."

Big talk from a cute little fuzzball

[Imperial Historian]

I'm looking to spread out the wormholes currently there are lots of wormholes next to or very near each other, the map is a lot more fun if the wormholes are spread out.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

I'm looking to spread out the wormholes currently there are lots of wormholes next to or very near each other, the map is a lot more fun if the wormholes are spread out.

Ok deal.

[Imperial Historian]

Tatts how about you place the wormhole on 12, zej raja next to me and gravity rift on 7 and I'll give you my racial PN on the condition you play it within the first two turns?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tatts how about you place the wormhole on 12, zej raja next to me and gravity rift on 7 and I'll give you my racial PN on the condition you play it within the first two turns?

Is that with Sakalug being placed next to me?

If so deal

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 11 July 2018 - 12:08 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

I'm looking to spread out the wormholes currently there are lots of wormholes next to or very near each other, the map is a lot more fun if the wormholes are spread out.

Ok deal.

Deal for what?

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tatts how about you place the wormhole on 12, zej raja next to me and gravity rift on 7 and I'll give you my racial PN on the condition you play it within the first two turns?

Is that with Sakalug being placed next to me?

Yes sakulag placed by you, industrial yellow tech 1/0, hazardous 2/1

[Imperial Historian]

Ok done.

[Tattersail_]

I will put Gravity drive in 7, thingy in 43, beta wormhole in 12, in return for you putting sakulug next to me and racial PN that I have to use in first 2 turns.?

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

1. I am Hacan.
2. Hacan can trade with EVERYONE
3. ?????
4. Mentak profits.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 11 July 2018 - 12:26 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 11 July 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

1. I am Hacan.
2. Hacan can trade with EVERYONE
3. ?????
4. Mentak profits.

This is why I wanted to play mentak

[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

Tapper, on 11 July 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

1. I am Hacan.
2. Hacan can trade with EVERYONE
3. ?????
4. Mentak profits.

This is why I wanted to play mentak

They seem really cool, and that tech that changes the value of TG is bonkers.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D'rek regardless of what they are, you have the ring around your homeworld and I'll have the ring around mine. We can work expansion with one of us taking 10 and one taking 11. Thoughts?

Mmmm, no. 10 is obviously more in my domain (2 steps from my HW, 3 steps from yours). Likewise, 12 is obviously more in your domain (2 stesp from you, 3 from me), so I won't contest your claim to that whatsoever. But 11 is equidistant to both of us, so some additional negotiation/boons will be needed if you want me to relinquish any claim to it.

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 10 July 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

IH I have 2 wormhole hexes. Not sure what you have to give me for one next to your homeworld/creuss gate.

Nooooooo, don't do it.

I know its 100% what they need. Last game I didn't have that advantage.

Yes, exactly. But you're not them anymore!

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 12:00 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

I am not going to always pick trade as I get a free refresh anyway, but it still stands, I am not going to extort people.

"Give me a free refresh or I invade your systems with my giant fleet."

"Uh, okay, let's forget that TG payment."

Big talk from a cute little fuzzball

Am I a bear? A bat? Who knows!

[Tattersail_]

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D'rek regardless of what they are, you have the ring around your homeworld and I'll have the ring around mine. We can work expansion with one of us taking 10 and one taking 11. Thoughts?

Mmmm, no. 10 is obviously more in my domain (2 steps from my HW, 3 steps from yours). Likewise, 12 is obviously more in your domain (2 stesp from you, 3 from me), so I won't contest your claim to that whatsoever. But 11 is equidistant to both of us, so some additional negotiation/boons will be needed if you want me to relinquish any claim to it.

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 10 July 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

IH I have 2 wormhole hexes. Not sure what you have to give me for one next to your homeworld/creuss gate.

Nooooooo, don't do it.

I know its 100% what they need. Last game I didn't have that advantage.

Yes, exactly. But you're not them anymore!

It's a moot point now as I am not putting one there. Should we discuss hexes once map is populated, obviously I want a good relationship with you.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 11 July 2018 - 07:32 AM, said:

My considerations:


For D'rek:
#9: 46 (empty hex)
#10: Arnor-Lor (3/3 spread over 2 planets)

For Twelve/Gnaw
#27: Nevant (1/2 red tech)
#28: Everra (3/1 nebula)

For Bliss:
#45: Silvano (2/2 with green tech, which gives Bliss Cruiser II on her first research opportunity --> I think that's just as good or better for you as Arnor-Lor would be).

I hope Bliss and D'rek repay me in kind.

I'm thinking about it... my options are a bit weird, and unfortunately I have to pick that 21 near you before seeing what Gnaw will stick next to me - if he plops a supernova in front of me and forces me on a north-only route it changes things quite a bit. (And @Gnaw - I don't think you ever replied about the possible setup deal between me, you, and Tatts?)

The problem is that I only have 3 systems with planets, and 1 of them is already promised to Morgoth. And Arnor-Lor isn't *that* great, because the Res/Inf division of the planets is so spread, even if I do like the idea of an empty hex in 9 to keep our borders nice and clear. Hmmm...

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 01:29 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D'rek regardless of what they are, you have the ring around your homeworld and I'll have the ring around mine. We can work expansion with one of us taking 10 and one taking 11. Thoughts?

Mmmm, no. 10 is obviously more in my domain (2 steps from my HW, 3 steps from yours). Likewise, 12 is obviously more in your domain (2 stesp from you, 3 from me), so I won't contest your claim to that whatsoever. But 11 is equidistant to both of us, so some additional negotiation/boons will be needed if you want me to relinquish any claim to it.

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 10 July 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

IH I have 2 wormhole hexes. Not sure what you have to give me for one next to your homeworld/creuss gate.

Nooooooo, don't do it.

I know its 100% what they need. Last game I didn't have that advantage.

Yes, exactly. But you're not them anymore!

It's a moot point now as I am not putting one there. Should we discuss hexes once map is populated, obviously I want a good relationship with you.

I still think the 3-way #3/#24/#30 exchange with Gnaw has some merit

[Tapper]

D, on 11 July 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

Tapper, on 11 July 2018 - 07:32 AM, said:

My considerations:


For D'rek:
#9: 46 (empty hex)
#10: Arnor-Lor (3/3 spread over 2 planets)

For Twelve/Gnaw
#27: Nevant (1/2 red tech)
#28: Everra (3/1 nebula)

For Bliss:
#45: Silvano (2/2 with green tech, which gives Bliss Cruiser II on her first research opportunity --> I think that's just as good or better for you as Arnor-Lor would be).

I hope Bliss and D'rek repay me in kind.

I'm thinking about it... my options are a bit weird, and unfortunately I have to pick that 21 near you before seeing what Gnaw will stick next to me - if he plops a supernova in front of me and forces me on a north-only route it changes things quite a bit. (And @Gnaw - I don't think you ever replied about the possible setup deal between me, you, and Tatts?)

The problem is that I only have 3 systems with planets, and 1 of them is already promised to Morgoth. And Arnor-Lor isn't *that* great, because the Res/Inf division of the planets is so spread, even if I do like the idea of an empty hex in 9 to keep our borders nice and clear. Hmmm...

Gnaw suggested a blank for 24 per his post here.

[Khellendros]

BLISS SAVE US FROM THIS NONSENSE AND PUT DOWN A HEX!

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 01:42 PM, said:

BLISS SAVE US FROM THIS NONSENSE AND PUT DOWN A HEX!

As soon as she does, I will place #3. I won't hold up the game with deliberation before my placement.