[Tattersail_]

I'm not bothered about PDS fire as much as orhers are. I don't intend to move into Nevant Gnaw and if someone decides they want to invade my systems then they decide to become my enemy. My systems are not nearly as good as most people's but they are still mine.

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 20 May 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 May 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

Blend, on 20 May 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

Anyway, I was really hoping for you to not give the research PN to Tapper. It hasn't come around to my turn to refresh commodities yet. I could pretty easily just not refresh them, hold those 6 TGs hostage so to speak...

That is well within your power to do if you so chose.

Twelve, I'd be interested in that PN after Tapper.

Blend gets it after Tapper if he still wants it. What are you willing to offer for it?

[Imperial Historian]

Crossing the Atlantic today so don't know when I'll be able to post next. Will be in new Jersey timezone for the rest of the week. Have left a provisional with drek.

[Morgoth]

Gnaw, I'm happy to trade with you again.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

Khell's ships

Read up thread, they were in Mec Rex but with no ship to hold them, no one realised but moved them back to the carrier they came in with/that moved out.

[Khellendros]

Judging by all the messages I have, it's my turn Gonna catch up with what I missed yesterday and then decide what to do, so will make my move later this morning.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 20 May 2018 - 08:31 AM, said:

Twelve are you really hitting PDS fire at systems not in your control?

Edit although it is only Lodor that affects this deal?

Well, well, where' Tatts planning to go which is in range of Twelve's cannons?

[Khellendros]

Gnaw, on 20 May 2018 - 06:59 PM, said:

So, speaking of His Slowness:

Khell. I've been providing you PDSII coverage on Rex for free. I think to continue this coverage you should pay a small service fee. What are 3 shots at any invader worth to you?

Not much as my defence relies almost exclusively on leaving others to fight over space while I keep the planets. Still, it might be funny for them to lose a few ships...but in order to offer you something I'd also need something a bit more back as I can take or leave the PDS fire. First, that if someone comes to you with a deal to switch off the PDS on Mecatol, you cannot accept it (I don't want to pay you for nothing). Second, no firing on my ships either, if you were thinking of including them in any PDS fire plan Third, which is basically the same as second, a non-aggression pact between us.

In return I can offer you a variety of PNs (I don't know if we're connected, we might have to wait for the agenda phase to give it to you), but not much else, unless there's something less material that you wanted.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 20 May 2018 - 04:45 PM, said:

Tapper, on 20 May 2018 - 10:10 AM, said:

Twelve: with regards to your answer to Gnaw abour backing out of an agreement and our deal being agreed or not because it wasn't one of our turns: it is neither your turn nor Blend's, either.

So your agreement with him regarding the 6 TGs is just as invalid as you ours was, by the same criteria.

I agree especially since I haven't had a chance to cash in on it from the lase deal I made with him for it.

Blend, on 20 May 2018 - 01:42 PM, said:

Twelve - So my offer is my Trade Agreement in exchange for keeping your PDS fire aimed at anyone in my systems, and give me back your research PN.

I think that is perfectly reasonable.

This is substantially different than what I thought the offer for backing out of the deal with Tapper was in the first place. Still a good offer and one I would accept if I hadn't worked out a deal for the PN already. I

Tapper, on 20 May 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

That is significantly different from 6 TG to not make this deal....

Agreed. Still a very good offer, but not as awesome as I initially thought, and I would accept Blends offer if we hadn't already worked something out. I would, in consideration of my good neighbor, like to make one further addendum to our deal and that is in regards to the PDS fire. As in if your ships come within their range they will be fired upon. I won't use Graviton Lasers on them (As I try and save them for defense of my own systems anyway) If that requires me to honor some or all of the five committed votes from our previous arrangement I would put that back on the table. And based on the map that should only be the wormhole hex.

Perfect, and agreed.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 May 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 20 May 2018 - 08:31 AM, said:

Twelve are you really hitting PDS fire at systems not in your control?

Edit although it is only Lodor that affects this deal?

Well, well, where' Tatts planning to go which is in range of Twelve's cannons?

I was just flabbergasted that he might protect another player

[Khellendros]

@Blend:

Let me know if you didn't want to play the Trade Agreement PN and I will amend.

[Tattersail_]

Khell and that Orb drop, I knew you'd do it as well, but was hoping I could build before coming in. Pretty much in your favour at the moment.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 21 May 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

Khell and that Orb drop, I knew you'd do it as well, but was hoping I could build before coming in. Pretty much in your favour at the moment.

You almost psyched me out of doing it with that post earlier which was like, "oh you could still do OD next go... " I'm still nervous about it!

[Tattersail_]

I thought I might, but you didn't fall for that Khell.

I am going away Tuesday afternoon until Thursday night but hopefully should have some moments I can get on. I have left a provisional with D'rek but may be here to implement that once Blend gets out of bed.

[Khellendros]

Is 'a round' like one go of the dice, or for the duration of the combat?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 May 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Is 'a round' like one go of the dice, or for the duration of the combat?

I'm assuming one go of the dice but hoping for duration of the combat

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 21 May 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 May 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Is 'a round' like one go of the dice, or for the duration of the combat?

I'm assuming one go of the dice but hoping for duration of the combat

Sol ain't afraid of no ghosts.

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 21 May 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

Khell's ships

Read up thread, they were in Mec Rex but with no ship to hold them, no one realised but moved them back to the carrier they came in with/that moved out.

Seriously? That alters the board quite a bit and I have done several moves in that area since. I don’t think that’s ok.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 May 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

Khell's ships

Read up thread, they were in Mec Rex but with no ship to hold them, no one realised but moved them back to the carrier they came in with/that moved out.

Seriously? That alters the board quite a bit and I have done several moves in that area since. I don’t think that’s ok.

I didn't know the rule that fighters couldn't be left alone (otherwise I would always have taken them with the carrier) and no one noticed till IH pointed it out the other day.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 21 May 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 May 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 May 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

Khell's ships

Read up thread, they were in Mec Rex but with no ship to hold them, no one realised but moved them back to the carrier they came in with/that moved out.

Seriously? That alters the board quite a bit and I have done several moves in that area since. I don’t think that’s ok.

I didn't know the rule that fighters couldn't be left alone (otherwise I would always have taken them with the carrier) and no one noticed till IH pointed it out the other day.

Like Khell said we had to retcon it a bit due to everyone missing it. This was a couple days ago, no one seemed too fussed at the time.

Can't see how it would have changed much for you Morgoth. All your fleets/fleet movements have been much bigger than to have balked at 3 fighters, so all the same decision'ing still makes sense insofar as you having moved to Quann even if there were 3 fighters there and Khell retreating them with the carrier so either way they'd never have been in combat.