[Tattersail_]

 Messremb, on 08 February 2018 - 08:03 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 08 February 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

I've voted no, Nom can you pick Messremb as your chancellor as he chose liberal last time

Says Tatts the Trustworthy.

Thanks Mess. I hope you mean that

[Tattersail_]

 Nevyn, on 07 February 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 07 February 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

So if I am president I get fascist powers? Does that change me from liberal to fascist? I doubt it very much, to win we need 6 liberal policies, so i'd be trying to promote the liberal policy regardless of any powers I may absorb.

The second president to enact a fascist policy (there hasn't been 1 yet), gets a power after enacting it.

Keep in mind that a president doesn't have perfect control of policies. They could draw 3 fascist policies, or pass 1 of each to a fascist chancellor.

Here Nevyn. I didn't know this until you pointed it out. Maybe D'rek didn't either but felt comfortable lying afterwards.

[Nevyn]

I hope he doesn't, because the only way he could possibly know would be to be a fascist.

You are at best 50-50 a fascist to liberals. Normally I'd be more suspicious of the chancellor, but if we run back the cause votes

Nein for Drek, Dolmen
Nein for Dolmen, Mess
Ja for Tatts, Drek

so, there's that ....

[Tattersail_]

I could've come out and said I only had 3 fascist cards. That would have been a lie but could have been true. What did D'rek say before Mac posted the results. Tatts you dick... Not knowing if I did it on purpose, and she didn't outright accuse me of being a fascist either. So believe what you want but I'm liberal and D'rek is fascist.

[Nevyn]

 Tattersail_, on 08 February 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

I could've come out and said I only had 3 fascist cards. That would have been a lie but could have been true. What did D'rek say before Mac posted the results. Tatts you dick... Not knowing if I did it on purpose, and she didn't outright accuse me of being a fascist either. So believe what you want but I'm liberal and D'rek is fascist.

Which is why I'm currently avoiding you both. At the moment I don't actually need to trust EITHER of you.

[Vengeance]

 Nevyn, on 08 February 2018 - 08:28 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 08 February 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

I could've come out and said I only had 3 fascist cards. That would have been a lie but could have been true. What did D'rek say before Mac posted the results. Tatts you dick... Not knowing if I did it on purpose, and she didn't outright accuse me of being a fascist either. So believe what you want but I'm liberal and D'rek is fascist.

Which is why I'm currently avoiding you both. At the moment I don't actually need to trust EITHER of you.

^

[Cause]

 Macros, on 08 February 2018 - 08:09 PM, said:

Theres like 7 neins in already.
no pm yet from Cause

but I think we can Roll on.

That is a FAILED ATTEMPT AT GOVERNMENT.
strike one

next up is

Ohmnomnomnomnomnom

your chancellor please President nomnom

The president gets to vote on their own government?

[Nevyn]

 Cause, on 08 February 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

The president gets to vote on their own government?

Yes.

Doesn't happen as often in secret hitler as something like resistance, but it is not completely unheard of for a person to vote AGAINST their own government, because they aren't sure of their chancellor and want to see how everyone else voted.

[Dolmen 2.0]

So are we waiting on Noms nomination?

If I understand it right its the big one where Hitler being appointed Chancellor is the end game?

[Tattersail_]

 Dolmen 2.0, on 09 February 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

So are we waiting on Noms nomination?

If I understand it right its the big one where Hitler being appointed Chancellor is the end game?

No. Please explain?

We have 1 Liberal policy enacted and 1 Fascist policy enacted. End game for Fascists they need 3 fascist policies enacted AND Hitler as chancellor OR 6 fascist policies enacted.

Quote

If three or more Fascist Policies have beenenacted already:Ask if the new Chancellor is Hitler. Ifso, the game is over and the Fascists win.Otherwise, other players know for sure theChancellor is not Hitler.

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• Fascists most often win by electing Hitler,not by enacting six Policies! Electing Hitlerisn’t an optional or secondary win condition,it’s the core of a successful Fascist strategy.Hitler should always play as a Liberal, andshould generally avoid lying or getting intofights and disagreements with other players.When the time comes, Hitler needs the Liberals’trust to get elected. Even if Hitler isn’tultimately elected, the distrust sown amongLiberals is key to getting Fascists elected latein the game.

wondering whether Dolem is playing dumb on purpose*

[Dolmen 2.0]

 Tattersail_, on 09 February 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

 Dolmen 2.0, on 09 February 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

So are we waiting on Noms nomination?

If I understand it right its the big one where Hitler being appointed Chancellor is the end game?

No. Please explain?

We have 1 Liberal policy enacted and 1 Fascist policy enacted. End game for Fascists they need 3 fascist policies enacted AND Hitler as chancellor OR 6 fascist policies enacted.

Quote

If three or more Fascist Policies have beenenacted already:Ask if the new Chancellor is Hitler. Ifso, the game is over and the Fascists win.Otherwise, other players know for sure theChancellor is not Hitler.

Quote

• Fascists most often win by electing Hitler,not by enacting six Policies! Electing Hitlerisn’t an optional or secondary win condition,it’s the core of a successful Fascist strategy.Hitler should always play as a Liberal, andshould generally avoid lying or getting intofights and disagreements with other players.When the time comes, Hitler needs the Liberals’trust to get elected. Even if Hitler isn’tultimately elected, the distrust sown amongLiberals is key to getting Fascists elected latein the game.

wondering whether Dolem is playing dumb on purpose*

Dolem was not playing dumb. As you may know sometimes me not paying attention to stuff does work in my favor as I've done in previous games of Mafia, but this is not one of those times.

I did not understand Hitler and fascists had to have three fascist policies in place first then Hitler as Chancellor to win. I thought Hitler in as Chancellor was enough.

I've been tense all game because I thought we had to avoid anything Hitler shaped by Turn number three. I'm way more relaxed now.

I then suppose Hitler can only EVER be chancellor by turn 4 if, for some bizarre reason 3 fascist policies were played in the first three rounds. Now I'm actually inclined to see some of the no-term players like Venge or Nevyn be chancellor for some reference of play in a power position.

[Cause]

So do we have an actual strategy yet?

[Nevyn]

 Dolmen 2.0, on 09 February 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

So are we waiting on Noms nomination?

If I understand it right its the big one where Hitler being appointed Chancellor is the end game?

No, there would have to be two more fascist policies fast before hitler can win it by being chancellor.

All that happens here is the president on the next fascist policy gets to investigate the loyalty of another player.

[Nevyn]

 Cause, on 09 February 2018 - 01:24 PM, said:

So do we have an actual strategy yet?

Just waiting on nomnomnom's noms I think.

But we don't need a bunch of doubletalk from you right now, we need Bob Loblaw.

[Vengeance]

So my break down

Tatts, Drek, Cause all potential Facists/hitler

Mess, Dolman potential liberals/hitler

Me liberal

Everyone else potential hitler


So yeah.

[Nevyn]

 Vengeance, on 09 February 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:

So my break down

Tatts, Drek, Cause all potential Facists/hitler

Mess, Dolman potential liberals/hitler

Me liberal

Everyone else potential hitler


So yeah.

It is tough to win when you are the only liberal with 7 hitlers...

[Itwæs Nom]

Shit sorry forgot about this

I nominate Messremb as chancellor

Because as Chancellor he had less power than Dolmen as president, I guess

[Nevyn]

Seems backwards

[Dolmen 2.0]

 Itwæs Nom, on 09 February 2018 - 05:27 PM, said:

Shit sorry forgot about this

I nominate Messremb as chancellor

Because as Chancellor he had less power than Dolmen as president, I guess

Hmmmn. I think Nom gets some credit for attempting to try for Messremb again. If we get another Liberal card i’d be inclined to peg both as Liberal and we can cycle through to Venge and Nevyn later, ideally in one govt to get maximum information.

That ofcourse is what I think will get us more liberal policies enacted.

We could also ask Nom to do a find on Tatts or d’rek. Finding out one identity kinda tells us a bit about the other although nothing would be set in stone...just less uncertain.

[Tattersail_]

He doesn't have a find. 🙈

I accept based on Mess' last result.