[Aranatha]

Eldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.

Loved Broken Empire, haven't gotten around to reading anything more from Mark yet though

[Eldat Pressen]

I was meant to check back in before I went to bed but I forgot. Glad we got the lynch though.

[Thyrllan]

Damn I had meant to vote... fell asleep.

[Tennes]

Morning, everyone. Looks like we're still waiting for Blend.

"Broken Empire" was ok. World-building was neat, but Jorg annoyed me as a character, and I saw the twist coming. "Red Queen's war" was better, imho.

[Path-Shaper]

Apologies for the wait.

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 40 minutes since time out

12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
7 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick, Ay Estos, Osseric )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Nimander Golit, Thyrllan


Dejim Nebrahl was lynched. He was a Roleless Innocent and Macros.

[Path-Shaper]

Will get night resolved shortly, have a bit of actual RL work to do first.

[Path-Shaper]

Thyrllan has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Andorion.



It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

[Eldat Pressen]

Quote

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 40 minutes since time out

12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
7 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick, Ay Estos, Osseric )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Nimander Golit, Thyrllan


Dejim Nebrahl was lynched. He was a Roleless Innocent and Macros.

Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Thyrllan has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Andorion.

So the three accused mechanic speculators are underlined. Two at the start of the train and one not on the train who was killed.

Let us see why people voted Dejim.

Jalan

Jalan, on 23 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 23 October 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

I think it's fairly obvious what PS meant, for I've got my eye on Jalan and Thyr already for role spec so early on day one.

Doubly so for Jalan who could easily be a sump signalling or a killer telling someone to be careful signalling.

Dejim reads the OP and doesn't have any questions about why the '?' is there. That to me looks like you have a scum PM therefore didn't even realise why there might be an issue.

Vote Dejim Nebrahl

Jalan is voting because Dejim didn't question the question mark in the OP. He at this stage does not mention the signalling that Dejim put in their post.

Kalse says this page two, so he is not in agreement with Jalan's reason for voting.

Kalse, on 23 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ok, super suspicious of the ones freaking out. Sowing confusion (dare I say fake news) and acting like they didn't already know?

Kalse does not have a reason for his vote with his vote BUT his thoughts are saying he believes both Jalan and Dejim are scum. Three one liners..

Kalse, on 23 October 2017 - 11:56 PM, said:

But not Tennes? Hmmmmm

Kalse, on 23 October 2017 - 11:59 PM, said:

There is no symp dumbass

In reference to Dejim voting Jalan

Kalse, on 24 October 2017 - 12:04 AM, said:

Distancing

[Eldat Pressen]

Third hop onto Dejim.

Tennes, on 24 October 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Okay, so the Ay thing is interested. Except it's implying that Ay is defending Jalan, without actually giving an opinion on whether Jalan is scum or not- only that by virtue of "defending" him Ay is scum.

On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling.

The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency.

vote Dejim Nebral

Obviously

Tennes is voting for Dejim for his signalling comments.

Merrid, on 24 October 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:

Vote Dejim Nebrahl

For lacking a sense of curiosity.

Merrid is voting for the same reason as Jalan.

Skintick, on 24 October 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

I'm still leaning Dejim from yesterday.

vote Dejim

Skin didn't like the signalling comments.

Ay Estos, on 25 October 2017 - 02:09 AM, said:

Vote DN
Whose Nejim, Aranatha?

No mention as to why, just throwing it in there ye we still have this earlier post,

Ay Estos, on 23 October 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:

Dejim is either intentionally acting as an idiot or is as dense as Jupiter's core.

What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?

No mention of finding Dejim scummy.

Aranatha's vote is not counted and Osseric joins the queue to get the lynch. Ozzy said this in the build up though and was around to discuss things

Osseric, on 24 October 2017 - 08:46 PM, said:

The quick pace on the Dejim train has me grabbing for the brakes. I'm not going to defend him, and will if need be, vote for him as time out nears. I'm a firm believer in "a lynch a day" But quick lynches more often strike townies. IMO the ? in PS's opening post did warrant speculation. With PS's clarification we need not continue on that line of thought. I will be online for the next few hours.

[Eldat Pressen]

I do wonder if the lynch of Dejim, the lack of other options and the kill of Thyr was protection of Jalan or Tennes but based off the votes and the train I still want to vote Ay Estos.



Vote Ay Estos






Kalse, why did you think that Dejim's vote on Jalan was distancing?

Does anyone find value in scum not wanting to lynch Dejim? ie why Aranatha did what they did? If Osseric was not around then the lynch would have failed.

What are people's thoughts on the reasoning for Dejim's votes? ie those who voted for the signalling comments compared to those who voted for his not questioning the question mark.

[Jalan]

Eldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

I do wonder if the lynch of Dejim, the lack of other options and the kill of Thyr was protection of Jalan or Tennes but based off the votes and the train I still want to vote Ay Estos.



Vote Ay Estos






Kalse, why did you think that Dejim's vote on Jalan was distancing?

Does anyone find value in scum not wanting to lynch Dejim? ie why Aranatha did what they did? If Osseric was not around then the lynch would have failed.

What are people's thoughts on the reasoning for Dejim's votes? ie those who voted for the signalling comments compared to those who voted for his not questioning the question mark.

I'm not sure why I or anyone else would need protecting from a Mac OMGUS vote.

I'm still not sure what your issue with Ay is.

I think my reasoning was pretty good for D1. It looked like a slip, very early in game. Of course it was wrong but hindsight is all well and good. Also can you imaging going into endgame with that hanging over him? He further compounded the mistake with the signalling which on an "obvious setup" shouldn't have been there.

Value to scum not wanting to lynch him is obviously because if he then went to endgame he'd be a pretty easy case to drive through.

If you're positing that Aranatha messed up spelling because they're scum then why aren't you voting for them?


I've had a shit days sleep and have started early on the coffee as a result, don't expect too much in the way of coherence from me till later in the Day.

[Skintick]

Sorry, I've been bogged down from work. Let me get caught up before I comment.

[Skintick]

Eldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

I do wonder if the lynch of Dejim, the lack of other options and the kill of Thyr was protection of Jalan or Tennes but based off the votes and the train I still want to vote Ay Estos.



Vote Ay Estos






Kalse, why did you think that Dejim's vote on Jalan was distancing?

Does anyone find value in scum not wanting to lynch Dejim? ie why Aranatha did what they did? If Osseric was not around then the lynch would have failed.

What are people's thoughts on the reasoning for Dejim's votes? ie those who voted for the signalling comments compared to those who voted for his not questioning the question mark.

Is your reasoning on Ay based just on his dday comment?

[Skintick]

Jalan, on 25 October 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:

Ay Estos, on 25 October 2017 - 02:09 AM, said:

Vote DN


Whose Nejim, Aranatha?

Hoping to stall a lynch on a technicality Ay?

I think it is more likely Aranatha was. No explanation about his screw up, and he stayed away till after the lynch.

[Tennes]

Busy today, so don't have too many thoughts. Didn't expect Dejim to be maccy, tbh

Only thing that jumps out of the brief glance on the train is Ay's concern over the possibly-failed-due-to-misspelling lynch. Not sure if it's genuine town concern or scum trying to make sure an inno lynch goes through, though.

Busy w/ stuff, will try to take a better look @ the train in the evening after footy. But no guarantees that'll happen.

[Merrid]

Vote Aranatha

As that's what I wanted to do by the end of day 1. I'm going to bed now but will go into more specifics tomorrow (not that it's an especially detailed case or anything). Briefly, Aranatha's two posts near the end of the day (in reply to Eldat and Tennes) really jumped out at me as scum-like. Seemingly sensible but utterly non-commital, urging caution with regard to Dejim but not suggesting alternatives (indeed, also being sceptical of the Ay Estos vote). Throwing the lightest shade at Eldat, which ends with a question ("Too clean?") thrown out to others rather than concluding with their own opinion on it.

Uh, actually, I think that pretty much says all I wanted to say on that, no further explication necessary. To summarise the summary, Aranatha is scum.

[Skintick]

Merrid, on 25 October 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

Vote Aranatha

As that's what I wanted to do by the end of day 1. I'm going to bed now but will go into more specifics tomorrow (not that it's an especially detailed case or anything). Briefly, Aranatha's two posts near the end of the day (in reply to Eldat and Tennes) really jumped out at me as scum-like. Seemingly sensible but utterly non-commital, urging caution with regard to Dejim but not suggesting alternatives (indeed, also being sceptical of the Ay Estos vote). Throwing the lightest shade at Eldat, which ends with a question ("Too clean?") thrown out to others rather than concluding with their own opinion on it.

Uh, actually, I think that pretty much says all I wanted to say on that, no further explication necessary. To summarise the summary, Aranatha is scum.

Ok, I just reread Aranatha's posts. Why did you want to vote Aranatha BEFORE his vote "slip"? I didn't see anything else that stood out for me.

[Aranatha]

It was past midnight when I posted the vote and I had already gone to bed before remembering mafia
Atleast the mistake was something more interesting than the common forgetting to remove before a vote *shrug*

[Skintick]

At this point, neither Eldat's or Merrid's cases are making any sense to me, which in turn is making them both look scummy.

[Kalse]

Busy, sorry guys. Give me till morning tomorrow (10 hrs)