Mafia 145.9 - Scumhunt Game Thread
#82
Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:18 PM
Eldat Pressen, on 24 October 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:
I saw the game started last night, and people talking about the game instead of dragonsex, you boring fuckers 
Jalan/Thyr/Tennes comment on PS's wording and start on role speculation.
Dejim calls them out, but also posits that there may be some sort of signalling going on, which I do not see why that would be the case.
Path-Shaper clears up the mechanic speculation.
Kalse in turn is suspicious of those talking mechanics.
To be fair, I did not have questions either. I glanced at it and thought three killers, healer and finder, okay. *nodded head
Dejim makes his point again on role speculation, then returns the vote for Jalan. The downside to this vote is having the signalling part of it, I don't see why there'd be signalling. I'd see the vote for role speculation.
Skintick also agrees about signalling being pointless here.
Now here is the reason I am going to vote.
Jalan and Dejim are indeed butting heads so this looks to me like a chainsaw defense.
He doesn't only attack Dejim but he also wants to start talk on mechanics speculation again (how many kills in a game?), I am going off one per night unless we see something different, to start speculation on that when we have no evidence to the contrary is scummy in itself.
Vote Ay Estos

Jalan/Thyr/Tennes comment on PS's wording and start on role speculation.
Dejim calls them out, but also posits that there may be some sort of signalling going on, which I do not see why that would be the case.
Path-Shaper clears up the mechanic speculation.
Kalse in turn is suspicious of those talking mechanics.
Jalan, on 23 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:
Dejim reads the OP and doesn't have any questions about why the '?' is there. That to me looks like you have a scum PM therefore didn't even realise why there might be an issue.
Vote Dejim Nebrahl
Vote Dejim Nebrahl
To be fair, I did not have questions either. I glanced at it and thought three killers, healer and finder, okay. *nodded head
Dejim makes his point again on role speculation, then returns the vote for Jalan. The downside to this vote is having the signalling part of it, I don't see why there'd be signalling. I'd see the vote for role speculation.
Skintick also agrees about signalling being pointless here.
Now here is the reason I am going to vote.
Ay Estos, on 23 October 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
Dejim is either intentionally acting as an idiot or is as dense as Jupiter's core.
What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?
What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?
Jalan and Dejim are indeed butting heads so this looks to me like a chainsaw defense.
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Chainsaw Defense The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
He doesn't only attack Dejim but he also wants to start talk on mechanics speculation again (how many kills in a game?), I am going off one per night unless we see something different, to start speculation on that when we have no evidence to the contrary is scummy in itself.
Vote Ay Estos
That's an interesting amount of effort on a D1 case
Written as clearly as possible so nobody can misunderstand or misrepresent what you're saying
A reasoning that is none of the D1 cliches provides interesting alternative to the obvious choice of voting the one outstanding guy who recklessly posted some bs
Too clean?
Anyway Ay's post seems completely sensible to me in the context, plus it doesn't appear like Jalan needed to be defended, unless you're thinking fake-symping
And the post doesn't prompt any further spec about kills as far as I can see(you wanted comments)
#83
Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:24 PM
Tennes, on 24 October 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:
Okay, so the Ay thing is interested. Except it's implying that Ay is defending Jalan, without actually giving an opinion on whether Jalan is scum or not- only that by virtue of "defending" him Ay is scum.
On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling.
The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency.
vote Dejim Nebral
Obviously
On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling.
The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency.
vote Dejim Nebral
Obviously
It appears Tennes has already said the most important things from my last posts

This Dejim train has picked up speed really easily, but I can see why and the lack of resistance wouldn't be surprising with 3 paired killers as opposed to usual killer+symp combo so I too prefer Dejim
Will hold off voting for now
#84
Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:28 PM
Yeah, I don't really have much to say in response to DN. He's spouting bullshit after making a little too much noise in the first few hours. I honestly don't think he's scum (just stupid), but IMO there is no better lynch target so far.
I'd rather not put him on L-1 just now though, so I'll wait a little.
I'd rather not put him on L-1 just now though, so I'll wait a little.
#85
Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:54 PM
It is Day 1. 7 hours and 34 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan
7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
5 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick )
Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thyrllan
12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan
7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
5 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick )
Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thyrllan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#86
Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:23 PM
You'd think with three scum a lynch of scum would be alot more difficult which is another reason I favour my vote. Most people have shown inclination to vote Dejim.
#87
Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:46 PM
The quick pace on the Dejim train has me grabbing for the brakes. I'm not going to defend him, and will if need be, vote for him as time out nears. I'm a firm believer in "a lynch a day" But quick lynches more often strike townies. IMO the ? in PS's opening post did warrant speculation. With PS's clarification we need not continue on that line of thought. I will be online for the next few hours.
#88
Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:35 PM
It is Day 1. 5 hours and 53 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan
7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
5 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick )
Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thyrllan
12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan
7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
5 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick )
Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thyrllan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#89
Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:01 PM
Well we're seeing some hesitation now aren't we?
By the by, if I thought it could be converted into a lynch today, I would switch my vote to Aranatha. Definite scum.
By the by, if I thought it could be converted into a lynch today, I would switch my vote to Aranatha. Definite scum.
#90
Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:36 PM
Merrid, on 24 October 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:
Well we're seeing some hesitation now aren't we?
By the by, if I thought it could be converted into a lynch today, I would switch my vote to Aranatha. Definite scum.
By the by, if I thought it could be converted into a lynch today, I would switch my vote to Aranatha. Definite scum.
Good evening to you sir, have you heard about our lord and saviour, Scabandari Bloodeye?
I'm out for the day so
Vote Nejim
#91
Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:07 AM
I'm guessing about 30 minutes to night. If anyone has anything to say, say it now.
#93
Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:10 AM
#94
Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:14 AM
Eldat Pressen, on 24 October 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:
You'd think with three scum a lynch of scum would be alot more difficult which is another reason I favour my vote. Most people have shown inclination to vote Dejim.
That depends. Throwing him under the bus as distancing. The train will certainly be interesting to look at, as well as those who haven't voted. Tennes and Merrid made the train the likely lynch, I'll look them up when I get on a computer.
#95
Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:15 AM
#96
Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:20 AM
Vote Dejim Nebrahl
In-case there is any confusion.
In-case there is any confusion.
#98
Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:51 AM
#99
Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM
Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.
#100
Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:24 AM
Eldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:
Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.
Those are really really enjoyable books. I really liked how Mark Lawrence was able to write a really entertaining coward as his main character here.
Sorry I missed timeout, some work adjustments put me on some highly unusual shifts with very little warning.