[Eldat Pressen]

Kalse, on 24 October 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

Chainsaw chainsaw defense?

Don't be a dick Kalse

[Eldat Pressen]

I'd want more comments on my vote than that...

You already stated that Jalan and co were "freaking you out", then go and vote for Dejim, that's a bit contradictory already.

[Jalan]

Back, allowing for a sleep deprived brain and going out for dinner later with our antenatal group whilst the instructor is on holiday.

You know what really bugs me about Ay?

This quote is from last game:

Gust Hubb, on 12 October 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So as I listed, based on day 1, you are my next suspect. And now you have this line. It is almost as if you are heading off accusations before they are even leveled. That reeeeeeeks of scum. Just reeeeeks. The only thing that grabs my attention faster is someone doing a D-day numbers analysis on day 1 (yes it happened. And yes, it was scum).

Top of page we have

Ay Estos, on 23 October 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:

Dejim is either intentionally acting as an idiot or is as dense as Jupiter's core.

What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?

Ay wants to talk about D-day numbers on D1.

I prefer Dejim. Ay as a distant second.

[Jalan]

I'll be around at EoD - initially thought I'd be at the Italian then realised I hadn't changed the alt timezone.

[Tennes]

Catching up

[Skintick]

Back and reading up

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 42 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
2 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

[Tennes]

Okay, so the Ay thing is interested. Except it's implying that Ay is defending Jalan, without actually giving an opinion on whether Jalan is scum or not- only that by virtue of "defending" him Ay is scum.

On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling.

The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency.

vote Dejim Nebral

Obviously

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 36 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
3 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Thyrllan

[Skintick]

Eldat Pressen, on 24 October 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

I saw the game started last night, and people talking about the game instead of dragonsex, you boring fuckers

Jalan/Thyr/Tennes comment on PS's wording and start on role speculation.

Dejim calls them out, but also posits that there may be some sort of signalling going on, which I do not see why that would be the case.

Path-Shaper clears up the mechanic speculation.

Kalse in turn is suspicious of those talking mechanics.

Jalan, on 23 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Dejim reads the OP and doesn't have any questions about why the '?' is there. That to me looks like you have a scum PM therefore didn't even realise why there might be an issue.
Vote Dejim Nebrahl

To be fair, I did not have questions either. I glanced at it and thought three killers, healer and finder, okay. *nodded head

Dejim makes his point again on role speculation, then returns the vote for Jalan. The downside to this vote is having the signalling part of it, I don't see why there'd be signalling. I'd see the vote for role speculation.

Skintick also agrees about signalling being pointless here.

Now here is the reason I am going to vote.

Ay Estos, on 23 October 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:

Dejim is either intentionally acting as an idiot or is as dense as Jupiter's core.

What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?

Jalan and Dejim are indeed butting heads so this looks to me like a chainsaw defense.

Quote

Chainsaw Defense The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".

He doesn't only attack Dejim but he also wants to start talk on mechanics speculation again (how many kills in a game?), I am going off one per night unless we see something different, to start speculation on that when we have no evidence to the contrary is scummy in itself.




Vote Ay Estos

Interesting... I too thought his dday speculation on day 1 was odd.

[Merrid]

Kalse, on 24 October 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

Chainsaw chainsaw defense?

Exactly my first thought too. Isn't this a defense of Dejim by attacking the player attacking them, and therefore also a possible scum play?


Edit: 'This' post by Eldat Pressen going for Ay Estos I mean.

This post has been edited by Merrid: 24 October 2017 - 03:52 PM

[Thyrllan]

Much as I like Jalan's point about At Estos' D Day spec on day 1, I prefer Dejim myself.

[Merrid]

Vote Dejim Nebrahl

For lacking a sense of curiosity.

[Aranatha]

Anyone else having problems loading the site?

[Skintick]

Aranatha, on 24 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Anyone else having problems loading the site?

Not at the moment.

[Skintick]

I'm still leaning Dejim from yesterday.

vote Dejim

[Aranatha]

Aranatha, on 24 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Anyone else having problems loading the site?

Okay it seems it's become sufferable

Be here soon

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 30 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Dejim Nebrahl, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Jalan ( Dejim Nebrahl )
5 Votes for Dejim Nebrahl ( Jalan, Kalse, Tennes, Merrid, Skintick )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thyrllan

[Aranatha]

Dejim Nebrahl, on 23 October 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

Jalan, on 23 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 23 October 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

I think it's fairly obvious what PS meant, for I've got my eye on Jalan and Thyr already for role spec so early on day one.

Doubly so for Jalan who could easily be a sump signalling or a killer telling someone to be careful signalling.

Dejim reads the OP and doesn't have any questions about why the '?' is there. That to me looks like you have a scum PM therefore didn't even realise why there might be an issue.

Vote Dejim Nebrahl

you forgot to say OMGUS before that.

here, let me show you how its done:
OMGUS
vote Jalan

this is partly because you suck and partly because I felt like you were signalling straight off the batt, and your role spec.
It was obvious (to me, sorry if you're a little slower) that there are 3 killers working as a team from that op and the fact that this is meat and potatoes with a little veg.
its an open set up, laid out clearly, you were throwing mud into the water. So please scum, continue building your gibbet for yourself

Dejim first saying PS's writing seems "fairly obvious" then proceeding to vote someone (partly) for signalling is admittedly strange.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 23 October 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 23 October 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 23 October 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

I think it's fairly obvious what PS meant, for I've got my eye on Jalan and Thyr already for role spec so early on day one.

Doubly so for Jalan who could easily be a sump signalling or a killer telling someone to be careful signalling.

Scum role speculation

Role spec is role spec, and has been proven time and time again to help scum, not town.
so fuck off

I get that even scum role spec can be seen as scummy but it doesn't have much potential to hurt town, so yeah suspecting someone because of it is fine with me but I don't think you're entitled to tell anyone not to do it without atleast explaining why you think it hurts town

[Aranatha]

Kalse, on 24 October 2017 - 12:06 AM, said:

vote dn

I like your posts

And I don't like that. IGMEOY