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Mafia 142 - Rise of the Dark Sorcerer

#421 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:23 PM

I forgot about Thyrllan. Thyrllan is higher on my possible recruiter list than Osseric.

#422 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:41 PM

remove vote


vote rashan


Seeing the CF makes sense.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:45 PM

remove vote
vote Rashan


Still, IGMEOY Jalan.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:54 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 April 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

remove vote
vote Rashan


Still, IGMEOY Jalan.

I had my eye on everyone for hours and hours and hours (9 to be precise) without anyone to engage with significantly. Do you know what it's like to be the only one in church awake while everything is all smokey and spooky and Osseric is blaming his silent farts on dead folk? I almost wet myself.

#425 User is offline   Nimander Golit 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:16 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:34 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 28 April 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

I this a bit clearer now, we lynch Rashan and we are back to no recruits and one recruiter, tomorrow we are back to similar this day?


Ie Ampelas comes back to life and now he is a recruit. We lynch Amp again, then Rashan comes back.

That's how I see it going. I'd prefer us going for the head honcho.


We still have no idea what the Channeler can do, so yeah, I think it makes sense to stop the Sorcerer from building a fucking army and hopefully our Channeler can help us sort that.


This makes sense. We reduce the number of the baddies by 1, we let our safe and protected channeller do his thing and who knows what could happen next day? The CF could be a big help, the channeler might have some good news and we would be less one piece of scum.

Vote Rashan

#426 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:23 PM

If that's settled

remove vote

vote Rashan


#427 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:38 PM

Voting Rashan makes no sense at all. You vote the recruiter, not the recruit. Geez.

#428 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:40 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 28 April 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

This makes sense. We reduce the number of the baddies by 1, we let our safe and protected channeller do his thing and who knows what could happen next day? The CF could be a big help, the channeler might have some good news and we would be less one piece of scum.

Vote Rashan


The CF will be of minimal help when it says something like "was a walking dead." Most likely occurrence is that they were recruited, ergo are a RI but scummy.

You're too obvious to be the recruiter.

Vote Thyrllan

#429 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:46 PM

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?


Yes from a quick glance.

#431 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:47 PM

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Voting Rashan makes no sense at all. You vote the recruiter, not the recruit. Geez.


Except we don't know if the sorcerer can raise new recruits every night

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?


Yes

#432 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:48 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 27 April 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 27 April 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

vote nimander


BDSM hell, can you share your reasoning?



View PostGalain, on 27 April 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

Bdsm?


Bondage/Sadomasochism (but you didn't hear that from me).


Because you're missing an important aspect

Bondage and Discipline, Sadism and Masochism (or your own choice of Discipline, Dominance and Submission, Sadism)

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:49 PM

Now you know I'm all about going along with the crowd, but - and please don't hit me - kinda have to agree with Kilava on this. We know that Rashan is not the sorcerer, and yet this is what we're doing? Plus, it just seems bad manners to kill someone a second time. I'll help you set the rope if I must, but I would like my protest registered.

#434 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:49 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Voting Rashan makes no sense at all. You vote the recruiter, not the recruit. Geez.


Except we don't know if the sorcerer can raise new recruits every night

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?


Yes


Play to WCS FFS.

WCS recruiter recruits every night.

#435 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:57 PM

More to the point, if we have 12 hours in the day, and a narrowed suspect pool, should we not try to, y'know, make cases and shit on the few suspects to try to figure out who is the recruiter? Like, play mafia?

Or are we all just auto-magically secretly hoping that "channeler" is fancy name for "finder" who will hand us the game on a silver platter?

#436 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:07 PM

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Voting Rashan makes no sense at all. You vote the recruiter, not the recruit. Geez.


Except we don't know if the sorcerer can raise new recruits every night

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?


Yes


Play to WCS FFS.

WCS recruiter recruits every night.


Well then we should be at the same point the next day

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

More to the point, if we have 12 hours in the day, and a narrowed suspect pool, should we not try to, y'know, make cases and shit on the few suspects to try to figure out who is the recruiter? Like, play mafia?


Weekend freeze will start at the start of D4 and the 12 hours won't just disappear

The sooner we lynch Rashan the sooner we might have some new info

Also the cases and stuff have more weight to them if there's serious threat of being lynched because of them behind them

#437 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:25 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 April 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Voting Rashan makes no sense at all. You vote the recruiter, not the recruit. Geez.


Except we don't know if the sorcerer can raise new recruits every night

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

so that's Rash @ L-1 now?


Yes


Play to WCS FFS.

WCS recruiter recruits every night.


Well then we should be at the same point the next day

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

More to the point, if we have 12 hours in the day, and a narrowed suspect pool, should we not try to, y'know, make cases and shit on the few suspects to try to figure out who is the recruiter? Like, play mafia?


Weekend freeze will start at the start of D4 and the 12 hours won't just disappear

The sooner we lynch Rashan the sooner we might have some new info



I don't get your math. At all. If we lynch, and cut the day short, we will, in fact lose the 12 hours we can now use to try to figure out who the recruiter is before hammering.

The only new info the lynch will provide us is disproving the highly improbable suspicion of Denul playing us all.

Look, if you want to rely on NAs to win the game for you, it's ok to admit that. I don't think anyone bar me will judge you.

But trying to sugar-coat it as the best possible course of action is bullshit. We know Rash is a recruit. Unless sorcerer can recruit + resurrect simultaneously, there should now be 2 cult (unless they started with more than 1). So if we lynch town, and sorcerer recruits, that's 3:9 (or 3:10, if he brings back Amp)

As long as the number is manageable, is it not better to have more known recruits around to give things away by defending the master?

Like, I really don't get Denul's reasoning. He brought back a role, great, superb play. Now he's... what? expecting this role to catch the Sorcerer for him?

#438 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:32 PM

I'm in no way relying on my NAs and trying to sugarcoat it. I see lynching Rashan as the safe way to do this. If the ressurection was one time deal, then we get Rashan out of way early and I don't think we lose anything by that. If it wasn't one time deal then tommorow we will be at the same position except that we will know it's probably every night's ability for Sorcerer instead of losing a town member and having another scum raised from that if we decided to try to get the sorcerer today and lynched wrongly.

#439 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:36 PM

Does it matter if it a one-time thing?

Rash is essentially a symp. It's (supposedly) 2 v 8, with like 5 PIs and we're lynching the symp, instead of even trying to look for a master.

Is there some glaring flaw in my logic?

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM

Known recruits will know they're known and they will be very careful not to give away who their master is.

Also I have a feeling there's more to this whole thing since raising your recruits from dead is basically a much weaker kind of regular recruiting because this way everyone knows who the recruits are, another reason for taking the safer route imo

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