[Denul]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

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Also considering how everyone has been mainly just fucking around this day I judged that lynching Rashan has basically been already decided.

That's crazy talk. The only way to win the game is to lynch the Sorcerer Thief, and that is clearly NOT Rashan the Minion.

Rashan is a known quantity - no point in keeping him around if we know he's the Sorcerer's minion. Plus his CF will give us information about what to expect from a scum CF.

Why are you so sweet on trying to protect him? Just wanna keep your minion around eh?

[Galain]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Anyway, speculating on the Sorcerer's abilities is all WIFOM and a waste of time. Since none of you can fucking pick up on hints and run with it...

I am the Father. I resurrected Silchas. My resurrection ability is a one-time thing, this is the main reason I doubt the sorcerer's is more than once.

Given I know that Silchas is Innocent because that's what he flipped before I resurrected him, I know for certain based on the scene that Rashan was resurrected by the Sorcerer. It stands to reason that if the Sorcerer resurrected someone, it's not so that they can be a happy townie again. That would be stupid.

So, Silchas is back, the Channeler is alive, folks! I'll be leaving my heal on him, and I have a BP, so he'll get a minimum of 2 nights to do whatever it is he does, assuming I get targeted tonight and again tomorrow night for the kill. If he wastes his time trying to kill Silchas, even better.

So, my vote remains on Rashan, and I still recommend you guys do the same. That's a sure hit on the scum team. Anyone who keeps pushing at the idea is likely fucking scum.

Right, I understand what you are saying. I do not understand the logic of voting Rashan, please help me with that.

We lynch Rashan, the recruiter recruits.

We lynch the next recruit, the recruiter recruits, we will end up in a situation were we lose.

D day would be day 4? if we try and lynch the recruiter or just pushed back if we lynch his minions. I am sure we have narroed it down to not 3 people, possibly more if you are to be believed.

Merrid not, rashan not, silchas not, denul not, the pool gets smaller. We get 2 or 3 attempts to get it right?

[Silchas Ruin]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

...
Also considering how everyone has been mainly just fucking around this day I judged that lynching Rashan has basically been already decided.

That's crazy talk. The only way to win the game is to lynch the Sorcerer Thief, and that is clearly NOT Rashan the Minion.

Another thing is that there's a possibility of Rashan obtained an ability, especially considering he should be the first follower of the Sorceror, or if not that then the first dead-not-dead one

[Jalan]

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

[Merrid]

It was pretty goddamn obvious Denul was the rwesurrector from how he jumped on Kilava for talking about resurrections on Day 1. It's why I didn't switch to lynch him, BTW.

Now that we lost that piece of suspense, I'm still diossapointed we can't poke at the remaining pool of suspect sorcerers and see who Rash will try to defend. But then again, I guess I'm the last person to be lecturing about premature reveals...

Predictably, I'm busy as fuck today (on top of barely keeping my eyes open, so I'm amenable to a Rashan lynch, and hopefully I can be more productive on the weekend (and then Monday's gonna be another shit show of a day).

[Galain]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

WTF is wrong with you people? You realize that this is not a fucking M&P right? Like, there are likely fucking roles no one knows about? RIGHT?! How the fuck would YOU know that the lynch is the only way for us to win in this game?

Yes. Lynch of the Sorceror.

Either way I believe that the best way to test that is just to lynch Rashan and see what happens. In the meantime try not to reveal your password to us.

I this a bit clearer now, we lynch Rashan and we are back to no recruits and one recruiter, tomorrow we are back to similar this day?


Ie Ampelas comes back to life and now he is a recruit. We lynch Amp again, then Rashan comes back.

That's how I see it going. I'd prefer us going for the head honcho.

[Denul]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

Right, so your suggestion is to just let the killer keep growing his army eh? Fine.

Remove vote
vote Jalan

You're trying too hard to keep someone I know for certain is scum in the game.

[Denul]

Galain, on 28 April 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

I this a bit clearer now, we lynch Rashan and we are back to no recruits and one recruiter, tomorrow we are back to similar this day?


Ie Ampelas comes back to life and now he is a recruit. We lynch Amp again, then Rashan comes back.

That's how I see it going. I'd prefer us going for the head honcho.

We still have no idea what the Channeler can do, so yeah, I think it makes sense to stop the Sorcerer from building a fucking army and hopefully our Channeler can help us sort that.

[Galain]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

...
Also considering how everyone has been mainly just fucking around this day I judged that lynching Rashan has basically been already decided.

That's crazy talk. The only way to win the game is to lynch the Sorcerer Thief, and that is clearly NOT Rashan the Minion.

Rashan is a known quantity - no point in keeping him around if we know he's the Sorcerer's minion. Plus his CF will give us information about what to expect from a scum CF.

Why are you so sweet on trying to protect him? Just wanna keep your minion around eh?

I like this, I am happy to vote Rashan to see this, but tomorrow if Ampelas does come back to the fold I want to try and go for head honcho.

[Galain]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:34 PM, said:

Galain, on 28 April 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

I this a bit clearer now, we lynch Rashan and we are back to no recruits and one recruiter, tomorrow we are back to similar this day?


Ie Ampelas comes back to life and now he is a recruit. We lynch Amp again, then Rashan comes back.

That's how I see it going. I'd prefer us going for the head honcho.

We still have no idea what the Channeler can do, so yeah, I think it makes sense to stop the Sorcerer from building a fucking army and hopefully our Channeler can help us sort that.

We do not know if the Sorcerer can recruit non dead people, I assume not the way the game has started but it is a possibility that Silchas could be his next recruit.

See how Nimander has not responded to anything and Rashan is keeping quiet. Nimander may be a good place to start.

[Jalan]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

Right, so your suggestion is to just let the killer keep growing his army eh? Fine.

Remove vote
vote Jalan

You're trying too hard to keep someone I know for certain is scum in the game.

Hey, clever you, lynch me and guess what we likely have tomorrow - 2 scum recruits AND the Sorcerer. That's exactly what the Sorcerer is counting on - that's how he wins.

[Galain]

Next week I am on holiday and away from desk, so mobile only, and in the day will be spent in mountainous scenery with little signal. I do not know how bad it will be of a night but I will try to be around, I may even just vote mr popular by then. As my case making will be pretty restricted.

[Galain]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

Right, so your suggestion is to just let the killer keep growing his army eh? Fine.

Remove vote
vote Jalan

You're trying too hard to keep someone I know for certain is scum in the game.

Hey, clever you, lynch me and guess what we likely have tomorrow - 2 scum recruits AND the Sorcerer. That's exactly what the Sorcerer is counting on - that's how he wins.

What is to say you are not the sorcerer? My number 2 behind Nimander, then Osseric behind you.

[Jalan]

Denul, is this your first time encountering a recruitment role?

[Jalan]

Galain, on 28 April 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

What is to say you are not the sorcerer? My number 2 behind Nimander, then Osseric behind you.

I think these three are viable options, except I am not the Sorcerer. I am not afraid of def. I laugh at def. "Ha. ha, def!"

[Denul]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

Right, so your suggestion is to just let the killer keep growing his army eh? Fine.

Remove vote
vote Jalan

You're trying too hard to keep someone I know for certain is scum in the game.

Hey, clever you, lynch me and guess what we likely have tomorrow - 2 scum recruits AND the Sorcerer. That's exactly what the Sorcerer is counting on - that's how he wins.

LOL - now you're contradicting yourself.

Should we lynch Rashan or not?

[Jalan]

And let's make clear (or less clear if you would have it, though I think there's no advantage in going there yet at this point), I too think Rashan came back as evil - that is far more likely than not. However, just because the Father resurrected Silchas in a good way as a result of prayer, historically any resurrector role, including a good one, isn't given a guarantee of successful resurrection to the same or a good alignment, unless of course you're saying your role specifies that whoever you resurrect is of your alignment or faction or whatever. Though having said that, if the Father is indeed given only one, and I think he's being truthful here, Silchas is far more likely aligned with the Father than not.

[Jalan]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I just think it's fruitless to lynch Rashan at this point, because I think PS also indicates the Sorcerer can indeed resurrect again and again - likely the role has a choice of either killing OR resurrecting - that's how the role works most places.

Right, so your suggestion is to just let the killer keep growing his army eh? Fine.

Remove vote
vote Jalan

You're trying too hard to keep someone I know for certain is scum in the game.

Hey, clever you, lynch me and guess what we likely have tomorrow - 2 scum recruits AND the Sorcerer. That's exactly what the Sorcerer is counting on - that's how he wins.

LOL - now you're contradicting yourself.

Should we lynch Rashan or not?

It isn't contradiction - I'm not opposed to ridding us of a known evil - lynching Rashan is a good thing. However, we don't gain any ground as you seem to think we will without lynching the Sorcerer - we only loose ground until the Sorcerer is dead. And there's no guarantee the Sorcerer won't simply gain powers as he studies more. We only win this when the Sorcerer Thief is dead.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now day 3. There are 12 hours and 56 minutes left until timeout.

10 players alive: Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Rashan, Silchas Ruin, Thryllan
1 player in purgatory: Ampelas

1 votes Rashan (Thryllan)
1 vote Thyrllan (Silchas Ruin)
1 vote Nimander Golit (Galain)
1 vote Jalan (Denul)


Players not voted: Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Rashan,

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

[Path-Shaper]

Freeze will start at the beginning of day 4.