[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 21 November 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 21 November 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Briar King, on 21 November 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

IB.

Not even sure how much I will play it if I wind up getting the Hunter helm early. Man if they didn’t have these stupid topknots I’d be grinding away on all 3.

Have they fixed it, or is it still Crucible 2.0?

Also, My load out is the best right now. I toggle between Origin Story, Sweet Business, and Scathelocke for my main, and Uriel's Gift and Hard Light in my second slot, with a sword still bringing up my power slot.

My fave thing to do is get my sword loaded up in a match, stand at a corner, and wait for one of the other side to come within striking distance and surprise the shit out of them. I do it like 2-3 times a match, and it's never not satisfying.

Will let ya know when I get on in a bit. Watching Jerry Springer before I kill some Guardians.

Wait, is Jerry Springer still on TV?

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 21 November 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Showing reruns from 2015 but I haven’t heard production is shut down so I’m sure they still filming.

That's nutty. I used to watch that in the 90's as a teenager!

[Khellendros]

The Antiope is a random drop from the Gunsmith. Pray to RNGeesus.

[Silencer]

So I've actually been able to sit down and play now for an extended period of time (my internet finally got fixed earlier in the week). I've done all the different types of activity except the Raid so far.

It's OK. It's definitely a "two steps sideways" kind of deal for a lot of things. It feels like they moved forward on some areas, back on others, and tried to reinvent the wheel elsewhere. It just all feels very samey and not really in a good way. The loot treadmill and dearth of endgame content is still a very real thing, and they appear not to have done anything that actively improved the previous game. Menus are more complicated and less useful, and the story, while better than year 1 Destiny fare, is still mostly over with in no time flat and has very little dramatic value. It says a lot that the two best characters in the game are the main villains (excluding, of course, Cayde) and even then they are barely above average. I mean, Ghaul had depth beyond just being an evil supervillain type but it didn't really go anywhere.

Oh, wait, there is *one* thing they actively improved. Engrams giving you higher level gear than what you currently have. That's a nice change. XD

Otherwise it's definitely Destiny 1.5 and because there isn't any actual downtime between the previous game and this one like there is with a regular release, that's an even worse outcome than normal.


I'm still enjoying the game, but I can feel the burn-out settling in far quicker this time. I mean it's taken me less than a week to get basically to the loot grind phase (Light 260 at the moment, steadily rising) and I know all I've got to look forward to is getting to a point where the gains from engrams start to dwindle and the prospect of actually hitting the level cap starts to drain away. It's taken less than a week to hit that content dead zone. They better have a lot of evolution planned over the next year with regular releases that actually add meaningful content this time around.

[Malankazooie]

Silencer, on 25 November 2017 - 06:49 AM, said:

So I've actually been able to sit down and play now for an extended period of time (my internet finally got fixed earlier in the week). I've done all the different types of activity except the Raid so far.

It's OK. It's definitely a "two steps sideways" kind of deal for a lot of things. It feels like they moved forward on some areas, back on others, and tried to reinvent the wheel elsewhere. It just all feels very samey and not really in a good way. The loot treadmill and dearth of endgame content is still a very real thing, and they appear not to have done anything that actively improved the previous game. Menus are more complicated and less useful, and the story, while better than year 1 Destiny fare, is still mostly over with in no time flat and has very little dramatic value. It says a lot that the two best characters in the game are the main villains (excluding, of course, Cayde) and even then they are barely above average. I mean, Ghaul had depth beyond just being an evil supervillain type but it didn't really go anywhere.

Oh, wait, there is *one* thing they actively improved. Engrams giving you higher level gear than what you currently have. That's a nice change. XD

Otherwise it's definitely Destiny 1.5 and because there isn't any actual downtime between the previous game and this one like there is with a regular release, that's an even worse outcome than normal.


I'm still enjoying the game, but I can feel the burn-out settling in far quicker this time. I mean it's taken me less than a week to get basically to the loot grind phase (Light 260 at the moment, steadily rising) and I know all I've got to look forward to is getting to a point where the gains from engrams start to dwindle and the prospect of actually hitting the level cap starts to drain away. It's taken less than a week to hit that content dead zone. They better have a lot of evolution planned over the next year with regular releases that actually add meaningful content this time around.

This. 100%. And they haven't introduced anything (weekly this or that / IB / Faction Rally) that makes me want to play anymore. I'll wait and see how the upcoming expansion (Curse of Osiris?) is received before I play it again. Well, I might get on if they are doing another Christmas event (The Dawning?) like they did for Destiny 1. I'm a sucker for presents. I was really disappointed they didn't do anything for Halloween this year.

[Khellendros]

Briar King, on 26 November 2017 - 12:09 AM, said:

Gah still no helmet! Been busting ass and actually on winning teams for tokens today to... I’m not gonna get it.

You'll still be able to get the same helmet in future iron banners. They're not changing the gear (though perhaps adding new weapons), but rather future IBs will reward you with ornaments - those skins that you can sometimes get for exotic weapons from bright engrams - which will change the look of that armour.

[QuickTidal]

I think I have the full set of IB amor and weapons now.

Some cool stuff in it.

Played IB almost all day yesterday as my wife and daughter were out.

I'd say I won 80% of the time, so it was a good day.

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 27 November 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 27 November 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

I think I have the full set of IB amor and weapons now.

Some cool stuff in it.

Played IB almost all day yesterday as my wife and daughter were out.

I'd say I won 80% of the time, so it was a good day.

Be fucked.

This helm chase is really annoying now. 2 days left and I know I won’t get it rolled.

Ha, sorry dude. I was grinding away yesterday tho, so it took so time. Hopefully you'll get it all.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 28 November 2017 - 03:04 AM

[QuickTidal]

So Bungie has locked out previously available content until you buy the fucking DLC.

Shit I could play on Monday, I can't play today.

Fuck this. Fuck bungie. I'm going back to HZD.

[Malankazooie]

QuickTidal, on 07 December 2017 - 03:41 AM, said:

So Bungie has locked out previously available content until you buy the fucking DLC.

Shit I could play on Monday, I can't play today.

Fuck this. Fuck bungie. I'm going back to HZD.

Did you accept the 6GB update? I think you have to install that to keep playing so the game keeps the continuity between those who have the DLC and those who don't

I installed it and was able to get in and play. I didn't try any of the strikes, crucible or the raid though so I could be wrong. But I did complete some of the side quests that I hadn't finished that become available after finishing the story.

The 6 gb update is pretty shitty that they have to dump something that large on those who just want to keep playing the game without the update.

[EDIT] Played a quick match of Crucible (Control). Totally shit on a bunch of booger eaters. I'm sure I made them cry and throw their controllers. Then played a Nightfall Strike and got wrecked because I was by myself.

[EDIT2] You should play HZD anyway. It's a far superior experience then Destiny 2. Destiny 2 should only be plugged in when you are so bored and there is nothing else you can think of to pass the time. It's that mind numbingly dumb and tedious and outright stupid,

This post has been edited by Malankazooie: 07 December 2017 - 06:13 AM

[Khellendros]

QuickTidal, on 07 December 2017 - 03:41 AM, said:

So Bungie has locked out previously available content until you buy the fucking DLC. Shit I could play on Monday, I can't play today.Fuck this. Fuck bungie. I'm going back to HZD.

Briar King, on 07 December 2017 - 03:45 AM, said:

Like what?

The prestige content (prestige raid, more than likely Trials of the Nine when that comes round). It is not as egregious as people are making out on forums (I've seen people claiming they can only do patrols now, which is just plain wrong). However, it is only a matter of time before Bungie locks most things previously available in vanilla Destiny behind DLC paywalls. This is what happened in Destiny 1 when The Taken King launched and is the reason I stopped playing the first Destiny. The vanilla game no longer allowed you to play fundamental elements which had been available from the start unless you purchased the expansion. That is taking away something you purchased (note: not closing down services - the services still exist, but you are no longer allowed to access them).

Yes, I understand that this is essentially how MMOs work, but Bungie has - and continues to ardently maintain - that Destiny is not an MMO. Yet, it is clearly subject to MMO practices, and thus another indication of the lack of clear communication and respect paid to the community by the business side of Bungie.

I have not yet decided whether to purchase the DLC, but it is already clear that there's no reason to continue playing without doing so. With certain activities being raised in level above that which is accessible to vanilla players, there is even less game to play (and this will only increase every time new content is released - because, as mentioned, the arrival of new content also signals the locking out of some elements of old content each time in Destiny).

In addition, yesterday I had the "pleasure" of being on the wrong side of a Crucible team of Prismatic Lens users. Our team lost with three minutes of the round still to play. If you haven't experienced that yet, then look forward to it (Bungie have said it's a bug that makes the gun so powerful).

[QuickTidal]

Basically, if there are things I could participate in from release day till Monday passed...and on Tuesday I could no longer play those things. That's fucking BULLSHIT. Adding in DLC should not disallow me from playing things I was able to play before.

It also must exceptionally sting for PC users who JUST got access to the game like last month...only to be locked out of things they've barely had a chance to play by a new DLC dropping.

Anyways, this is a shitty business practice, and I'm not willing to reward them by buying it.

[Khellendros]

I find it amusing how that's the bit of new content which can be accessed without purchasing the DLC - anything Eververse sells is available to all to obtain, either by random chance, or by that other method

[Malankazooie]

Damn. A YouTuber who's bread and butter is Destiny content and who posts a video a day on various tips and strategies and Destiny related topics, just totally ripped Bungie and the new Osiris DLC a new one. He was not a happy camper. I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on that garbage.

[Silencer]

Malankazooie, on 08 December 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Damn. A YouTuber who's bread and butter is Destiny content and who posts a video a day on various tips and strategies and Destiny related topics, just totally ripped Bungie and the new Osiris DLC a new one. He was not a happy camper. I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on that garbage.

Which one? I know Byf and Datto and a bunch of others have been quietly critical of the base game so far, but I haven't seen any of their stuff on the Osiris DLC (which has a fucking short campaign and locks people out of end-game content who don't buy the DLC, in true hostage style), but I figured it wouldn't be a super-positive response.

[Silencer]

Briar King, on 09 December 2017 - 02:34 AM, said:

I have only had time and the need to play for about 3 missions so far. The opening mission is the single biggest head banging shit in Destiny history so far. I actually shouted at my tv. I will tag with the simple gist of it.

Spoiler

Ikora’s agents find Osiris’s knocked out Ghost on Mercury. She gives us the task of FINDING HIS FOLLOWERS TO GET THEIR HELP! She wants us to keep the task hush hush from everyone else though. We get to Mercury and Vance greets us saying he was waiting on us mystic mumbo jumbo. Ikora gets on the coms and the two of them bicker. We then proceed across the opening zone to a locked barrier. Ghost says “aww fuck! If only Sagira wasn’t passed out in your back pocket she could open the door.” Vance hears this and says, “You cocksuckers have her? Bring her to me!” We then have to trek all the way back where we landed to go give it to him fighting Vex both ways!

Does this make a lick of sense? I’m not going to point out the obvious clusterfuck failure in storytelling here. It should jump out.

It really doesn't get any better. Also, if you're 3 missions in, you're literally halfway done.

[Khellendros]

Briar King, on 09 December 2017 - 03:03 AM, said:

What is this Eater of Worlds raid thing? Is this a new raid or a hard mode of 1st? If it’s new then wtf? I would have thought it would be another VoG theme.

It's mini-raid. You still need 6 people for it but it consists of a couple of platforming sections and then a big boss at the end. I watched a video of it being done and was really surprised at just how short it was.

Having said that, visually and musically it is absolutely stunning and does have several very cool moments.

As for theme, it makes sense to go back to Leviathan as that ship is basically the size of a planet so there is so much left of it to explore. Nonetheless, there is a Vex theme there which ties in well, and amusingly, to the fact that the Leviathan is in the process of eating Nessus.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 09 December 2017 - 08:56 AM

[Malankazooie]

Silencer, on 09 December 2017 - 02:31 AM, said:

Malankazooie, on 08 December 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Damn. A YouTuber who's bread and butter is Destiny content and who posts a video a day on various tips and strategies and Destiny related topics, just totally ripped Bungie and the new Osiris DLC a new one. He was not a happy camper. I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on that garbage.

Which one? I know Byf and Datto and a bunch of others have been quietly critical of the base game so far, but I haven't seen any of their stuff on the Osiris DLC (which has a fucking short campaign and locks people out of end-game content who don't buy the DLC, in true hostage style), but I figured it wouldn't be a super-positive response.

His YouTube handle is Rifle Gaming.

Just read that Bungie has made Prometheus Lens available for purchase from Xur to temporarily address the ass kicking going on in the Crucible. So you can expect everyone to be running around with that gun in PvP until they fix it with a patch on Tuesday? Booooooooo! And what joy, yet another update to expect. I'm sure it will not be smaller then 1 gb.

[Khellendros]

Malankazooie, on 09 December 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

Silencer, on 09 December 2017 - 02:31 AM, said:

Malankazooie, on 08 December 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Damn. A YouTuber who's bread and butter is Destiny content and who posts a video a day on various tips and strategies and Destiny related topics, just totally ripped Bungie and the new Osiris DLC a new one. He was not a happy camper. I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on that garbage.

Which one? I know Byf and Datto and a bunch of others have been quietly critical of the base game so far, but I haven't seen any of their stuff on the Osiris DLC (which has a fucking short campaign and locks people out of end-game content who don't buy the DLC, in true hostage style), but I figured it wouldn't be a super-positive response.

His YouTube handle is Rifle Gaming.

Just read that Bungie has made Prometheus Lens available for purchase from Xur to temporarily address the ass kicking going on in the Crucible. So you can expect everyone to be running around with that gun in PvP until they fix it with a patch on Tuesday? Booooooooo! And what joy, yet another update to expect. I'm sure it will not be smaller then 1 gb.

It was super annoying when only a few people had it. But now...

It's probably the most fun I've had in Crucible! Practically everyone has one and it's just dumb, insane fun. I don't know what it is, but it's just made Crucible feel so relaxed when everyone knows there's nothing they can do but put on a stupidly silly laser light show. I'm finishing every match with 20+ kills.

There's something infectiously hilarious about seeing someone or you yourself burn to a crisp every five seconds.

[Silencer]

Malankazooie, on 09 December 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

Silencer, on 09 December 2017 - 02:31 AM, said:

Malankazooie, on 08 December 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Damn. A YouTuber who's bread and butter is Destiny content and who posts a video a day on various tips and strategies and Destiny related topics, just totally ripped Bungie and the new Osiris DLC a new one. He was not a happy camper. I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on that garbage.

Which one? I know Byf and Datto and a bunch of others have been quietly critical of the base game so far, but I haven't seen any of their stuff on the Osiris DLC (which has a fucking short campaign and locks people out of end-game content who don't buy the DLC, in true hostage style), but I figured it wouldn't be a super-positive response.

His YouTube handle is Rifle Gaming.

Just read that Bungie has made Prometheus Lens available for purchase from Xur to temporarily address the ass kicking going on in the Crucible. So you can expect everyone to be running around with that gun in PvP until they fix it with a patch on Tuesday? Booooooooo! And what joy, yet another update to expect. I'm sure it will not be smaller then 1 gb.

I'll have to check it out.

And yes, yes they did. Why they couldn't just drop a hotfix patch I'll never know. But at least they didn't make it available for real money? I mean, sure, it's probably more fun for everyone to run around like a headless chicken with it in PvP after being smoked by it frustratingly when it was not available to all (ref Khell's post below)...but this is just a dumb solution. Also. I remember Vex Mythoclast. Does anyone else remember Vex Mythoclast? HOW DID THIS BUG NOT GET PICKED UP IN TESTING?!?!? How fucking incompetent do you have to be to miss that it's time-to-kill is like half a second? FFS.

Briar King, on 09 December 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

Oh come on Bungie!!! I just watched the opening section of the “mini” raid and that is the dumbest shit... jumping around in a preschool game of follow the leader. Wow.... I’m kinda happy I don’t raid after seeing that. I don’t hear good things about 1st and I imagine from that stupid bit I just watched I won’t hear good things about the 2nd.

One Youtuber actually had the audacity to introduce that jumping puzzle as being "a bit more complicated than others". I mean, I'm not sure if that's them insulting their own intelligence, or some *really* low-key shade being thrown at Bungie for how pathetic their other "jumping puzzles" have been. Either way, it's not a puzzle. It's one mechanic stretched to breaking point that takes about 10 seconds to figure out and way too long to implement. It's not a puzzle. It's one mechanic. And it is barely involving jumping. Bungie honestly apparently has no clue on how to design a Raid, or a jumping puzzle, or a puzzle in general. I mean...this one is just new levels of embarrassing.