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Mafia 141 - Murder in the Morgue Hospitals aren't safe places!

#441 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:10 AM, said:

Because I don't see how it adds up with your Healer reveal. Neither does your self-vote. I also find it funny how you're so sure Gamelon is scum, but you're not putting your vote down. It looks like you're just giving yourself more options to quickly pile up if votes go elsewhere.


No, I am thinking today will timeout. I voted Gamelon but no one else did, so that's a dead horse today. If I cannot convince you then my CF will because 2 innocent healer CF's then you will know one of us was lying. I hope by revealing early in the day and without a bullshit excuse of a heal that you'll believe me and vote other than Mockra who I think is just a patsy.


At this point I am going to vote Gamelon, but there's still time left and discussion going on

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM

What CF if it's D-day? Posted Image

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:27 AM

Sercs CF after he's killed at night.

It's not a DDay if we don't lynch

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

What CF if it's D-day? Posted Image

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.


So Kaschan was killed and she was the one voting along with Mockra, who was suspecting Gamelon.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 March 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 minutes since time out
7 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Mockra ( Okaros, Bek Okhan, Alkend )
3 Votes for Gamelon ( Serc, Kaschan, Mockra )

Players not voted:

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Day 3 has timed out without a lynch. It is now night.


why the fuck would Mockra kill Kaschan?

Makes more sense for Gamelon to do that and keep suspicion on Mockra and myself.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:37 AM

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

What CF if it's D-day? Posted Image

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.


So Kaschan was killed and she was the one voting along with Mockra, who was suspecting Gamelon.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 March 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 minutes since time out
7 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Mockra ( Okaros, Bek Okhan, Alkend )
3 Votes for Gamelon ( Serc, Kaschan, Mockra )

Players not voted:

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Day 3 has timed out without a lynch. It is now night.


why the fuck would Mockra kill Kaschan?

Makes more sense for Gamelon to do that and keep suspicion on Mockra and myself.


See, this is exactly what I'm thinking. You really wanted Mockra to kill Kaschan and are now losing your shit because he didn't.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:37 AM

to NOT kill Kaschan (...) because he DID, lol*

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?


I'd much rather lynch Gamelon, believe me.

Targeting anyone else than Serc would mean the killer is risking having their target healed, for every ongoing night.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?


Well regardless you have a smaller pool of players to choose from. If we lynch today and there is a kill then we lose. I think if we lynch Mockra that will happen. So either people get their shit together and lynch correctly or we go to night.

Who are you leaning towards then? You 100% sure of Mockra, if so and your seeing something I am not then let me know.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:40 AM

View PostMockra, on 29 March 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?


I'd much rather lynch Gamelon, believe me.

Targeting anyone else than Serc would mean the killer is risking having their target healed, for every ongoing night.


2 heals total, he is unsure how many I have

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:40 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

What CF if it's D-day? Posted Image

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.


So Kaschan was killed and she was the one voting along with Mockra, who was suspecting Gamelon.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 March 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 minutes since time out
7 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Mockra ( Okaros, Bek Okhan, Alkend )
3 Votes for Gamelon ( Serc, Kaschan, Mockra )

Players not voted:

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Day 3 has timed out without a lynch. It is now night.


why the fuck would Mockra kill Kaschan?

Makes more sense for Gamelon to do that and keep suspicion on Mockra and myself.


See, this is exactly what I'm thinking. You really wanted Mockra to kill Kaschan and are now losing your shit because he didn't.



What?

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:42 AM

I'm starting to think that Alkends just a townie eating out of scums hands

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:42 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

to NOT kill Kaschan (...) because he DID, lol*


ah, well no, I think we should steer clear of looking at the night actions, too much wifom, it makes more sense that Gam killed Kasch to have majority against Mockra, than Mockra killing Kasch because I don't see the benefit to Mockra with Kasch dead.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:43 AM

Alkend you around? What do you make of Bek's posts at the moment? They have gone quite erratic

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:46 AM

View PostMockra, on 29 March 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?


I'd much rather lynch Gamelon, believe me.

Targeting anyone else than Serc would mean the killer is risking having their target healed, for every ongoing night.


Which, from the perspective of the Killer, changes... what exactly? If we go to Night, the next day is D-Day again regardless of whether the kill is successful or not.

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Okay, either I'm an idiot and there is something really simple that I'm not getting, or you two are high.

Now do I get it right, that you suggest going to Night so that we let the Killer target Serc to see their CF?

What on earth makes you think scum will target Serc at night after you said this is what you want to happen? And even if we're playing against a really kind Killer who for reasons unknown decides to just follow the advice we gave him right here on thread and Serc CFs Inno, how does it tell us anything we don't already know, ie that either Serc or Fande was lying?


Well regardless you have a smaller pool of players to choose from. If we lynch today and there is a kill then we lose. I think if we lynch Mockra that will happen. So either people get their shit together and lynch correctly or we go to night.

Who are you leaning towards then? You 100% sure of Mockra, if so and your seeing something I am not then let me know.


Again: what is narrowing down the pool going to change? Options on the table right now seem to be Mockra - where I'm pretty sure Alkend and Gamelon will vote and Gamelon - where you and Mockra confirmed you'll vote. I bet you none of these two will be killed this night, which means Gamelon and Mockra will be the two main options again. So, what do we gain by going to Night?

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:47 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

What CF if it's D-day? Posted Image

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.


Why can't Fande be Gamelons or Alkends symp again? Hell he could even be my symp, he had to know that if town believed him the real healer would have to reveal and everything would turn around on him.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:48 AM

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

Alkend you around? What do you make of Bek's posts at the moment? They have gone quite erratic


Lol, I have gone erratic, says claimed healer who put himself on L-1 on D-Day, then suggested going to Night, and also keeps his vote off the person he's sure is scum. Right.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:50 AM

@Mockra: have not considered Fande/Alkend combination, would need to scour the thread to think about it some more and won't be able to do that for the next few hours.

As for symping either Gam or you: Fanderay was focused on bringing as much attention to the two of you as possible on day 1. I'd be very surprised to learn this is Macros' idea of symping.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:51 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

Alkend you around? What do you make of Bek's posts at the moment? They have gone quite erratic


Lol, I have gone erratic, says claimed healer who put himself on L-1 on D-Day, then suggested going to Night, and also keeps his vote off the person he's sure is scum. Right.


But the self-vote achieved exactly what it was supposed to achieve I believe

Night will give us Sercs inno CF, assumingly giving credit to everything he's said, but then town would have to listen in order for that to work.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:54 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

@Mockra: have not considered Fande/Alkend combination, would need to scour the thread to think about it some more and won't be able to do that for the next few hours.

As for symping either Gam or you: Fanderay was focused on bringing as much attention to the two of you as possible on day 1. I'd be very surprised to learn this is Macros' idea of symping.


I don't think he brought that much attention to Gam, his name was already being mentioned often enough, don't recall him ever voting for Gamelon. Plus what I said, everything he said was likely to turn around on him. This argument is irrelevant.

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