[Serc]

Vote Gamelon

I don't care enough to keep going back and forth, he is my main suspect.

If day times out then so be it, if not then at least I feel vindicated when the end of the game comes.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 26 hours and 32 minutes remaining
6 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Gamelon )
1 Vote for Serc ( Alkend )
1 Vote for Gamelon ( Serc )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Mockra, Okaros

[Bek Okhan]

@Mockra, this is Fanderay:

Fanderay, on 21 March 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 21 March 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

Serc, on 21 March 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Mockra had a vote on him from Kaschan, so if I wanted a, what did you call it, a handy day one lynch then why not add to that vote?

Mockra talked about the killers yet Gamelon zoomed in on a particular role.

We don't even know if that role is in the game either!

Hey, let's not lie here. Mockra said a certain someone (we all know he was talking about Macros) was not going to be happy with the roles. I commented that none of the roles are non-standard except for the one non-standard role in the bunch. I all it non-standard because it's not in any of the Mafia 101 stuff, and, frankly, it's the first time I've seen such a role in over 100 games. I don't see how that is role speculation in any way, shape or form, nor is it implying that I think the role is IN the game.

But Serc made a slightly true comment about how I said something that could easily be misconstrued. I must be scum!!!

This post, it's been referenced already but I think it bears highlighting again if for no other reason than it's delicious irony.
Mockra doesn't mention or even handwave Macros' potential reaction to the set up it's a very clear and separate post in which Hanas basically says 'Mac is gona shit'. This kind of blatant mistake is the kind of thing that Macros loves to jump all over.

I feel, after another swift reread, that if Gamelon is scum then I would tether him to Alkend.


Edited for autocorrect shenanigans

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

Mockra and Gamelon have been on the table all day

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

How is Hanas not a kill target?
He's a nothing player. This is who to kill as a killer. Me (pre reveal) mockra and Gamelon have had scrutiny. Serc and Alkend have been noted (by me ambient, but lynching me would have swung the spotlight back on whoever I was suspicious off) kaschan had a vote switch,Bek has said at least something and okaros got ratty with someone.
That left Hanas and epath erule, eparth has done more than Hanas and thus has more to use.

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

No. I think the dog pile on me out of nowhere looks dodgy as fuck. I wake up and what do I see? A load thinly at best reasoned votes, I log back on a while later and there's 2 fucking drive by drop in.
I reveal be no one removes, despite there being at least one player FOR DEFINITE on thread posting, leaving a claimed healer on L-1.

For me, again today, the vote is Gamelon (tied to Alkend in my mind) or Mockra (tied to serc in my mind)

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

nope.

I'm back to my vote Mockra

I read up over the vote train again.


Nearly every vote on me feels like a cheap vote to pull attention from elsewhere, I get it, its day 1 lynches are usually shite, but this was entirely too flimsy to dog pile onto when Gamelon and Mockra were garnering so much attention, so some of it has to be deflection.

I cycle back to Gamelon being overly verbose for me as a killer, ergo, voting Mockra.
Also mockras train position.

There is a lot of throwing shit at Gamelon in there and connecting him to Alkend.

Anyway, I said what I had to say. I think nothing Serc has said since that self-vote makes any sense, but I want to wait for Okaros to weigh in, because he's as close as I have to a non-suspect right now.

[Mockra]

No vote though, and again it's irrelevant either way.

[Bek Okhan]

You asked me yourself why I'm not considering Fanderay as symp, so don't give me this 'irrelevant' bullshit now.

[Mockra]

So say Fande was symp and he fake-revealed. If real healer counter-revealed and town believed the counter, everything he said would be turned against him, so he probably wouldn't exactly praise his masters play? We don't know what he'd do, but it's irrelevant to base such assumptions on something that he said knowing it might be turned around.

[Alkend]

Catching up, running late for work, feeling sick, the usual. How long till timeout?

[Mockra]

About 23 hours

[Alkend]

Ok, then loads of time to take a look at "erratic" Bek.

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on 29 March 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:

So far, barring the speedlynch day Gamelon has shown us three rather different faces. His scrambling today is the most suspicious thing to me.

For me Sercs reveal is certainly simpler option than Fande being truly inno.

Really? Serc revealing on DDay is simpler than Fanderay having been telling the truth? Let's see now. If Fanderay is telling the truth, then Serc is scum trying to win the game by fake revealing. Pretty simple. Once sentence, see? However, if Fanderay was lying, that means that he was probably a symp trying to do three things - survive an extra day, make town believe that their healer was dead, and make it seem like DDay is closer than it actually is. Seems much more complicated than just trying to survive by fake revealing. Fanderay's reveal has repercussions on literally every case that's been made all game, whereas Serc's reveal only has repercussions today (assuming it IS in fact DDay).

[Gamelon]

Okaros, on 29 March 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 06:24 AM, said:

I think today has been manipulated by Gamelon and Alkend. I'll read up further but I think going to night and seeing my cf tomorrow will clear some things up.

Back up here a moment. We've all mentioned the likelihood of it being DDay today and you're suggesting going to night so we can see your cf? There is absolutely no way you should agree to that as town, much less suggest it.

That's also assuming that scum would be likely to target you as a "revealed healer". You've got more dirt stacked up against you than almost anyone else on board Serc. Why would they target you when keeping you alive would give them nearly a 50/50 shot at town shooting itself in the foot and lynching you off your suspicious as fuck play? That's accepting that you're "innocent" of course, which after that I don't believe for a fucking minute.

Someone finally sees the frikkin light!!!!

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

Fine lets all be fuck tards

remove vote

Vote serc

Good game scum.

Wish I had been here for THAT stunt. Would have lynched Serc so hard. It's a clever way to make yourself seem innocent Serc.

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

Day one Alkend is voting Fanderay. Gamelon is not voting anyone.

Day 2 Alkend is voting away from Fanderay and again Gamelon is not voting anyone.

What is interesting here, if Alkend is the killer then he has distanced himself from what he may believe to be the healer

continued...

I'd love it if people would stop talking about people not voting on Day 2 as if it's a bad thing. You guys literally lynched someone within the first 6 hours of the day. That is NOT the way we play Mafia around here, usually. Usually we give people most of the day cycle to talk. At least until the last couple of days of the game. I literally gave my opinion, went home for the night, came back the next day and you had lynched Fanderay.

[Serc]

Gamelon, on 29 March 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

Fine lets all be fuck tards

remove vote

Vote serc

Good game scum.

Wish I had been here for THAT stunt. Would have lynched Serc so hard. It's a clever way to make yourself seem innocent Serc.

Thought you were around.

*Cue Alkend to back you up from now until the end of the day*

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

Wait what the fuck.

I want to hear a good explanation of that self-vote from Serc, because it doesn't make any sense whichever side you're on. If you're town, then what fucking kind of play is that to put yourself at L-1 and say 'gg scum' on D-Day? How many games with townies openly sabotaging their own team are we going to get?

If you're scum, then you have balls made of unobtanium. But I had you pegged as symp at worst so far, so I'm just left scratching my head.

Okaros' immediate removal after Serc's self-vote makes me think Okaros is town.

@PS: Serc does not have a vote on anyone right now if I see correctly.

If Okaros, who I believe to be town, left his vote on me, then I would have left it on me and walked away from the game. Out of you and Alkend I believe one of you to be scum as you have played a very similar game, and are middle of the road posters, with Gamelon as the higher poster. This game is being carefully controlled by scum and no one else can see that it seems but me. I am the only one who is convinced of Gamelon as scum. I'll bet both of my bollocks on it.

You're going to be really disappointed, and bollocksless at the end of the game.

[Gamelon]

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 08:29 AM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

Wait what the fuck.

I want to hear a good explanation of that self-vote from Serc, because it doesn't make any sense whichever side you're on. If you're town, then what fucking kind of play is that to put yourself at L-1 and say 'gg scum' on D-Day? How many games with townies openly sabotaging their own team are we going to get?

If you're scum, then you have balls made of unobtanium. But I had you pegged as symp at worst so far, so I'm just left scratching my head.

Okaros' immediate removal after Serc's self-vote makes me think Okaros is town.

@PS: Serc does not have a vote on anyone right now if I see correctly.

If Okaros, who I believe to be town, left his vote on me, then I would have left it on me and walked away from the game. Out of you and Alkend I believe one of you to be scum as you have played a very similar game, and are middle of the road posters, with Gamelon as the higher poster. This game is being carefully controlled by scum and no one else can see that it seems but me. I am the only one who is convinced of Gamelon as scum. I'll bet both of my bollocks on it.

This is such bullshit. You claim a Healer - assuming D-Day, our last glimmer of hope - and self-vote? What kind of play is that? And if you're so sure Gamelon is the Killer, where's your vote?

Also, if you're so sure that Gamelon is paired with either me or Alkend then who was Fande?

^^^^^^^^^

[Alkend]

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 02:02 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 29 March 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

Fine lets all be fuck tards

remove vote

Vote serc

Good game scum.

Wish I had been here for THAT stunt. Would have lynched Serc so hard. It's a clever way to make yourself seem innocent Serc.

Thought you were around.

*Cue Alkend to back you up from now until the end of the day*

I'm already voting you.

And for the record, these JPK-esque self vote stunts always make me think WíFOM. Especially when the lynch doesn't go through.

Okaros' reaction tell us smth about him. But we have no way to gauge how genuine you were, putting yourself @ L-1. So it tells us nothing about you, short of your predilection for drama. But we already know that, since if you wanted to make things easy and believable for the average RI, you'd have counter-revealed earlier than the supposed D-Day.

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

to NOT kill Kaschan (...) because he DID, lol*

ah, well no, I think we should steer clear of looking at the night actions, too much wifom, it makes more sense that Gam killed Kasch to have majority against Mockra, than Mockra killing Kasch because I don't see the benefit to Mockra with Kasch dead.

It's super cute that you're saying that Serc, when literally like a dozen posts earlier you were saying this:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

What CF if it's D-day?

Also, there are two people claiming Healer. Do you think I'm not already convinced one of them is lying?

My theory right now is: you're Mockra's symp and freaked out when Mockra took out Kaschan, because this means he left alive the 4 people who made clear their intention to vote Mockra out. Now you're desperately trying to deflect from Mockra.

I want to hear Okaros' thoughts on that, because with you/Mockra and Gam/Alkend essentially pitted against each other, it looks like it's mine and his vote that will decide the lynch.

Also, if I'm right that the scum team is one of these two pairs, that means Fande was genuine, which implies Serc is a bullshitter.

So Kaschan was killed and she was the one voting along with Mockra, who was suspecting Gamelon.

Path-Shaper, on 28 March 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 minutes since time out
7 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Serc ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Mockra ( Okaros, Bek Okhan, Alkend )
3 Votes for Gamelon ( Serc, Kaschan, Mockra )

Players not voted:

-----------

Day 3 has timed out without a lynch. It is now night.

why the fuck would Mockra kill Kaschan?

Makes more sense for Gamelon to do that and keep suspicion on Mockra and myself.

So it's okay for YOU to make a case using the Night Actions, but not anyone else? Such a hypocrite.

[Gamelon]

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

Alkend you around? What do you make of Bek's posts at the moment? They have gone quite erratic

Lol, I have gone erratic, says claimed healer who put himself on L-1 on D-Day, then suggested going to Night, and also keeps his vote off the person he's sure is scum. Right.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on 29 March 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 March 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

Alkend you around? What do you make of Bek's posts at the moment? They have gone quite erratic

Lol, I have gone erratic, says claimed healer who put himself on L-1 on D-Day, then suggested going to Night, and also keeps his vote off the person he's sure is scum. Right.

But the self-vote achieved exactly what it was supposed to achieve I believe

Night will give us Sercs inno CF, assumingly giving credit to everything he's said, but then town would have to listen in order for that to work.

You're fucking dumb if you think that the killers would ever do exactly what Serc says. The best way for scum to win this if we go night and Serc is, in fact, the healer, is to leave Serc alive. Cause then we'd be exactly where we are right now, with one less person.