[bubba]

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

Looking at the vote recap I have Bubba as a possible symp and JPK and HD possible partners.

Symp? Where the hell did that come from?

Edit: cross post

The vote of HD, then the quick change to Khell after he voted JPK. No one else has drummed it up, and I only saw it as I was looking at vote occurrence.

My vote came from the wording of his post, not his vote.

Of course you would paint it that way but the timing is what suggests otherwise.

You cant say I made him write that post that way. Good try though.

[Mentalist]

Blend, on 21 February 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Oh, and if you haven't yet gathered, I'm back @ the office. My phone's dying though, and I got an emergency dumped on me, so I'll be around sporadically.

On fwiw, I'm not liking the self-vote drama. It's Day 1, I'm pretty happy to check if it's BS or not.

OMG people - if we don't lynch Khell today, we get to live another Day 1! If we lynch Khell today and he CFs town, then I'm more than happy to look closer at JPK. If he flips scum, however, then JPK is a waste of a lynch, and we won't have to spend the whole second day figuring that out.

It's only gonna be another Day 1 if YOU keep harping on "khell must die".

[HoosierDaddy]

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Also, if my partner self-voted to put themselves at L-1 I'd be blowing them up in PMs to Path Shaper, lol.

Yes but look at what Blend just said about your possible cf, has you as PI. Just a thought but 3 votes went down on Khell quite quick after his vote of JPK and Bubba was the one to start that. If JPK comes back as scum, you'd be who I would look at first.

Fair enough.

But, in context, my vote still isn't really for Khell. It's more for alleviating the clusterfuck on thread.

....and your "fence sitting" continues.

You feel confident in any of this? If so, good for you. Calling it as I see it.

[Tattersail_]

Siergiej, on 20 February 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

Finally done with reading up. Here's some thoughts that came to me as I was going through the thread.

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

Siergiej have you ever motorboated anybody?

When I was about 21, I went to a gay club with my brother and there was a hen do, the bride to be had the biggest knockers, they were humungus, I asked her if she had ever been motor boated and she said she did not know what that was, so I showed her, first hand, which got a good laugh from the Hen party, a drink for me and my bro and a story for them to tell in later years. I'd never do that now, not because I am married with a kid, but because what the fuck must I have been thinking!

Certainly not in a gay club. I think I was only in a gay club once. It was in London and we kinda went there by a mistake, we just went into some place straight off the street. I remember I went to the restroom and there was an enormous black guy operating the soap and paper towel dispensers. I was like fuuuuck this is more than a little awkward.

Mentalist, on 20 February 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

I actually really like nickelback, hating them is just something that has become internet cool to do.
They play their own instruments, write their own songs and don't mime live.
This puts them ahead of 90% of the shite played on "popular" radio.

that aside. I'm coming out swinging

vote blend

Nothing to do with my vote on HD or Blend's on Khell?

It's not like you to vote straight off the bat

What are you talking about? Maccy always votes early, unless he's scum. He's reiterated that countless times.

I also like several of Nickelback's songs/

ffs, Ment.

Okay, now to more serious matters, namely, Khellyanne and JPK. For the good part of the thread I actually had Mess pinned as scum. Every time Blend came back with his VOTE KHELL posts, Mess was there to encourage that but withheld his own vote. He was pouring gasoline on the fire, but through a pipette. But then JPK came around with the scummiest post in the game so far and it diverted my attention:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

For reference

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

So I'm ok with joining the naked train on Khell for sure.

As an alternative, while were starting to look at lynching based off of meta grudges, I would like to suggest an early lynch of Macros. He has a habit of trusting his gut over his logic that has directly led to several wins for scum. I might also still be bitter over the ending of the Evil Twins game.

Interesting, so you want to lynch Mac for a reason which is definitely not to do with him being scum, but specifically for being a (badly playing) RI.


Vote JPK

Yeah, and I stand by that statement. I have been caught on the wrong end of Macros' gut judgement too many times. It was entirely a comment on the meta interplay between him and I, that usually ends up with me dead either by lynch or NK.

However, I didn't put my actual vote on Maccy. In fact, I never came back to that comment. But Khell sure as hell picked it up and is trying to run with it. Don't let him run circles around us again. We should all know better than that by now.

Of course you didn't vote. That's what cemented its scumminess. You just oh so gently "joke not joke" prodded it forward.

Wrong. Blatantly false. If I wanted to truly go after Maccy I would have. If I were scum and you town why would I have tried to split up the train today? You were already in the lead for lynching right out of the gates. I threw out an alternative to see what you would do with it, and you took the bait Khell.

You threw out an alternative because you know I'm town and it would make you look good. Then you voted for me anyway with little to no reasoning because that's what scum do.

Khell, Khell, you are give me FAR too much credit. When have I ever shown that much complexity in my play? Let's be honest here, I haven't. Only one of us has word-twisting skills on the level of Kellyanne Conway, and we all know it's not me.

I did purposely put that little line about being willing to vote for you at the top of my "case" on Maccy though to grab your attention. Because I wanted to see what you would do with it. You did not disappoint in the slightest.

JPK manages to claim he masterminded a bait Khell very conveniently fell into and that he does not do complex play in the same post. Almost in the same sentence. Later he reiterates that claim. And from then on he goes into a Blend-worthy loop of LYNCH KHELL. This is a Sean Spicer level of bullshit.

Another person that has piqued my interest is Nom. I'm not gonna quote his case on JPK for the sake of readability (the post is long and mostly consists of nested quotes but it's this one: https://forum.malaza...18#entry1274818) but it was a decent one. The catch on the timing of JPK's posts was really good, coming back to JPK's latch onto the 'so-called slip', obviously the bait bullshit. For a D1 case it really comes together... BUT THEN.

Nom does this:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

Now you can go on and call my post a distraction from Khell and for those who haven't done so yet make it an excuse to do so now

I cannot stress out how much I hate this type of play. It has smug scum written all over it. A player who posts a reasonable-looking case and then immediately pokes holes in it to pre-emptively make any counterclaim look scummy. I HATE it. Like Nickelback's music, it's too clean and completely dishonest.

I am not quite ready to vote yet, but trying to decide between JPK and Nom right now. It's Sean Spicer versus Nickelback, tough call, I'd like to lynch both. And for the sake for future SH gloating, I will not be surprised at all if Blend and Khell turn out to be paired killers just fucking with us. But that's pure gut, so not going down that avenue.

Also, I already have my Lana del Rey playlist ready to get me into a sufficiently suicidal mood for when I'm gonna need to re-read the thread and plow through pages upon pages of Mess' pubic hair (or was that Tatts?) and pics of bear balls.

This is why Ment.

[Tattersail_]

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

Looking at the vote recap I have Bubba as a possible symp and JPK and HD possible partners.

Symp? Where the hell did that come from?

Edit: cross post

The vote of HD, then the quick change to Khell after he voted JPK. No one else has drummed it up, and I only saw it as I was looking at vote occurrence.

My vote came from the wording of his post, not his vote.

Of course you would paint it that way but the timing is what suggests otherwise.

You cant say I made him write that post that way. Good try though.

True, but it gave you an excuse to remove from HD and protect JPK.

[Siergiej]

My vote against Nom is based solely on this:

Siergiej, on 20 February 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

Another person that has piqued my interest is Nom. I'm not gonna quote his case on JPK for the sake of readability (the post is long and mostly consists of nested quotes but it's this one: https://forum.malaza...18#entry1274818) but it was a decent one. The catch on the timing of JPK's posts was really good, coming back to JPK's latch onto the 'so-called slip', obviously the bait bullshit. For a D1 case it really comes together... BUT THEN.

Nom does this:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

Now you can go on and call my post a distraction from Khell and for those who haven't done so yet make it an excuse to do so now

I cannot stress out how much I hate this type of play. It has smug scum written all over it. A player who posts a reasonable-looking case and then immediately pokes holes in it to pre-emptively make any counterclaim look scummy. I HATE it. Like Nickelback's music, it's too clean and completely dishonest.

I am not quite ready to vote yet, but trying to decide between JPK and Nom right now. It's Sean Spicer versus Nickelback, tough call, I'd like to lynch both. And for the sake for future SH gloating, I will not be surprised at all if Blend and Khell turn out to be paired killers just fucking with us. But that's pure gut, so not going down that avenue.

I find that post very scummy.

[Blend]

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

Blend, on 21 February 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Oh, and if you haven't yet gathered, I'm back @ the office. My phone's dying though, and I got an emergency dumped on me, so I'll be around sporadically.

On fwiw, I'm not liking the self-vote drama. It's Day 1, I'm pretty happy to check if it's BS or not.

OMG people - if we don't lynch Khell today, we get to live another Day 1! If we lynch Khell today and he CFs town, then I'm more than happy to look closer at JPK. If he flips scum, however, then JPK is a waste of a lynch, and we won't have to spend the whole second day figuring that out.

It's only gonna be another Day 1 if YOU keep harping on "khell must die".

Which I think I've made quite clear that I will.

I mean, just the fact that there's so much opposition to a Khell vote is suspicious.

[Tattersail_]

Your vote on Khell is because it is Khell. That isn't mafia. In a way that is bullying

Khell is a human too Blend.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

Khell is a human too Blend.

Woah woah woah.... If this isn't the biggest lie so far in this game I don't know what is...

Listen, I made my case very clear from the very beginning of the day. It's an altless game, so I can be certain that Khell is, in fact, Khell. So he must be lynched. I will not rest until he is (or I'm killed). I then proceeded to create an environment conducive to Khell getting lynched. He has the same percent chance of anyone else on this thread being scum. There are lots of actions and reactions today that we can then use Khell's CF to analyze the shit out of, so not only did I create an environment conducive to having Khell lynched, I've also created one that's rich in material to use in the days going forward. Seems like I'm fucking pulling my weight here, all you're doing is sitting on a fence, trying to create cases on anyone BUT Khell.

[JPK]

After a bit more thought, I'd be willing but hesitant to switch to a nom vote. There just isn't enough information to convince me of his likely membership in the scum pool.

I believe that either Khell or I has to die today for a meaningful day 1 resolution. If we both somehow live through to day 2, we WILL end up back at this point.

I know that the self-vote is making a few of you flinch in distaste, especially since I seem to have a habit of it. However, I see my lynch today as being strictly beneficial to town. You'll see my CI, so you'll know why my loyalty lies and can look at who was early to set me up for the alternate lynch.

Khell is STILL my lynch of choice.

[Mentalist]

So you agree that there's no merit to lynching khell over anyone else, beyond stroking your ego.

Whereas the alternative train has a case and some decently dodgy behaviour by JPK, including a self-vote that I really don't like.

[Mentalist]

Xpost, the above was aimed @ Blend, obv

[Itwæs Nom]

Siergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?

There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?

I vaguely recall someone suggesting that Blend is possibly just an honest townie who happens to be very useful to scum - a train of thought I'm tentatively accepting. If there was more, I didn't notice. Will look for it in the evening when I have more time.

What about a certain vote?

I had a real quick look but unless I'm missing something, there was only this:

HoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote blend

This tunnel vision is grating and is easy to play off day 2 if Khell comes back innocent.

Fine you think Khell is scum, what do you make of the rest of the players?

I see what you are getting at, but it'd be one hell of a ballsy play as scum to do this.

Doesn't seem that ballsy considering all the stuff that's been spouted today and how many people followed/ have been following the approach.

Sometimes it's good to be unfettered from the past. Plus it's only 3 people. I think Bubba is a little more fluid, but he can speak for himself.

That's literally 3 sentences. I'd like to hear what other people think about Blend.

That's it.

You haven't even shared what you think about Blend in the first place

JPK, on 21 February 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

Sierg, I'd be willing. I'm not as solid on him though. I suspect that he's town and falling for his habit of seeing me as scum no matter what I do.

Yeah yeah that might or might not play a role too to be fair

[Andorion]

Now I want to vote JPK. For no other reason than lynching Khell will be doing exactly what Blend wants. And I don't like being told what to do

[Tattersail_]

Can we get a vote count PS?

[Tattersail_]

Andorion, on 21 February 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Now I want to vote JPK. For no other reason than lynching Khell will be doing exactly what Blend wants. And I don't like being told what to do

what if you are tied up and she likes telling you what do?

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 21 February 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

Khell is a human too Blend.

Woah woah woah.... If this isn't the biggest lie so far in this game I don't know what is...

Listen, I made my case very clear from the very beginning of the day. It's an altless game, so I can be certain that Khell is, in fact, Khell. So he must be lynched. I will not rest until he is (or I'm killed). I then proceeded to create an environment conducive to Khell getting lynched. He has the same percent chance of anyone else on this thread being scum. There are lots of actions and reactions today that we can then use Khell's CF to analyze the shit out of, so not only did I create an environment conducive to having Khell lynched, I've also created one that's rich in material to use in the days going forward. Seems like I'm fucking pulling my weight here, all you're doing is sitting on a fence, trying to create cases on anyone BUT Khell.

I am not rushing to lynch anybody. I have voted and removed from JPK to let the day have its full breath. Khell has not come back yet to add his fill either.

[JPK]

Andorion, on 21 February 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Now I want to vote JPK. For no other reason than lynching Khell will be doing exactly what Blend wants. And I don't like being told what to do

FFS Ando. I'm willing to go down today to help town. I've made that clear. But at least have a real fucking reason to vote me besides "it will irritate Blend." If you want to place a protest vote based off Blend's play, then vote for Blend.

[Tattersail_]

I'd propose we all lynch Blend

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 10 hours 10 minutes remaining

Players still alive: (JPK, Nom, Ment, Tatts, Khell, HD, Blend, Ando, Messremb, SiergieJ, Mac, Bubba)

12 players alive. 7 votes to lynch, 6 to go night.

5 votes Khell (Blend, Bubba, Messremb, JPK, HD)
5 votes JPK (Khell, Mac, Nom, Ment, JPK)
1 vote Nom (SiergieJ)




Players not voted: (Ando, Tatts)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 February 2017 - 05:00 PM