[Messremb]

Mentalist, on 20 February 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 20 February 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

What the fuck??

I left you for what, 10 hours, and there's twice as much content on thread than in the whole mafia game I modded last month. Bastards. And everyone's naked.

Lemme read up and figure out what's happening.

Content? Hmm, be sure to pull that up for us.

Oh look, I quoted the same thing twice. Again.

you'll just keep doing that to irritate me, aren't you?

I might do

[Messremb]

Mentalist, on 20 February 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 20 February 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

What the fuck??

I left you for what, 10 hours, and there's twice as much content on thread than in the whole mafia game I modded last month. Bastards. And everyone's naked.

Lemme read up and figure out what's happening.

Content? Hmm, be sure to pull that up for us.

Oh look, I quoted the same thing twice. Again.

you'll just keep doing that to irritate me, aren't you?

That might be a bit petty though.

I'll try not to too often

[Messremb]

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?

[Blend]

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?

I think it's a clear indication that Khell is scum and should be lynched.

[Messremb]

Blend, on 20 February 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?

I think it's a clear indication that Khell is scum and should be lynched.

Yes totally but given that I totally and utterly agree with your every word in game thus far, what do you think of Tatts?

[Tattersail_]

Be kind

[Mentalist]

I've gotta go to the city for a bit to run some errands. I'll keep checking on my phone if there's gonna be anything exciting happening.

Should be back in a few hours.

[Blend]

I think Tatts, having seen that I was going to do my best to throw as much shit as possible Khell's way during Day 1, has decided to sit back and see where the chips lie. Sure, he's not spewing piles of shit all over the place like he usually does, but he has taken a stand (firmly driving the wedge Khell needs deeper) and made his stand perfectly clear. He thinks that I'm playing some ballsy scum move, and is more than happy to let me burn for it. Fine. He's certainly not likely to be the first person I'll be looking at after Khell's lynch, but he's higher up on my list than quite a few others, and Khell's CF could bump him up or down that list depending on what it is.

[JPK]

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

fuck it

I feel dirty for saying this but I want to test Khells theory

vote JPK

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

regarding all the votes on Khell.

are any of them actually anything other than
OH ITS KHELL< LYNCH KHELL!!

So far as the case on Macros goes, it's non-existent because he's barely been around. What I find interesting about him in specific is that he latched onto Khell's case on me and tried to weaken the fight to lynch the slippery bastard. Potential low-poster partner for Khell. I don't think it likely that he'd be symp.

[HoosierDaddy]

I'm heading home from work. Will be back on later. 50 minute skype interview is fun. At least this one had actual questions for me rather than the typical: "I, no, I don't really have any questions right now." More me talking.

[JPK]

I'll have to delay the case on Nom a bit further since I gotta take off for a bit and he's been much more active than Macros at this point. It's going to require a bit more time and thought than that first case required.

[Macros]

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

fuck it

I feel dirty for saying this but I want to test Khells theory

vote JPK

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

regarding all the votes on Khell.

are any of them actually anything other than
OH ITS KHELL< LYNCH KHELL!!

So far as the case on Macros goes, it's non-existent because he's barely been around. What I find interesting about him in specific is that he latched onto Khell's case on me and tried to weaken the fight to lynch the slippery bastard. Potential low-poster partner for Khell. I don't think it likely that he'd be symp.

So you're voting for khell because you think he is scum. Ok, why?
Again

Your votes have been nothing other than OMG WE MUST LYNCH KHELL DERP DERP DERP

Khell has put forth at least a modicum of reasoning to his vote to you, which has seemingly pushed people into further frothing at the mouth absurdism.
We get it, khell is sneaky.
So the fuck what, he has done nothing scummy so far and this deluded rhetoric of blends is quite frankly iritating. Always lynch khell, even if he's town we have to lynch him.
What if he's a guard, a healer or a cop?
How in under fuck would lynching him be beficial for the town?
The nonsense has passed, we have real stuff to play with now and blindly lynching khell because of previous games, without even comparing his play to town or scum performances is fucking retarded.

[Macros]

I'm going to bed.
Don't stand outside in the rain, you might drown

[Siergiej]

Finally done with reading up. Here's some thoughts that came to me as I was going through the thread.

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

Siergiej have you ever motorboated anybody?

When I was about 21, I went to a gay club with my brother and there was a hen do, the bride to be had the biggest knockers, they were humungus, I asked her if she had ever been motor boated and she said she did not know what that was, so I showed her, first hand, which got a good laugh from the Hen party, a drink for me and my bro and a story for them to tell in later years. I'd never do that now, not because I am married with a kid, but because what the fuck must I have been thinking!

Certainly not in a gay club. I think I was only in a gay club once. It was in London and we kinda went there by a mistake, we just went into some place straight off the street. I remember I went to the restroom and there was an enormous black guy operating the soap and paper towel dispensers. I was like fuuuuck this is more than a little awkward.

Mentalist, on 20 February 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Macros, on 20 February 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

I actually really like nickelback, hating them is just something that has become internet cool to do.
They play their own instruments, write their own songs and don't mime live.
This puts them ahead of 90% of the shite played on "popular" radio.

that aside. I'm coming out swinging

vote blend

Nothing to do with my vote on HD or Blend's on Khell?

It's not like you to vote straight off the bat

What are you talking about? Maccy always votes early, unless he's scum. He's reiterated that countless times.

I also like several of Nickelback's songs/

ffs, Ment.

Okay, now to more serious matters, namely, Khellyanne and JPK. For the good part of the thread I actually had Mess pinned as scum. Every time Blend came back with his VOTE KHELL posts, Mess was there to encourage that but withheld his own vote. He was pouring gasoline on the fire, but through a pipette. But then JPK came around with the scummiest post in the game so far and it diverted my attention:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

For reference

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

So I'm ok with joining the naked train on Khell for sure.

As an alternative, while were starting to look at lynching based off of meta grudges, I would like to suggest an early lynch of Macros. He has a habit of trusting his gut over his logic that has directly led to several wins for scum. I might also still be bitter over the ending of the Evil Twins game.

Interesting, so you want to lynch Mac for a reason which is definitely not to do with him being scum, but specifically for being a (badly playing) RI.


Vote JPK

Yeah, and I stand by that statement. I have been caught on the wrong end of Macros' gut judgement too many times. It was entirely a comment on the meta interplay between him and I, that usually ends up with me dead either by lynch or NK.

However, I didn't put my actual vote on Maccy. In fact, I never came back to that comment. But Khell sure as hell picked it up and is trying to run with it. Don't let him run circles around us again. We should all know better than that by now.

Of course you didn't vote. That's what cemented its scumminess. You just oh so gently "joke not joke" prodded it forward.

Wrong. Blatantly false. If I wanted to truly go after Maccy I would have. If I were scum and you town why would I have tried to split up the train today? You were already in the lead for lynching right out of the gates. I threw out an alternative to see what you would do with it, and you took the bait Khell.

You threw out an alternative because you know I'm town and it would make you look good. Then you voted for me anyway with little to no reasoning because that's what scum do.

Khell, Khell, you are give me FAR too much credit. When have I ever shown that much complexity in my play? Let's be honest here, I haven't. Only one of us has word-twisting skills on the level of Kellyanne Conway, and we all know it's not me.

I did purposely put that little line about being willing to vote for you at the top of my "case" on Maccy though to grab your attention. Because I wanted to see what you would do with it. You did not disappoint in the slightest.

JPK manages to claim he masterminded a bait Khell very conveniently fell into and that he does not do complex play in the same post. Almost in the same sentence. Later he reiterates that claim. And from then on he goes into a Blend-worthy loop of LYNCH KHELL. This is a Sean Spicer level of bullshit.

Another person that has piqued my interest is Nom. I'm not gonna quote his case on JPK for the sake of readability (the post is long and mostly consists of nested quotes but it's this one: https://forum.malaza...18#entry1274818) but it was a decent one. The catch on the timing of JPK's posts was really good, coming back to JPK's latch onto the 'so-called slip', obviously the bait bullshit. For a D1 case it really comes together... BUT THEN.

Nom does this:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

Now you can go on and call my post a distraction from Khell and for those who haven't done so yet make it an excuse to do so now

I cannot stress out how much I hate this type of play. It has smug scum written all over it. A player who posts a reasonable-looking case and then immediately pokes holes in it to pre-emptively make any counterclaim look scummy. I HATE it. Like Nickelback's music, it's too clean and completely dishonest.

I am not quite ready to vote yet, but trying to decide between JPK and Nom right now. It's Sean Spicer versus Nickelback, tough call, I'd like to lynch both. And for the sake for future SH gloating, I will not be surprised at all if Blend and Khell turn out to be paired killers just fucking with us. But that's pure gut, so not going down that avenue.

Also, I already have my Lana del Rey playlist ready to get me into a sufficiently suicidal mood for when I'm gonna need to re-read the thread and plow through pages upon pages of Mess' pubic hair (or was that Tatts?) and pics of bear balls.

[HoosierDaddy]

So, it almost seems like a faction game right now. I'm being serious. You have one group gunning for Khell, and refusing to acknowledge really anyone else until he's eliminated. Another group that is at least semi-protective, looking for alternatives. And then others that are not really concerned with that particular fight, but more so locating scum.

We can't let this stalemate. It's still fairly early days, but I don't know how we can continue to let this linger past day one without massively fucking up day two as well. It'll hang around.

That being said, I'm going to lay my provisional vote before I go to bed here in a couple of hours. I'll be in and out in the meanwhile.

[JPK]

Alright guys, you're saying that there is no case on Khell. I'll lay it out for those of you that need it gift-wrapped.

He's Khell, and he's being loud and attracting attention on day one. He's not hiding and trying to stay out of the spotlight. Now, I know that I don't have the years worth of interplay with him that some of you do, but over the games that I have played with him, I have noticed that whenever Khell is loud and active in the early game stages he's either RI or he's Scum. He intentionally plays the two roles very similarly. To add to that, whenever he has had a town role, he has hidden for the first couple of days so that he can get maximum use out of the role. I'm also not seeing a certain amount of smugness that I'm used to seeing out of him whenever he's roled.

His first post coming into things was a joke suggestion that we lynch either Tatts or Blend based on past meta interaction without laying down an actual vote. Which he then slammed me for a short time later.

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

I know I say this every game and so it somewhat loses its value, but:

Lynching me would be a mistake.

Also killing me would be a mistake.


Instead, I propose an experiment: lynch Blend or Tatts and see if their heads literally explode. Blend, Tatts, we'll require a live video feed.

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

For reference

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

JPK, on 20 February 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

So I'm ok with joining the naked train on Khell for sure.

As an alternative, while were starting to look at lynching based off of meta grudges, I would like to suggest an early lynch of Macros. He has a habit of trusting his gut over his logic that has directly led to several wins for scum. I might also still be bitter over the ending of the Evil Twins game.

Interesting, so you want to lynch Mac for a reason which is definitely not to do with him being scum, but specifically for being a (badly playing) RI.


Vote JPK

Yeah, and I stand by that statement. I have been caught on the wrong end of Macros' gut judgement too many times. It was entirely a comment on the meta interplay between him and I, that usually ends up with me dead either by lynch or NK.

However, I didn't put my actual vote on Maccy. In fact, I never came back to that comment. But Khell sure as hell picked it up and is trying to run with it. Don't let him run circles around us again. We should all know better than that by now.

Of course you didn't vote. That's what cemented its scumminess. You just oh so gently "joke not joke" prodded it forward.

Finally, and here's what really gathered my vote: He put himself into the role of Donald Trump in the roleplay earlier. If that isn't one of the scummiest things I've ever seen...

[JPK]

HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 12:39 AM, said:

So, it almost seems like a faction game right now. I'm being serious. You have one group gunning for Khell, and refusing to acknowledge really anyone else until he's eliminated. Another group that is at least semi-protective, looking for alternatives. And then others that are not really concerned with that particular fight, but more so locating scum.

We can't let this stalemate. It's still fairly early days, but I don't know how we can continue to let this linger past day one without massively fucking up day two as well. It'll hang around.

That being said, I'm going to lay my provisional vote before I go to bed here in a couple of hours. I'll be in and out in the meanwhile.

You're right, we can't let this stalemate and circle back into day 2. If it comes down to it, I'll add my vote to my own train. When I come up RI, you'll have more information to work on from my train to find out where you should have lynched.

Before you all accuse me of being suicidal again, this is a worst case scenario for me. I don't want to be knocked out day 1, but I'd rather take the bullet and point you guys in the right direction with more information and a smaller suspect pool than go through this "no, you!" bullshit again day 2.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 24 hours 52 minutes remaining

Players still alive: (JPK, Nom, Ment, Tatts, Khell, HD, Blend, Ando, Messremb, SiergieJ, Mac, Bubba)

12 players alive. 7 votes to lynch, 6 to go night.

4 votes Khell (Blend, Bubba, Messremb, JPK)
4 votes JPK (Khell, Mac, Nom, Ment)
1 vote Blend (Tatts)



Players not voted: (HD, Ando,SiergieJ)

[HoosierDaddy]

Alright, I have it at 4x4x1: JPK, Khell, Blend.

I'll stick around for a bit but I always lay a vote down before I go to bed for the most part.

Seems to me as if there is an intractable group of 3 voters, while others might see reason. I think it's best to relieve this situation now, but I don't necessarily agree with the tactics.

For now:

Vote Khellenderos

[HoosierDaddy]

Nice cross post, lol.