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Why is HD asking people who to look at? Why not take initiative? Who do you want to look at, HD?
HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:
Khellendros, on 21 February 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:
Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:
Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:46 PM, said:
How about this. Lynch my target, whose scum CF will indicate I am town. If he's not scum (and he will be) then lynch me, I won't even fight it or nothing.
It's a win-win.
Now, are you willing to stand by this?
Nope. I don't give up if it's in town's interests for me not to.
Shocking twist!
Ok Khell, Mac, who do you want to look at now?
As, interestingly, Mac says immediately:
Macros, on 21 February 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:
you.
for that single post right there.
Having been challenged, HD volunteers what he will do (not sure if he did or not?)
HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:
I ask because I'm assuming Blend still wants Khell gone, but with the RI find it throws a little more shade your way than before.
I"m going to read back over a couple of players that haven't really stood out to me so I don't have much of a feel: Sierj, Ando, Bubba.
Mess prods towards Nom:
Messremb, on 21 February 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:
I wasn't asked but I'd take a closer look at Nom after that post back on page 10?
Macros challenges HD further after that, which is either good distancing, or puts paid to my Mac/HD theory which was brewing yesterday.
Bubba names a lot of possibles here.
Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:
Khellendros, on 21 February 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:
And I'd like to know what my slip was because I appear to have missed it. I found it interesting Bubba never explained it.
The slip was the way worded a post calling us the so called townies and we should not be trusted.
My gut says that team scum this game is you and HD being the killers with Mac as a symp. That being said taking into account my track record it is more than likely Ment and serg are the killers, with Blend as a symp. No real feeling on Nom.
Early day 2 vote from Bubba, to go with an early day 1 vote. And starting off with talking up Nickleback. Bubba's been playing a fast-draw game and then recede into the background. I don't know how I feel about that yet. The quick decisions are more townie feeling, the withdrawing afterward isn't.
Bubba, on 21 February 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:
I think I will go with what makes the most sense to me. I think Kell is one of the killers, not by the way he has played, but how those around him have. HD slipped on to Kells train when it looked like his lynch was going to happen (it's how I would play it if it looked my partner was going to be lynched) and macs supper whiny post gives it more validity to me. I'm going to start day two off with a vote on HD his fence sitting posting style, and the way it looked like he was hiding on the Kell train is all I have at the moment. I'm open to a better case if one gets made.
vote HD
HD responds to the Bubba vote. The underlined: So what? Who was to know that JPK would turn out RI, aside from scum?
HoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:
I didn't slip onto the Khell train. I explained why. I thought we needed to get rid of Khell or Blend, or otherwise D2 would be the same as Day 1. Now that happens not to have happened so far, but Blend's gone quiet for now. Hopefully it will continue to be typical mafia now.
Also, I could have slipped off onto someone else pretty easily. I didn't because of the above reasoning.
If he was my partner, I would have been much more likely to help lynch JPK by moving over to that train. JPK had to vote himself off because I didn't, and notice I was NOT on the RI town train.
But, I can't really defend my overall play-style. It is the way it is. I said earlier that I'm on the fence until I'm not. I got off the fence and stayed there.
I've felt your eye on me since your post earlier about "fence-sitting," it's obvious you don't like that style. But it is what it is.
I find it a bit strange that with everything that has gone down on D1 you come out swinging at a much less likely target.
Messremb finally gets going on day 2, does an assessment/summary of how the votes went down on day 1. Concludes that he thinks Siergiej and Andorion should be looked at more closely for tipping the JPK train. I disagree on Sierg, who actually went and followed a new train on Blend for a while - not something I see scum doing at that point. Andorion perhaps.
Speaking of, why did Andorion go back to find my first post? This is not part of a lengthier analysis, he just literally picked up on this post. That is not a "hang on a second", that is a, "I specifically went to seek this one post out to show you guys."
Andorion, on 22 February 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:
Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:
I know I say this every game and so it somewhat loses its value, but:
Lynching me would be a mistake.
Also killing me would be a mistake.
Instead, I propose an experiment: lynch Blend or Tatts and see if their heads literally explode. Blend, Tatts, we'll require a live video feed.
Hang on a second...
That comment about lynching is fine given Blend pushing, but why is Khell thinking in terms of killing?
Only a killer worries about killing.
Ergo Khell is scum
Macros also later votes for HD
Macros, on 22 February 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:
I'm going to follow bubba into a
Vote HD
reading through his posts, he didn't see the merit of the khell vote based on khell being khell.
his eventual rationale for it was to break up the intractable voters, and stuck there when the swing was heading JPKs way (pre self vote).
I dunno, there's something about it just read like, here's a reason for me to not be on JPKs train. as it was going to flip town.
come on down HD, the fence must hurt your ass
Nom makes a case on Macros - a case which I liked at the time, and followed. I still kind of like it, but reading through Mac's game overall there's less of a sense of him being a killer (case is quite big, it is post #683).
Siergiej gives out two theories - one on Mess being a killer, the other being me. I'm ready to give the Mess one a bit more credence now (post #690). Siergiej is also working harder than I gave him credit for before.
Siergiej also looks at HD, points out he never did do that Ando/Bubba/Sierg analysis.
HD does turn up eventually, saying he suspects Siergiej and Messremb, and voting the former.
Ment, absent for most of day 2, started drawing up my suspicion. But then he came on, read through, posted a few questions, and provided this excellent summary and assessment. Ment is playing well, for one team or another, depending on the genuineness of his analysis
Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:
I'm not getting scum vibes from Sierg. I felt he might be JPK's partner on day 1, after he started vote-hopping following JPK's self-vote to L-1, but that theory invalidated itself.
Also not seeing much in Maccy's train, since it seems to be punishing sensible play, because he's being too vocal about. I don't want to prozelytize (sp?), but I mostly agree with his reasoning, and thank fuck Blend was busy today so we didn't have to read 15 more pages of "Khell must die"
HD feels like he's stepping up his game a bit due to pressure, but I don't really follow his conclusion on Sierg either (see above).
Mess played Day 1 eerily similar to Blend.His self-professed reason for sticking to the Khell train is "it was a Day 1 Khell train". Now he's gunning after Sierg, and I don't see a lot of reasons for that in his play. Especially the "low poster to boot" feels like a lazy accusation (considering he was asking if someone would actually read over Sierg's posts to see if there's content).
There's also the fact that Khell stubbornly presents him as a symp, which would invalidate a lynch suggestion.
vote Messremb
Mess responds by switching to me:
Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:
I don't see any merit in a lynch of me although I will look back and see what the reasons are.
Remove Vote
Vote Khellendros
I am open for a switch to Mac
Andorion and Messremb climbing up the scum ladder. Bubba and Ment climbing down a little.